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Well so far there has been pretty much no leaks about the forthcoming iPhone and it makes the Oct 4th announcement so much more interesting.

Is this an early indication of how Tim Cook is going to run Apple? I find it very impressive that he has managed to plug all the leaks - I would not have thought it possible to be honest but unless anything appears in the next few days then the guy has started on a roll - lets see if he can keep it going and present an awesome product and find his own kind of way to present it.
 
Well Cook was head for the whole selling and retail of everything Apple so he does know how to run things. He's not a random person that became CEO so that may be the reason why there were no leaks.

But, then again, it's highly likely that the new iPhone was already in production before he became CEO.
 
Either that or he has nothing to announce ;)
This is what I'm afraid of. If all they're releasing is a spec bumped iPhone 4, they could be floating all over the place and we wouldn't notice. So much for a year and a half development.
 
This is what I'm afraid of. If all they're releasing is a spec bumped iPhone 4, they could be floating all over the place and we wouldn't notice. So much for a year and a half development.
Spec bumps can be no small feat of engineering...
 
I think Cook has been running things for quite a while now in reality; his performance on Oct 4th is what people will judge him by I feel - I don't think that's particularly fair but there you go.

Maybe he is not that kind of CEO and will make a brief intro and then let the dept heads show their stuff?
 
If the iPhone 5 truly is just a spec bump, I think this may be the first iPhone to not smash in sales. Not many people want a 3.5" screen anymore...
 
If the iPhone 5 truly is just a spec bump, I think this may be the first iPhone to not smash in sales. Not many people want a 3.5" screen anymore...

As much as we all may think that to be true, it's not. Remember the 3GS? Remember the fact that the i4 is still selling like hot cakes? The average consumer could care less about a slightly larger screen. Most want an iPhone, just so they can say they have an iPhone. We are the minority.
 
As much as we all may think that to be true, it's not. Remember the 3GS? Remember the fact that the i4 is still selling like hot cakes? The average consumer could care less about a slightly larger screen. Most want an iPhone, just so they can say they have an iPhone. We are the minority.

you mean "COULDN'T care less"? ;)
 
Even though Cook may only officially be CEO as of a month ago, in reality he's been acting as such for much, much longer since Jobs took leave. That said, even though he may be CEO, I'm pretty sure that Jobs is still the mastermind in control of all things iPhone.
 
Spec bumps can be no small feat of engineering...

True, But the exterior has already been engineered and they have all the data that goes along with it. Now it's a matter of making everything fit and making sure heat dissapates correctly. Still a feat none the less, but less then if it was a total new design where there really is no long term data.
 
As much as we all may think that to be true, it's not. Remember the 3GS? Remember the fact that the i4 is still selling like hot cakes? The average consumer could care less about a slightly larger screen. Most want an iPhone, just so they can say they have an iPhone. We are the minority.

Yes, But the only thing is if they leave the iP4 as the lower price point, and your assesment of the "average consumer" is correct, heres what happens...Average Joe walks up to the iPhone display and sees an iPhone 4 for $99 (or less). And right next to it the BRAND NEW iPhone 5 for $199 that looks identical to it. He sees something about RAM and A5 and has no clue. He turns them both on and see's that just about everything is exactly the same. If your theory is correct, the average consumer who wants an iPhone, just to have an iPhone is going to pick the cheaper one 9 out of 10 times. The minority (us) will be split. Some will get, some won't. And if speech recognition is going to be the big surprise, you can count me out. I'll upgrade to iOS 5 on my iP4 & iPad2 and wait until next year with no hard feelings. Especially if I can't tell who's got a 4 or a 5 when I'm out in the wild.

Rest assured that we will see a completely redesigned 5. I just can't wait to see it!!
 
Either that or he has nothing to announce ;)

This is what I'm afraid of.

Steve Jobs: "Oh crap, we're not going to be able to make an iPhone 5 that lives up to the hype, I'm outta here; Cook, take the wheel!"

I know that Apple doesn't want to leak the design like last time, but seriously, they need to leak something or else we have nothing at all to base rumors off of, which means discussions aren't exciting, which means many people aren't as excited for the announcement as would be if they'd leak anything worth speculating about.

Did what I just type make sense?
 
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ArtOfWarfare said:
Either that or he has nothing to announce ;)

This is what I'm afraid of.

Steve Jobs: "Oh crap, we're not going to be able to make an iPhone 5 that lives up to the hype, I'm outta here; Cook, take the wheel!"

I know that Apple doesn't want to leak the design like last time, but seriously, they need to leak something or else we have nothing at all to base rumors off of, which means discussions aren't exciting, which means many people aren't as excited for the announcement as would be if they'd leak anything worth speculating about.

Did what I just type make sense?

Not at all...the less leaks the more excitement, that's just obvious. Why would you get excited about something you know about already? The excitement comes from all the hype and anticipation of a completely new, amazing, highly secretive device that no one knows about until they announce it. There is far more excitement for this coming keynote.
 
If the iPhone 5 truly is just a spec bump, I think this may be the first iPhone to not smash in sales. Not many people want a 3.5" screen anymore...

That is a bunch of bananas. Plenty of people want a 3.5' screen. The iPhone 4 and 3GS are the best selling model of phone and in tech time they are ancient.

These forums do not represent the average consumer and just because the Android manufacturers are pushing monster screens that doe not mean that everyone has decided that is what they want.
 
That is a bunch of bananas. Plenty of people want a 3.5' screen. The iPhone 4 and 3GS are the best selling model of phone and in tech time they are ancient.

These forums do not represent the average consumer and just because the Android manufacturers are pushing monster screens that doe not mean that everyone has decided that is what they want.

I really don't agree. I have a 3gs. It's great. But when I go to the store and see 3 droids with beautiful 4 inch screens, and then I look at even an iPhone 4. Just that alone makes me want the droid.

Where I work we deploy droid phones to employees. While not all of them are great, there are some newer ones that don't have ginormous screens, but have much better and bigger screens then any current iPhone. It can be done in a pleasing way, which makes it still feel nice in your hand.

Just today I was working with an HTC Incredible 2. And if there was an iPhone with a screen that size. That is heaven. Go put your hands on one, and you'll see what I mean.
 
^ better screen resolution ? I doubt, once you go retina you never go back. So far, there isn't even one >4.0" display with HD resolution.

Personally, no retina = no buy.
 
Yes, But the only thing is if they leave the iP4 as the lower price point, and your assesment of the "average consumer" is correct, heres what happens...Average Joe walks up to the iPhone display and sees an iPhone 4 for $99 (or less). And right next to it the BRAND NEW iPhone 5 for $199 that looks identical to it. He sees something about RAM and A5 and has no clue. He turns them both on and see's that just about everything is exactly the same. If your theory is correct, the average consumer who wants an iPhone, just to have an iPhone is going to pick the cheaper one 9 out of 10 times. The minority (us) will be split. Some will get, some won't. And if speech recognition is going to be the big surprise, you can count me out. I'll upgrade to iOS 5 on my iP4 & iPad2 and wait until next year with no hard feelings. Especially if I can't tell who's got a 4 or a 5 when I'm out in the wild.

Rest assured that we will see a completely redesigned 5. I just can't wait to see it!!

Well that's just not correct at all.

What do you think the 3GS was to the 3G?

Exact same exterior, exact same design. The only differences were inside the phone. Yet, the 3GS sold just fine (and still is selling).

I'm not sure how you could forget that. Something tells me you're going to be disappointed when the announcement comes around.
 
People also forget that Tim Cook was acting as CEO for a while before his official appointment. This isn't changing anything yet except for the changes Apple wants you to see. I think that everything will run along pretty much the same.

This is what I'm afraid of.

Steve Jobs: "Oh crap, we're not going to be able to make an iPhone 5 that lives up to the hype, I'm outta here; Cook, take the wheel!"

I know that Apple doesn't want to leak the design like last time, but seriously, they need to leak something or else we have nothing at all to base rumors off of, which means discussions aren't exciting, which means many people aren't as excited for the announcement as would be if they'd leak anything worth speculating about.

Did what I just type make sense?

It made sense. But I remember before the iPad 2 we didn't get any physical case leaks of it until the night before the announcement when we got a picture if the actual device. I'm hoping we get a small leak before the iPhone 5 announcement as well.
 
I really don't agree. I have a 3gs. It's great. But when I go to the store and see 3 droids with beautiful 4 inch screens, and then I look at even an iPhone 4. Just that alone makes me want the droid.

Where I work we deploy droid phones to employees. While not all of them are great, there are some newer ones that don't have ginormous screens, but have much better and bigger screens then any current iPhone. It can be done in a pleasing way, which makes it still feel nice in your hand.

Just today I was working with an HTC Incredible 2. And if there was an iPhone with a screen that size. That is heaven. Go put your hands on one, and you'll see what I mean.

I am not disagreeing that a 4 inch screen would be nice. I personally would like to see a 4 inch screen (no larger though). But the sales numbers don't lie and the two most popular phone models have 3.5 inch screens so obviously most people are not too bothered by it.
 
I get the sense that most people who are chiding everyone for expecting a true, re-designed iPhone 5 are iPhone 4 owners who don't want to see a new phone out there that makes their purchase look old.
 
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