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Tim Cook and Other Tech Executives Meet with President Obama to Discuss Government Surveillance
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I would NOT, for one. If the US was able to protect privacy and liberty during the Cold War when the entire USSR was our foe, we should be able to handle the "threat" posed by a handful of cave dwelling moslems.
Government has it backwards. Citizens should have secrets and privacy protections, not government. A democracy should have open government
This government is neither representative nor democratic, and both major political parties are bad actors in this scenario.
I think that Snowden, Wikileaks, Assange, and Manning were heroic with their actions.
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So you're saying right now you're pissed about it since everything is currently safe, yet you would hop on board the "let the NSA spy to keep us safe from attacks" train once it's not safe right?
Already happened: "Earlier this year, a conservative activist and three others sued Apple among other companies and the U.S. government over alleged privacy violations resulting from supposed participation in the NSA’s PRISM intelligence program."
I read that guy's statement or whatever it was posted here a few weeks ago, and he was saying that we should launch "a second American revolution". "This Orwellian power grab can only be intended to blackmail the masses into submission in order that these modern day greedy tyrants achieve their corrupt ends."
Now THAT's a blowhard if I ever saw one.
Obama needs to ask what his principles were
Obama is having these meetings because he either forgot what he believed in or he's totally clueless. So instead, he'll ask a whole bunch of old white guys what he was supposed to be thinking.
Congratulations, Obama supporters. He's even outsourcing is opinions now.
Obama is having these meetings because he either forgot what he believed in or he's totally clueless. So instead, he'll ask a whole bunch of old white guys what he was supposed to be thinking.
Congratulations, Obama supporters. He's even outsourcing is opinions now.
Way to take a pre-1776 quote out of context to refer to being afraid of Facebook instead of opposing British rule.
Whatever, I'll wake up if they start messing with my digital stuff or that of someone I know. I'm pretty sure they would have already caught me for that movie I torrented if there was a threat. I know someone who used to pirate everything, even piracy software, and he never had any problems.
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Feel free not to comment since you don't care. These threads are for those of us that do care.
They should, at least because it's hurting American businesses by scaring off customers. Plus, I'll bet PRISM is a tax hog.
What you're doing legally today can become illegal tomorrow, and they have a permanent record of your activities to prosecute you with.
They'll use the information secretly and illegally, and use "parallel construction" to launder the information and skirt the prohibition against ex-post-facto laws. The DEA is already using NSA data and using parallel construction to hide that fact.
First of all, just because Benjamin Franklin said it doesn't make it true. Secondly, it's taken out of context anyway.
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I'm still waiting for this to happen, tinfoil hat removed and ready to take a hit in the head if it's coming.
We already had all the information we needed to stop 9/11, and it was obtained legally. It wasn't acted upon due to poor cooperation between agencies.
We don't need to give up all our rights to prevent terrorism.
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It's already happening.
Regardless of context or who said the words, I believe the principle behind the quote is still the same. That principle being the American people shouldn't trade our rights, liberties, and freedoms for promised security.
There has to be other ways for our country to be a secure nation without sifting through everyone's internet activity.
That's not my question at all in post #51.
"All" our rights is being a bit dramatic. Also, who says we don't need to give up our right to privacy to prevent terrorism? Just you and other people who aren't in power?
I guess there is just one way to go....
... back to Snow(den) Leopard!!
I assume Pres. Obama is also still on Mac OS X 10.6.
... back to Snow(den) Leopard!!
I assume Pres. Obama is also still on Mac OS X 10.6.
Give me your bank account number and your medical records. If you have nothing wrong or illegal, you shouldn't mind giving it up.
The government holds the "trump card"....."For Reasons of National Security".
The anti-constitution Patriot Act was rolled out for the sole purpose of turning the U.S. into a totalitarian state.
The goal is absolute control and monitoring of the population in order to quell all dissent.
All you ostriches should have been listening to us "conspiracy nuts" as while you have had your collective heads in a hole, everything we have been warning about...came true!!!
The anti-constitution Patriot Act was rolled out for the sole purpose of turning the U.S. into a totalitarian state.
The goal is absolute control and monitoring of the population in order to quell all dissent.
All you ostriches should have been listening to us "conspiracy nuts" as while you have had your collective heads in a hole, everything we have been warning about...came true!!!
And how did I refer to being afraid of Facebook?
My quote is "I have nothing to hide from people I trust" and I don't trust the government.
Benjamin Franklin's quote is out of context, sure, but I believe the principle behind the quote is still the same.