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Tim Cook at Goldman Sachs Conference: Retail Philosophy, Acquisitions, and the Apple Ecosystem

I fell asleep before the end. This was like Siri programmed to answer previously asked questions.
-"We make great products and we love only great products and no one does it better". OK.

So what about the next Macs ?
- Nobody cares, because the iPad is the huge next thing.

What about more affordable hardware in the pipeline?
- Sure, but only if it makes more customers buy more of our services.

Tim may be proud, but I didn't hear anything to keep me awake for the next 12 months.:(
 
SuperMatt said:
And apparently, neither did the jury, who gave a 1 billion dollar verdict to Apple. Or the judge, who upheld it, or basically every journalist who wrote about the trial. But apparently you're privy to some magic inside information.
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Please send me a link to any juror or statement from the judge which indicated that the 137 page document was the reason Apple won the verdict.

Don't bother. Whether the jury or judge considered the document important or not in coming to their conclusion does not mean that's what the document was.

Did you actually read the 137 pages? Do you understand how product design works? Do you understand competitive analysis?

If you actually read and parsed the document - I don't think you could say in clear conscience that it was a "137 page booklet "how to copy the iPhone"

And even if it was. That doesn't mean that Samsung is not an innovator. One document does not negate everything else a company has done.

I'm sure you don't think that one thing defines Apple and everything they have done. Or do you?
 
samcraig said:
But you're horribly wrong if you want to throw Samsung under the bus for not being innovative and being copy cats. Just wrong on so many levels. It takes "major denial of reality."
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I'd say that an impartial jury, when presented with all the facts, disagrees with you most heartily.
 
AncientGeek said:
Having been involved in an ungodly number of acquisitions, finding ones worth doing is very hard. Particularly large acquisitions: even for companies that do the analysis and do it well, the track record is pretty dismal. The ones statistically most likely to succeed are small and targeted, usually aligned on technologies and skills rather than products.
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Agreed. And Apple's board knows this. But that just leaves us back to the point of what to do with the money. If we know from history that acquisitions over , for example, $10 billion are usually failures, then it seems unlikely that Apple will find a useful way to spend the money it has. Not to mention the tidal wave of cash coming.
 
samcraig said:
No. For the most part - Apple takes existing products and improves upon them/makes them simple and easy to use. That's their magic.

They are innovators. For sure. But you're horribly wrong if you want to throw Samsung under the bus for not being innovative and being copy cats. Just wrong on so many levels. It takes "major denial of reality."
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http://www.google.com/?tbm=pts#hl=e...130&bih=702&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&cad=b


http://www.google.com/?tbm=pts#hl=e...130&bih=702&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&cad=b

About 7,440,000 results for Samsung.

About 2,250,000 results for Apple.
 
SuperMatt said:
I'd say that an impartial jury, when presented with all the facts, disagrees with you most heartily.
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They disagree with what? A statement they were never faced?

Copying the iPhone is not the same as stating a company isn't innovative. Are you intentionally being obtuse?
 
He is still living in the Steve Jobs legacy and will do for the next 2 years or so. Once the Jobs product influence has gone, then we will see how good a CEO he is.
 
MacRumors said:
Jony Ive is the top designer and now turning his attention to software.
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MacRumors said:
For years, people said 'Why don't you have a Mac under $500 or $1000 or whatever?' We worked on that for a long time and came up with the iPad.
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apple-win said:
It's not minor. 73 pages in Apple's forum, last post was Feb 11, 2013.

https://discussions.apple.com/message/21213090#21213090
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That still doesn't make a product "Crappy". You were agreeing with someone who was against Tim Cook saying that Apple doesn't make crappy products.

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samcraig said:
No. For the most part - Apple takes existing products and improves upon them/makes them simple and easy to use. That's their magic.

They are innovators. For sure. But you're horribly wrong if you want to throw Samsung under the bus for not being innovative and being copy cats. Just wrong on so many levels. It takes "major denial of reality."
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Uh NO, you're significantly underrating Apple's M.O. They take existing products THAT HAVEN'T HAD MUCH SUCCESS OR ANY AT ALL, find out what's wrong with them and completely turn around the idea and create a successful product that customers love.

Sammy and the others do what you say Apple does. They take an already successful product and add a few improvements and all of a sudden the Android fanatics act like it's the first time it's been done. ;)
 
samcraig said:
You still don't understand what that document was. At all. Wow.
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I understand it quite well. It exemplifies Samsung's modus operandi - wait for someone to take the risk and create a successful product, then analyse it to improve your own shortcomings.
 
HenryDJP said:
That still doesn't make a product "Crappy". You were agreeing with someone who was against Tim Cook saying that Apple doesn't make crappy products.

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Uh NO, you're significantly underrating Apple's M.O. They take existing products THAT HAVEN'T HAD MUCH SUCCESS OR ANY AT ALL, find out what's wrong with them and completely turn around the idea and create a successful product that customers love.
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Ohh you must mean like SIRI?
 
dmax35 said:
Samsung does make nice refrigerators and appliances.
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That's not where the majority of their patents come from. They have a lot of patents in wireless communications, semiconductor tech and chip design. iDevices and Macs still heavily rely on Samsung components.
 
@miniroll32
That wasn't Cook's exact comment re:cheaper computer. Seems like MR paraphrased what he said. Still I don't see a problem with what he said. I think a lot of people use cheaper PC's for web browsing, emailing, some gaming and light productive work. For the most part iPad meets those needs.
 
Rogifan said:
@miniroll32
That wasn't Cook's exact comment re:cheaper computer. Seems like MR paraphrased what he said. Still I don't see a problem with what he said. I think a lot of people use cheaper PC's for web browsing, emailing, some gaming and light productive work. For the most part iPad meets those needs.
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Most people use "cheaper computers" because that's all they can afford to buy.
 
gnasher729 said:
I understand it quite well. It exemplifies Samsung's modus operandi - wait for someone to take the risk and create a successful product, then analyse it to improve your own shortcomings.
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That's what I thought. You didn't fully understand the document. And you're making sweeping generalizations. Thanks for clarifying.
 
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