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Perhaps this is the investor side chiming in on how hard it is for a modern tech company to meet the expectations of customers. I'd say much of the customer side disagrees, but as long as their strategy brings in revenue then their needs are secondary.
 
Maybe, just maybe, bleeding edge tech is really difficult to manufacture at scale at first. Even if you are Apple.

But yeah, I guess you have your official numbers direct from Foxconn which paint a diffferent picture.

Considering if you check istocknow they are sold out nearly everywhere in the country either people are still camping out for earbuds and putting their schedule on pause completely or they're busy working and living and apple isn't delivering the goods by in large.

Your guess is as good or in this case as bad (maybe worse) as mine
 
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Nice leap of logic there. God forbid, somebody calls you out on pulling manufacturing numbers from your rear-end and they must be a sapless defender of everything Apple and TC.

This forum is utterly going down the drain.

I would assert you're unhinged in light of big events occurring today, including this report card. There's always been discourse without crying over a doomed MR.
 
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Apple CEO Tim Cook sold 30,000 shares of Apple stock this week, valued at $3.6 million based on the company's stock price of $120 at the time of the transactions, according to a U.S. Securities and Exchanges Commission disclosure. The shares were sold as scheduled pursuant to Cook's predetermined trading plan.

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Cook retains 1,009,809 company shares worth over $121 million based on Apple's current stock price following the sale.

A recent SEC filing revealed Cook was paid $8.7 million in 2016, which is $1.5 million less than he was paid in 2015. The decrease stems from Apple failing to meet its own target performance goals for both net sales and operating income in 2016, resulting in senior executives receiving only 89.5% of their cash incentives.

However, upon reaching his fifth anniversary as Apple CEO last year, Cook cashed in nearly $137 million in previously-awarded stock bonuses tied to both his tenure and Apple's performance under his leadership. Accordingly, after bonuses, Cook actually earned roughly $145 million last year, his biggest payout yet.

Yesterday, Apple analyst Neil Cybart opined that Cook and his inner circle are "doing what needs to be done in order to maintain Apple's relevancy," but he noted "there is room for improvement." He called out sporadic Mac and iPad updates, and slow progress with Siri, as two blemishes among others in its product strategy.In related shareholder news, the world's largest asset manager BlackRock has increased its stake in Apple and now holds 6.1% of outstanding shares in the company, up from 5.7% a year ago. Its 322,683,504 shares are valued at over $38.7 billion based on Apple's current stock price.

Article Link: Tim Cook Cashes in $3.6 Million in Stock as Respected Analyst Gives Him Passing Grades
How do you get an A on Productline when the entire company hinges on one product?
 
Here's how this should have read:

o Product Strategy: F
Mac Pro, Mac Mini, Macbook Pro disappointment, slow redesign of iPhone

o Product Pipeline/R&D: F?
I put a ? because not only is Apple secretive but their releases are so haphazard that it is now difficult to understand how these processes work.

o Operations: B-
o Marketing/Storytelling: C+
Stop using the word "magical" and the grade will get revised upward.

o Culture: C
Here's your $2 holiday t-shirt gift with an image of our enormous new corporate HQ.

o Public Face: B-
Meh.

o Financials: B
Ton of cash on hand etc. thanks to past success.
 
Nice gif, to substitute for an argument.

Sure I do, I'm glad you are a SJW in defense of everything related to Tim Cook, an every day man,

A lot of people in the world (I.e. All iPhone users) could 'demand' AirPods, but if Foxconn is only shipping/'supplying' 1000 units every few weeks, that's hardly success. That's a huge wedge between high demand and low supply, meanwhile the price isn't being adjusted accordingly in a traditional theoretical supply/demand chart, where they could be making hundreds and hundreds and capitalizing on the opportunity (i'm not faulting Apple for not price gauging and price discriminating, but this is what would follow in a closed model without taking into account any real world market factors), it is the static $159 it will be up until the day before gen2,

Especially coming from a supposed supply chain guru CEO, this is weak.

Same with 7+ in short supply, for months. And Touchbar macs,

And Smart Keyboard with 9.7 pro launch.

So, you don't understand what is going on in a supply chain/ production.
You know of no issues behind the scenes which may have been the cause of delays.

Responsible manufacturers will not intentionally ship bad product.

Making electronics (and debugging the production process) for new products is not as easy as cracking an egg into a pan.
 
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I think the analyst and I have different interpretations of what Product strategy and product pipeline mean.

And I'm sure you're far more qualified to make that call than someone who has spent years in their respective field and carries a high degree of knowledge of what defines these categories. Screw experts. Random internet guy knows better.
 
So, you don't understand what is going on in a supply chain/ production.
You know of no issues behind the scenes which may have been the because of delays.

Responsible manufacturers will not intentionally ship bad product.

Making electronics (and debugging the production process) for new products is not as easy as cracking an egg into a pan.

I'm not arguing they should ship a half baked product, not that apple isn't known to not do that,

Or that I understand the complications behind micro tech engineering and how that collides with limitations of manufacturing to scale. I don't get how people can put words in my mouth when this is written text haha

I'm just arguing that they're leaving money on the table more than creating artificial demand and hype by not having units in stock, if that's their intention which I'm not arguing either. The demand is where it is and they don't have airpods to put in people's ears at the expense of dipping in customers pockets. They are at a stand still. That's hardly a runaway success. And They shipped an iPhone without a headphone jack at start of q3 and barely got shipments out before end of q4 that were really
Meant to explain and justify the strategy behind omission of a headphone jack beyond "courage" . I had wireless beats too but I didn't appreciate using that garbage ambilical cable adapter for months as earbud use, and the thick part of smacking the screen and generally being "clutter" I didn't care for.

I'm also arguing he doesn't deserve any form of an A. Doubling down on puff piece.

There's no spin you can place on that, no matter who is to blame, etc. it was premature

Re read Walt mossberg's iphone 7 review. Not the hugest fan anymore but he nails it.
 
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People who say a computer is not 'Pro' usually aren't 'Pro' themselves :p

part of making everything thinner was part of making the battery life better. Does apple live in a bubble or do their employees not have access to an electrical outlet? I don't know of any pro user that isn't next to some sort of place to charge or keep charged up so why would we need better battery life?
 
So lets put it this way, if Apple was doing great things in the future, why is Tim Cook dumping stocks?

Also it is completely a conflict of interest to have a CEO allowed to trade stocks for a company. I mean there is no way that Tim Cook can't be aware of pending doom and gloom, or pending amazing things that would influence stock prices. His words often directly affect stock prices. Apple should have paid out Tim Cook for any past stocks he may have had prior to becoming CEO, or put those stocks on standby until the day he steps down as CEO.

It is incredibly fishy for this guy to cash near 140 million in stocks in the last few years.
 
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Considering if you check istocknow they are sold out nearly everywhere in the country either people are still camping out for earbuds and putting their schedule on pause completely or they're busy working and living and apple isn't delivering the goods by in large.

Your guess is as good or in this case as bad (maybe worse) as mine

The first paragraph literally isn't related to what I said? Also why are people camping out for something with which is out of stock? They're just out of stock bro.

I'm saying this is insane bleeding edge tech that is difficult to manufacture. Apple delayed the release once but knew they had to hit the holidays in some form. So they pushed out the low yield they had - which sold out immediately - whilst trying to sort out the manufacturing issue.

The AirPods are absolutely amazing by the way, listening on them right now. Every skeptic that has tried mine since has been blown away by the fit and sound. Once they can knock these out at an incredible rate... well, people will probably be buying less Beats. Let's say that.
 
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I don't really agree with the grades but it kind of funny that one of the lowest grades is for "Operations"

And if the worst grades are "Marketing" and "Operations" I would say that is one less analyst worth following.
Really funny since Tim went from operations to CEO
 
did anyone read this guy's (Neil Cybart) article? It provides commentary on each grade and their interpretation.

I'm not saying it's wrong or right (it's subjective), but it seems like people aren't even reading it and then asking something like "why did he grade it this way?" or "how do you get an A?"

Maybe click on the link, read the article, and then say why you agree/disagree.

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The first paragraph literally isn't related to what I said? Also why are people camping out for something with which is out of stock? They're just out of stock bro.

I'm saying this is insane bleeding edge tech that is difficult to manufacture. Apple delayed the release once but knew they had to hit the holidays in some form. So they pushed out the low yield they had - which sold out immediately - whilst trying to sort out the manufacturing issue.

The AirPods are absolutely amazing by the way, listening on them right now. Every skeptic that has tried mine since has been blown away by the fit and sound. Once they can knock these out at an incredible rate... well, people will probably be buying less Beats. Let's say that.

Yet again putting words in my mouth.

I'm not saying they aren't great. I too own a pair and swear by them already. On their own but especially compared to that clunky adapter situation.

BUT that's beside the point: They aren't available for people to buy largely.

I give up on explaining simple non nuanced statements.
 
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