Most people won't be chemists either, yet they persist in teaching chemistry. It's not the knowledge per se, but the intellectual development that comes from the process of acquiring that knowledge. Programming requires the development of a kind of logical thinking and problem solving.
If that was the case, it would do a lot of good for Apple's employees.
You're overlooking the 70% the minions get. For some that could be how they earn their living.
I agree. Learning to program teaches you how to rigorously analyze real-world problems. Without proper analysis your programs will be rubbish. And that will be embarrassingly obvious.
I'm reminded of a high profile Twitter user who doesn't demonstrate much in the way of logical thinking.
Why would he say that? An honorary degree is more honor than degree. You don't list it in the Education section of your resume.
at the end of my post should have been a pretty good clue it was in jest.
They're hired in the employees that walk the line between skilled and cheap. When living expenses are much lower in other countries, foreigners coming to the US for tech company work don't need the same salary as domestic, especially Bay Area, skilled workers. Example: someone raised in SF learns that $70k a year is the minimum they'd need to be in the area. Someone raised in (insert foreign Asian country here) would think $70k is more than their parents ever made and wouldn't even ask for anything more than $50k or less.Uuuum, Apple's a global company with global perspectives, mate.
Anyhow, this makes it no easier for me as a foreign national to get a job. Apple (like many other companies) is interested in the BEST employees. To get a head office job from overseas you're essentially gonna have to prove you're better than the best in Silicon Valley.
I know two friends who have worked for Apple:
1. Topped EVRYTHING at Australia's top uni and re-wrote the Darwin kernel for a heap of techie reasons during his honours (first class, Apple ended up implementing most of his changes that he submitted to the Darwin codebase... he essentially schooled all Apple's programmers on how to make a kernel, and wrote a paper on it that got him a uni medal).
2. An American guy with no uni degree. He was essentially in the right place at the right time because Apple bought out a startup that he was working for as a tester. He's freakishly talented BTW, his lack of a degree was more due to the fact his family were poor and he HAD to work to support his extended family from a young age. He's one of the most talented, driven and generous people I know...
That's why it's hard to get good jobs, there's a lot of super smart people who work their butts off!!!
Me? I'm an ex tech lead at a large non-American company and I'm now a relatively senior lawyer (doing IT contracts). I've done well for myself, but my CV has never made it past the initial screening stage for large US-based global IT companies. That's my dream... and if I want it, I'll have to keep working hard because it's REALLY competitive.
People need to get used to the fact that good companies want TALENT, not jobs for lazy locals. Don't blame hard-working foreign nationals for the competitive environment, let them motivate you to work harder. That's my motto... a lot of Aussies love to blame foreign nationals for the fact that they can't get their dream job. As Rev Run said about people who muck around then whinge that they're under-paid... THAT'S THE WAY IT IS...
No that's not true, there would have been many Mac users in the audience. It is a room full of university students and while the price means the market share in England likely isn't as much as the US, it doesn't mean it's non existent. Whether they are users of Type-C MacBooks or not is a different question.