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He could copy and steal ideas better than anyone in technology business - before claiming they were their own..
 
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He could copy and steal ideas better than anyone in technology business - before claiming they were their own..

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Steve Jobs stole that quote.

He wasn't such a success just by stealing. There was a little more going on.
 
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Steve Jobs still alive.

= No iPad Mini
= No iPad Pro
= Fake Leather Stitching on apps
= No Large Screen iPhones.

Glad we can now move on from one mans closed view on how things should be, and enjoy new things with a fresh open mind.
As great as some people are, when they get over controlling they kill new ideas from happening.
 
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I totally get you about MJ not being celebrated and a CEO of a tech company "apparently" is. Both were innovators of their craft. To be honest though, if you look outside of the tech world online you won't see any celebration of Jobs. I never hear my local news mention him on the anniversary of his death. While the movie may look promising I don't see many people outside of tech enthusiasts going to the theater to see it.

Like they didn't go see the Social Network (Facebook) Movie?
 
Loved his keynotes thru the years since the first iMac and especially when he demoed using a Mac using the first Intel based systems on OSX moving away from Power PC and only revealing it at the end of his presentation...and when his system froze demoing on OSX and he clicked a switch to the backup Mac he had to great applause from the crowd.... he had it covered all the way... he could read into the future no doubt....RIP Steve....thx for all the great times watching the entertaining keynotes on stage.
 
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I will be curious to see how the next couple of years pan out with the company, and new products. It was said at the time of Steve's death, that there was a 5-year pipeline of products in the works from which Steve had influenced. It is entirely possible that the iPhone 6, and subsequent speed bumps were in some kind of internal beta at Apple back when he passed away. Rumors of a watch, and larger iPad were also around when Steve was still leading the company, which him likely having given Ive, and other members of the team design goals for them all.

At this point, we have one more year within that window, and I am greatly curious to see how the following 5 years turn out, and hope that Tim, as well as the other great minds can keep the momentum, and quite possibly, accelerate even further.

I have been watching quite a few older Apple Keynotes recently, with some in my personal collection, and many available online now, it is interesting to see how different the keynotes felt with him leading them, than compared to now. Thankfully we still have Schiller introducing many of the products, however he lacks some of the Humor he once had when presenting alongside Jobs.

He could copy and steal ideas better than anyone in technology business - before claiming they were their own..

I think differently.

I recall reading old articles from which Steve himself said he saw the idea of the GUI at Xerox Park. He also stated that they got the idea for many features in OS X, iOS, and other products form competition, praised them, and voiced ways where he thought they did better.

Examples that come to mind.
- GUI and Mouse (credited Xerox in early articles)
- Fast User switching (Said Microsoft beat them to it)
- Cut copy Paste in iOs , Said others did that first (not directly crediting Android)
- Multitasking in iOS, also credited others, though I thought he didn't need to. He had an OS within an other product with multitasking, and could easily have credited his (Apple's) own Prior art on that.


So, I guess it just depends on the situation.
 
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Crazy to think the last phone Steve saw was the 4s.

I'm not sure he would have approved of some of the decisions apple have made since his passing.
 
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Crazy to think the last phone Steve saw was the 4s.

I'm not sure he would have approved of some of the decisions apple have made since his passing.

Like any company, they were likely developing the iPhone 5 at the time of his Death. Remember they need to get devices approved by FCC and other governing bodies before they can go into production, Many of those certifications take months, sometimes a year (Remember the delay between introduction and release of the original iPhone?) The development for Speed bumps for the 4S were likely done directly after (or during) the iPhone 4 release, with prototypes for the 5 likely already in the works, or completed by the time of his death.
 
Like they didn't go see the Social Network (Facebook) Movie?
Yeah and there have been 2 other movies about Jobs and neither of which were a smash hit at the box offices. And you can't compare FB to Apple in terms of the theater. The "SOCIAL NETWORK". That name alone relates to a lot of the younger crowd that connects a lot more with Mark Zuckerberg than they do with Steve Jobs, especially since much of the movie dates back to Job's life in the early days of Apple many years ago.
 
Steve Jobs still alive.

= No iPad Mini
= No iPad Pro
= Fake Leather Stitching on apps
= No Large Screen iPhones.

Glad we can now move on from one mans closed view on how things should be, and enjoy new things with a fresh open mind.
As great as some people are, when they get over controlling they kill new ideas from happening.

All an assumption. Steve was alive when the iPhone 5 was already being developed so he had already started giving in on his view of larger screens. And even the mini was probably something that was already in the early stages of planing.
 
Like any company, they were likely developing the iPhone 5 at the time of his Death. Remember they need to get devices approved by FCC and other governing bodies before they can go into production, Many of those certifications take months, sometimes a year (Remember the delay between introduction and release of the original iPhone?) The development for Speed bumps for the 4S were likely done directly after (or during) the iPhone 4 release, with prototypes for the 5 likely already in the works, or completed by the time of his death.

Oh I know I meant last phone he saw released to the public :).
 
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Crazy to think the last phone Steve saw was the 4s.

I'm not sure he would have approved of some of the decisions apple have made since his passing.

I feel that Steve would've gone forward with the bigger iPhones and iPad mini as it has been previously mentioned that he began to be more receptive to those ideas. Although, I feel that with Jobs, the largest iPhone would be the standard 6 display size at 4.7" as the Plus is fairly close to the size of an iPad Mini and

However, I couldn't see the iPad Pro and the Pencil happening under Jobs as it would cannibalize sales of the MacBook and Jobs was notoriously anti-stylus.

Speaking of MacBook, I believe everything would be the same except for the 2015 MacBook, I just couldn't imagine Steve Jobs wanting to release a half-assed and extremely limiting notebook.

On the software end, things would be the most different. Steve Jobs wouldn't have fired Scott Forstall so the overall quality of software wouldn't have declined the way it under Federighi and Ive.

Finally, the product lineup wouldn't be so bloated now. One of the first orders of business Jobs made upon his return to Apple was to streamline the lineup, but since Jobs passed away, it's back to being bloated again.
 
So he loved his family above all? IS that why he refused to acknowledge his own daughter and viewed her as a distraction from building his company? Is that why he put his own health at risk by using alternative herbal medication to treat his cancer, not accepting the medicine the doctor wanted him to take? If he was such a family man, why did he also work employees so hard they lost their own families?

**** off Cook. This is glorification.
 
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Exactly, Steve himself told Tim not to worry about what he would've done.

Steve trusted Tim to lead Apple into a new era. I have to say with things like Supplier Responsibility, opening up on new partnerships (IBM, Microsoft etc.) and creating products I still want more than their competitors he's doing a great job.

Steve said that to Tim because Steve knew that good artists copy, and great artists steal. Meaning the good artist can recognize greatness but the great artist can impart their own vision and make it theirs. The problem is that you have to replace Steve with a great artist which is nearly impossible. I sincerely hope that the leadership at Apple think daily about Steve's core values and ethos, what he would have done, and why he would have done them.
 
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"And, of course, the joy he brought his loved ones."

What a crock... He was a deadbeat dad to his first daughter Lisa, he claimed he was sterile. even after DNA proved he was the father he didn't care for her until much later.

So we should judge you on all the bad things you've done in your life then?
 
haha..

Good mac.

That's the thing... Apple only cares about people coming into the ecosystem.... They couldn't give a fig or a present to say "hey.... how can we make u still use Mac's " ?

That small cog in Tim's head is burning out..
 
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