I was looking at it also. Only downside for me is no SD card. Thats a plus for me on the GS3.
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Tim Cook Comments on 5-Inch Phone Market, Reiterates Commitment to Quality Over Size
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I was looking at it also. Only downside for me is no SD card. Thats a plus for me on the GS3.
no large screen size says Cook
HTC One here I come running. Arrogant Apple has decided to stay with is miserable 4 inch screen and really, really wants to be left behind in the smartphone race. I guess they have decided that the iWatch business will take over and thats where they are putting their tech wizards in development. Oh, well it was nice doing business with Apple through the years but I want innovation and I don't see it from them anymore.
HTC One here I come running. Arrogant Apple has decided to stay with is miserable 4 inch screen and really, really wants to be left behind in the smartphone race. I guess they have decided that the iWatch business will take over and thats where they are putting their tech wizards in development. Oh, well it was nice doing business with Apple through the years but I want innovation and I don't see it from them anymore.These sort of comments don't bother me at all. If anything it strongly suggests they are looking very closely at larger displays. It was an investors meeting, not a product unveiling. Did people expect any other sort of response?
The important thing for those looking for a larger device is Tim didn't actually deny one was in the pipeline. They just said they wouldn't compromise the display quality to do it. They could release a new phone next week and his statement wouldn't be a lie (assuming the display doesn't suck).
As is it, I doubt we will see it this year. If the past few things are to go by on, we'll get a 5S which brings improvements but keeps a similar form factor. I'm not sure I see them jumping off 4" after just moving from 3.5" where they were for a long time so suddenly either. It doesn't necessarily fill the void completely, but I think a retina iPad Mini is much more likely.
The important thing for those looking for a larger device is Tim didn't actually deny one was in the pipeline. They just said they wouldn't compromise the display quality to do it. They could release a new phone next week and his statement wouldn't be a lie (assuming the display doesn't suck).
As is it, I doubt we will see it this year. If the past few things are to go by on, we'll get a 5S which brings improvements but keeps a similar form factor. I'm not sure I see them jumping off 4" after just moving from 3.5" where they were for a long time so suddenly either. It doesn't necessarily fill the void completely, but I think a retina iPad Mini is much more likely.
Unfortunately for you I actually have...with the exception of the GS4. The fact that you think the Lumia 920 has a screen "that runs circles around the iP5" (educate yourself here), and that AMOLED "has never been more power-hungry than LCD" (again educate yourself here) tells me all i need to know.
Feel free to keep believing what you currently do.
However, i'm bored of this argument.
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Cook's Comments
Apple is just arrogant. They were game changers but they then sit back and slowly evolve while others surge forward. It is a recipe for disaster for them. You can't rest on your laurels forever. You can't continue to believe your own press and the fanboys. That huge advantage they got by being very good and first is now clearly waning. Making the iphone 5 longer but not otherwise bigger was a HUGE mistake. To prolong it may put them irretrievably behind. The comment about the bezel is right on. My S3 is only slightly larger than the iphone. It is all that wasted bezel space that makes most of the difference!
Apple is just arrogant. They were game changers but they then sit back and slowly evolve while others surge forward. It is a recipe for disaster for them. You can't rest on your laurels forever. You can't continue to believe your own press and the fanboys. That huge advantage they got by being very good and first is now clearly waning. Making the iphone 5 longer but not otherwise bigger was a HUGE mistake. To prolong it may put them irretrievably behind. The comment about the bezel is right on. My S3 is only slightly larger than the iphone. It is all that wasted bezel space that makes most of the difference!
Pay attention to the wording ...
Pay attention to the wording here ....
"We would not ship a larger display iPhone while these tradeoffs exist."
He didn't say they were not making a 5" display phone.
If they introduce a new chipset or screen technology that eliminates what they consider "tradeoffs", then they very well could have a 5" phone ready to go this fall.
Pay attention to the wording here ....
"We would not ship a larger display iPhone while these tradeoffs exist."
He didn't say they were not making a 5" display phone.
If they introduce a new chipset or screen technology that eliminates what they consider "tradeoffs", then they very well could have a 5" phone ready to go this fall.
Those Galaxy folks with the big ol' pizzabox cellphones slapped to the side of their heads always make me laugh.
The iPhone 5 is right where it needs to be.
The iPhone 5 is right where it needs to be.
Those Galaxy folks with the big ol' pizzabox cellphones slapped to the side of their heads always make me laugh.
The iPhone 5 is right where it needs to be.
comparing a galaxy phone to a pizza box? Bit of a stretch. But yeah the iphone is....cute
I'd prefer him to say "we're working on it, and will deliver soon, because this is not an insolvable problem".
I don't want a huge phone, but I do want a wider phone. Tall and thin just does not help because web sites and documents adjust their resolution to screen widths. The only alternative, operating the iPhone in landscape, is surprisingly difficult to do one-handed (and one-handed operation is supposedly why Apple have chosen the current dimension).
I just picked up the HTC One and while I was in the store I did a comparison with a number of phones including the iPhone. Bottom line, there is no comparison regarding the iPhone 5. The HTC has a much, much better screen and you wouldn't believe the sound that comes out of its speakers.
Tim Cook has contracted "Apple" disease in which their CEO's all come to believe that the outdated products they are producing are vastly superior to the new technology that's being released. Go back and take a look at similar statements made by Apple CEO's as the Apple II fell further and further behind the competition and the same goes with the Mac. Jobs insisted the Mac didn't need a number pad or arrow keys on the keyboard for spreadsheets and he continued to insist the tiny nine inch monitor was all anybody needed for business. In fact, he made similar comments that Cook made regarding the Mac's screen quality. And we all know what happened to Apple regarding the Apple II and Mac computers.
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Let me tell you what the larger high quality screen does. I use my phone for business and I often get email attachments in PDF that I have to read. With the iPhone and many others I had to constantly scroll back and forth and when you are reading a long document it becomes tedious very fast. With my HTC One I turn the phone sideways and no more scrolling. I can zoom the text as much as I need and the quality of the text is simply amazing.
Tim Cook has contracted "Apple" disease in which their CEO's all come to believe that the outdated products they are producing are vastly superior to the new technology that's being released. Go back and take a look at similar statements made by Apple CEO's as the Apple II fell further and further behind the competition and the same goes with the Mac. Jobs insisted the Mac didn't need a number pad or arrow keys on the keyboard for spreadsheets and he continued to insist the tiny nine inch monitor was all anybody needed for business. In fact, he made similar comments that Cook made regarding the Mac's screen quality. And we all know what happened to Apple regarding the Apple II and Mac computers.
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Let me tell you what the larger high quality screen does. I use my phone for business and I often get email attachments in PDF that I have to read. With the iPhone and many others I had to constantly scroll back and forth and when you are reading a long document it becomes tedious very fast. With my HTC One I turn the phone sideways and no more scrolling. I can zoom the text as much as I need and the quality of the text is simply amazing.
Agree with this point partially. The Galaxy S3 has unnecessarily large side bezels as well and could potentially be smaller. It also is not nearly as pretty to look at.
GS3 136.6mm × 70.6mm x 8.6mm
IP5 123.8mm x 58.6mm x 7.6mm
So about 1cm difference in height and length and 1 mm difference in depth.
After I put a case on my iPhone it's that much bigger anyway. I think apple is going to do a larger screen, but they are going make it look much better than Samsungs. Question is will my current phone last long enough for that release.
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They are getting thinner
And pico projector allow for big screens in tiny hardware size
wake up apple .. don't be microsoft
listen to customers give them what they want (like ipad mini is huge success )
WE NEED MAC PRO & bigger screen iphone..
otherwise HTC ONE is amazing ... i was waiting for iphone with bigger screen but i think i can jump with HTC One
listen to customers give them what they want (like ipad mini is huge success )
WE NEED MAC PRO & bigger screen iphone..
otherwise HTC ONE is amazing ... i was waiting for iphone with bigger screen but i think i can jump with HTC One
As others have mentioned, this is all due to Apple's IDIOTIC decision to make iOS so pixel dependent. It is 2x pixels or nothing, or add a few on top/bottom.
If iOS had encouraged app resolution independence from the beginning, Apple would not be in this position. They could crank out phones with whatever sizes they wanted.
But now they are going to have to break that habit. If they are waiting until they can double the retina pixels in both dimensions, then they are going to start losing market-share. More and more every year.
If iOS had encouraged app resolution independence from the beginning, Apple would not be in this position. They could crank out phones with whatever sizes they wanted.
But now they are going to have to break that habit. If they are waiting until they can double the retina pixels in both dimensions, then they are going to start losing market-share. More and more every year.
Try reading the entire article!
Not really, it means what it states, no larger display until a new display can be as of the same quality as the 4" Retina is now, and I agree. I like the screen on the Samsung Note II bc I do not see the wash out of colors, but on the SGIII I did see it, and I really like how crisp the Retina is, so if they have to switch OLED to get the 5" or whatever size, I prefer Retina in 4" or whatever they do.
This is spot on. Cook's argument about app compatibility is misleading, I think. OSX, Windows, Android etc. were designed with consideration of different screen sizes and resolutions in mind. You don't buy a PC game and not have the ability to play it because of your specific screen resolution any more than you do when you buy an Android app.
made the switch from an iphone4s,,, didn't like 5 screen, too narrow.
Love my retina mac, but iphone didn't evolve enough.
absolutely loving the htc one. screen is beautiful, it is comfortable to hold, bigger than i was expecting when it came (picked up developer edition) but it feels natural,thin and feels surprisingly light, i don't regret it for a second. adjusting to android didn't take too long and i like a lot of the little features which just make sense from an os standpoint.
I had jail broken my iphone4s, but integration never felt smooth enough with bitesms, crashed a ton.
no complaints.
good luck on what you choose,
cheers,
-ryan
edit: had iphone 3, 3gs, 4, 4s, it was time for a change.
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Those Galaxy folks with the big ol' pizzabox cellphones slapped to the side of their heads always make me laugh.
The iPhone 5 is right where it needs to be.
I rarely have my iPhone up to my ear. I use a bluetooth or my earbuds. I do not put it in my pocket. I have a clip.
There 'idiotic' idea is to ensure there is absolutely no (or at the very least minimise) fragmentation between devices. If you open up any app on any iPhone or iPod Touch it will look the same. No random pixels having to be filled or anything. You could also call it optimisation.
Just because you think it is an idiotic idea does not mean it is one.
My engineering office is 90% iPhone having previously been a range of different phones, they must be doing something right.
In before someone quotes Henry Ford.
He was forced by competition to offer other colors, other than black.
The larger competing phones with larger screens do not tempt me.
Possibly, I have been drinking too much of the Cupertino Koolaid, but pretty much like the whole ultrabook niche, the iPhone competition seems viable and interesting until I see it in-person and handle it. Then it disappoints. Tremendously. I share this, always wishing for competition to help keep prices in check and product development moving along.
For however many people would ditch the iPhone for a competing product with a larger screen, I wonder how many would come racing back if Apple offered an iPad Mini with mobile phone capability?
IMO, the phone is the device where Apple's eternal pursuit of thinner and lighter still makes sense. Thinner, lighter, smaller overall size are the improvements I would most like to see in future versions of the iPhone.
Possibly, I have been drinking too much of the Cupertino Koolaid, but pretty much like the whole ultrabook niche, the iPhone competition seems viable and interesting until I see it in-person and handle it. Then it disappoints. Tremendously. I share this, always wishing for competition to help keep prices in check and product development moving along.
For however many people would ditch the iPhone for a competing product with a larger screen, I wonder how many would come racing back if Apple offered an iPad Mini with mobile phone capability?
IMO, the phone is the device where Apple's eternal pursuit of thinner and lighter still makes sense. Thinner, lighter, smaller overall size are the improvements I would most like to see in future versions of the iPhone.