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The iPhone 5 isn't usable one handed. The controls are all at the top, and you can't reach there holding the phone normally without significant discomfort.

And what app compatibility? The one where, months and months after release, I still have dozens of apps that shift the keyboard a centimetre up, screwing up my muscle memory for typing?

Let me guess moving to a 5 inch 1080p screen would fix all these 'issues' for you? Or you actually want them to revert to 3.5 inches?

1. Resolution: Samsungs and HTCs have much higher resolution. Also 1080p.
2. Color quality, white balance: LG made screen can not be best
3. Reflectivity: What the hell is that?
4. power consumption: for better power consumption get AMOLED
5. Portability: what's the problem? Make two different sizes. You make iMac and then you make Air for "portability".
6. Compatibility of apps: that is the iOS problem. iOS is "pixel perfect" - it does not work with other sizes/resolutions. Android does.

Resolution-dependant iOS is actually the main problem Apple still does not make 5" iPhone. Apple smartphone is actually not that smart to run on different resolutions.

-After 768p you're basically a spec whore. 1080p brings negligible benefits
-AMOLED screens are inferior to LCDs in terms of power consumption/efficiency.
-LG made screens one of the best in industry
-Reflectivity means sunlight legibility.
 
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Let me guess moving to. 5 inch 1080p screen would fix all these 'issues' for you? Or you actually want them to revert to 3.5 inches?

I want to revert to 3.5 inches.

If I could find a 3.5 inch Android phone with good specs I'd leave the platform over it.

However, I know that 3.5 inches isn't big enough for everyone, so I think they should dump 4 inches and have two models, one of 3.5 inches and one of 5 inches, with the same aspect ratio.
 
How long have you tried Android? If your going by what iPhone loyalists are saying here, judge for yourself. Plenty of what is said here is just nonsense IMO. They get UI is laggy...that's nonsense...I'm using it now as I type and its great. If you simply prefer iOS, more power to you then. Just saying plenty of talk here is by people who have no experience with Android. By experience I'm talking using Jelly Bean for more than 5 minutes.

yep, and if you install Go Launcher or Apex you can make it even nicer or even more iPhone-ish if you like. It IS about the bigger screen - for me it is anyways; makes viewing web pages a lot easier on my eyes.

Honestly, the HTC One looks more like an Apple product than the iPhone 5 does. And no I do not own an HTC One.
 
6. Compatibility of apps: that is the iOS problem. iOS is "pixel perfect" - it does not work with other sizes/resolutions. Android does.

Resolution-dependant iOS is actually the main problem Apple still does not make 5" iPhone. Apple smartphone is actually not that smart to run on different resolutions.

Just curious... how does Android handle different aspect ratios?

There are a few of them... 15:9, 16:9, 16:10

Does artwork stretch to fit? Or do Android developers have to make different background images for the myriad of devices?

And with 1920x1080 Android phones appearing on the market... do apps have artwork in the highest resolution possible and then scale down for older devices?

I understand resolution independence... but graphics are made of a certain number of pixels.
 
I like my iPhone 5, but I think it's a load of marketing garbage that its screen is "the perfect size." I prefer iOS and am therefore sticking to it, but I think 4.5-4.7" is the sweet spot for a phone, having tried out some other screen sizes last time I was at Verizon. They felt more comfortable for me, maybe because I have big hands.

However, I do think the 5" screens were going overboard. They just felt uncomfortable.

You're definitely in the minority. Our company just got new Android phones with 4.7" displays and the overwhelming consensus by both men and women was that the phone is too big. In fact, many of us were disappointed that we had to lug this huge phone around.

That said, I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect size, considering everyone is built differently. But I do think the iPhone hits the sweet spot for most people and Apple may be willing to forego the 10%-20% of users who would benefit from a larger display because the cost/benefit isn't there from a business perspective.
 
I want to revert to 3.5 inches.

If I could find a 3.5 inch Android phone with good specs I'd leave the platform over it.

However, I know that 3.5 inches isn't big enough for everyone, so I think they should dump 4 inches and have two models, one of 3.5 inches and one of 5 inches, with the same aspect ratio.

Fair enough
 
Going to stop you right there simply because if the phablet market was a 'fad', then why is every major phone manufacturer investing development time and big money in making 5" and bigger devices now? Because it is what the market and people want, it is not a fad. I don't want a Note size device but ask anyone with one and they will tell you they love the screen size.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that all of these mobile phone manufacturers don't chase fads? Especially considering nearly every mobile phone manufacturer besides Apple throws a tremendous amount of **** at the wall hoping something sticks long enough to make even the slightest profit? And most phone companies aren't making any money! Most consumer electronics companies are terrible at figuring out what consumers want! Look at how much money the TV manufacturers, many of which also make phones, throw at making 3D TVs, which very few people really care about in the grand scheme of things.

How many companies have essentially one product in a category that is as popular as the iPhone? Apple doesn't have all of the market, but they have a large, notable chunk of it, and nearly all of the profits, so I think it's fair to say that they're operating at a level of surgical precision in terms of understanding their market as opposed to nearly everyone else in the mobile phone game. And again, considering they're making the vast majority of the profits in the smartphone market, and if anything, continuing to gain marketshare from Android, I think they know what they're doing. And if a 5" iPhone was really that important to their market, I think we would've seen it before the iPad Mini, as the iPad had no real competition and was continuing to grow at an amazing pace.

Like I said, I think there is a market for 5" phones, but I think in the long run it will be a much smaller one than some think, and again, if it was really that important, I think we would've seen it already, especially considering we have the iPad Mini now. They didn't have competition from 7" devices because they were 7" devices, and again, they didn't have competition at all. Only reason 7" Android tablets sold at all was due to price. Apple put out a 7" tablet because it was a truly good idea, and they made no effort to really compete on price, and it's still killing the 7" market. Why? Again, because it's a good idea.

I'm not saying that a 5" iPhone would be a bad idea, and I do think it's coming. I'm just saying, I don't think it's going to be nearly as big of a deal as people think. I still wouldn't be surprised if Apple skips it, and 3-4 years from now, I don't think many people will remember, nor care.
 
I believe his answer says two things.

1. We aren't releasing a 5" iPhone this year.

2. We will at some point. Probably next year.

I think Apple screwed this up. They should have a 5" model ready for this fall. I've used 4.7" and 5" smartphones. It really is not drastically different than my iPhone 5.

This will really benefit HTC One and S4 sales.
 
The ps3 is a blu ray player
At this point streaming has mostly crap content so I use blu ray

I am well aware that PS3 and the Sony BDP-S1 (which I still have) were the first Blu-Ray players. My point was, people are watching a lot more Netflix on them than Blu-Ray or even DVD. And streaming is rougher for movies, sure, but it's a golden age for TV right now, and there's a whole of TV available streaming. And if you think most people are more passionate and concerned with movies than TV shows these days, I'd have to jokingly ask if you've had a conversation with, I don't know, anyone, in the last couple of years.
 
And then Apple releases 5'' iPhone 6 with 1280x1920 screen :eek:
What? I think it will be the best thing for them to do - 461 PPI and no complicated work for developers (just pixel doubling for old apps like they did with retina iPhones and iPads).

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I think the best product portfolio for Apple would be:
iPhone 6: 3.5'' screen, 640x960, 329 PPI
iPhone 6+: 5'' screen, 1280x1920, 461 PPI (best in the industry!)

And they can boast that 6+ will have much more pixels compared to HTCs and Samsungs with 1080x1920 screens.

EDIT2:
How about:
iPhone 6-: 3.5'' screen, 640x960, 329 PPI (budget model)
iPhone 6: 4'' screen, 640x1136, 326 PPI (mid-range model)
iPhone 6+: 5'' screen, 1280x1920, 461 PPI (best in the industry!)
 
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Just curious... how does Android handle different aspect ratios?

There are a few of them... 15:9, 16:9, 16:10

Does artwork stretch to fit? Or do Android developers have to make different background images for the myriad of devices?

And with 1920x1080 Android phones appearing on the market... do apps have artwork in the highest resolution possible and then scale down for older devices?

I understand resolution independence... but graphics are made of a certain number of pixels.

It's more difficult to handle the different screen sizes: 4.3, 4.6, 4.65, 4.7, 4.75, 4.8, 4.9, 5, 5.5, 6, etc. than it is the AR. The pixel differences are fairly simple to handle across the board especially when they have narrowed down to two common resolutions.

But as far as screen size, you wouldn't typically, for example, want your app to just be an enlarged version on a larger screen (or smaller on a smaller screen). A larger screen should be able to fit more content not just display things larger.
 
Are you seriously trying to suggest that all of these mobile phone manufacturers don't chase fads? Especially considering nearly every mobile phone manufacturer besides Apple throws a tremendous amount of **** at the wall hoping something sticks long enough to make even the slightest profit? And most phone companies aren't making any money! Most consumer electronics companies are terrible at figuring out what consumers want! Look at how much money the TV manufacturers, many of which also make phones, throw at making 3D TVs, which very few people really care about in the grand scheme of things.

How many companies have essentially one product in a category that is as popular as the iPhone? Apple doesn't have all of the market, but they have a large, notable chunk of it, and nearly all of the profits, so I think it's fair to say that they're operating at a level of surgical precision in terms of understanding their market as opposed to nearly everyone else in the mobile phone game. And again, considering they're making the vast majority of the profits in the smartphone market, and if anything, continuing to gain marketshare from Android, I think they know what they're doing. And if a 5" iPhone was really that important to their market, I think we would've seen it before the iPad Mini, as the iPad had no real competition and was continuing to grow at an amazing pace.

Like I said, I think there is a market for 5" phones, but I think in the long run it will be a much smaller one than some think, and again, if it was really that important, I think we would've seen it already, especially considering we have the iPad Mini now. They didn't have competition from 7" devices because they were 7" devices, and again, they didn't have competition at all. Only reason 7" Android tablets sold at all was due to price. Apple put out a 7" tablet because it was a truly good idea, and they made no effort to really compete on price, and it's still killing the 7" market. Why? Again, because it's a good idea.

I'm not saying that a 5" iPhone would be a bad idea, and I do think it's coming. I'm just saying, I don't think it's going to be nearly as big of a deal as people think. I still wouldn't be surprised if Apple skips it, and 3-4 years from now, I don't think many people will remember, nor care.

Apple are making profits because of the MASSIVE mark up they place on their products? They could sell half as many and still make billions, not forgetting the 30% cut from every app and in app purchase on any iOS device.
Apple cut out a 7" device and went to 8" because it didn't want to compete with the devices at that level again with it's massive mark up, Apple has simply done what it always dose, massively marks up a new device at a high level whilst it is under specced to allow them to introduce all these wonderful features like retina screen on the next model and gloat how it costs the same price, when in fact it's deliberate as they will still have a massive profit margin due to the original over inflated price.
If Apple made a 7" tablet and sold it for £300 against the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire, they would have been laughed out the room for the specs te iPad Mini has!

I'm also pretty sure these giant electronic company's spend a ton of time and resources in market research and they saw people wanted bigger devices. Apple is going to loose out, plenty have already ditched the iPhone for bigger screens. It is in no way a fad. company's do not waste money down the drain in such spectacular fashion hoping they make a profit, the research the crap out of it first.

I actually feel sorry for those who have unknowingly brought an inferior product in the iPad Mini because the next model is going to be so much better. If it isn't then your a mug to buy one, because compared to the full size iPad, the mini's specs are a joke especially for the price.
 
I've seen it from both sides. Had my iPhone 4, went to upgrade and tried the galaxy s3. I absolutely loved the screen, the old iPhone felt tiny, and the s3 didn't feel big in a pocket as it was thinner and lighter.

But after the S3 overheating, battery issues and generally not managing 12 hours of minimal use I took it back to be looked at, came back to old faithful. And you know, it's the right size. Yes, I'd like the 5 or 5s as its lighter and a bit thinner, but being able to actually use the iPhone with one hand beats these huge screens. Stretching from one end of the keyboard to the other i was constantly almost dropping the S3, making me use 2 hands. People with bigger hands may be ok, but for me it was getting annoying, plus the fact the battery is trying to power that size of screen makes it unusable as a phone.

So when the S3 comes back, it's being sold, I back with apple and I honestly don't want them to chase this rediculas screen size war. Let android lot do that, I mean Samsung has announced a 6" phone, totally stupid. What will happen is android will get excited about screen size, and then we'll see it calming down in a few years and coming back to something normal, so Apple should let them and not get involved.
 
Delusional. But what else would you expect from a guy who has destroyed 5 times more investor value in one year than Bernie Madoff stole in a lifetime?

If Apple thinks they can wish away the changing reality of the market, they (and their stockholders) are going to be in for very rude awakening. There is absoutely *nothing* I can do with my phone on a 4" screen that I can't do better on a 5" screen. 4.7" is the bare minimum these days - Apple is still trying to compete with phones that were obsolete two years ago.

What on earth do you do with your phone? Draw vectors in illustrator and edit photos with photoshop? It's a phone. Just two years ago people were using phones with barely an inch screen. Now you're complaining that you can't use one unless it's bigger than 4 inch? It's a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
 
As a mobile programmer, we kind of hate Android at times because we started as an iOS house, having very little issues and one screen setup. iPhone 5 started to see of some of the issues we started to deal with Android, but nothing too major. Usually we try to adopt a relative positioning setup, and avoid using graphics that must match a particular dimension.

It's very easy to quality control iOS, Android, it's a little difficult. It's getting better though.
 
Yea I'm bored. Gonna buy a S4 Saturday. Not getting rid of my iPhone 5. This will allow me to spend some time comparing the two.

Cool! I would love to read your comparison. I have an iPhone 4. I've been trying to hold off, replacing it until Apple has a bigger screen than they do now. I'm very interested to see what you think when you have them both. Thanks.
 
I don't get the one phone fits all model that Apple uses for the iPhone. Even Ferrari, a brand significantly more prestigious than Apple or anything else offers multiple models. Why not offer the a Phone with the current iPhone display and one bigger for people with taste for larger display?
I mean the iPad has multiple displays, so do the iMacs, Macbook Pro's and Macbook Airs.
 
I want an iPhone Nano not an iPhone PLUS

I want my iPhone to be the same size as the new iPod Nano. For me, I want smaller. I want it to easily fit in my pocket and not be a nuisance. I bought the iPod Nano and instantly thought this is the perfect iPhone Nano. I have my iPad for everything else (notes, movies, web, etc).

Think about it... it makes more sense as a phone. Give me a 2.5" iPhone Nano. Make it super small and lightweight (same size as iPod Nano). Give it great battery life. Let me check my email, web, and text as well as use as a phone. I don't need anything else.
 
This means a 5" iPhone 6 is coming...

...as soon as they can make it light and portable enough. Screen quality on 5 inch phones is already good enough e.g. HTC One, and HTC one is fairly easy to hold (even if its not the lightest, its no heavier than iPhone 4S), and beautiful to look at (ok not as beautiful as iPhone 5, but still very good looking). So I'd say summer of 2014.
 
Lets hope apple makes a 5 inch iphone sooner rather than later. The size of the phone should be customizable just like memory, color, model, etc.
 
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