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If Apple really wanted to innovate, they should make adjustable sized iPhones and iPads. You could stretch it to make it bigger, push it together to make it smaller. And when you get home, it expands into a 65" 4K TV. That way everyone would be happy. :D And boy do I have it patented.
 
I don't understand the jump all the way to 5 inches. I don't want a 5 inch iPhone and I honestly believe that most people don't want that either. I would be ecstatic though with something in the 4.4 - 4.7 range (without making the phone a foot long). It's strange how much of a difference tenths of an inch make, but the 5 inch screen phones are bordering on ridiculous.

However, none of this size business will matter if they don't deliver on iOS7. I'll definitely keep my apple devices for the app/music market, but if iOS7 falls short, I think my phone may come from elsewhere.
 
So be it. HTC One, here I come. I'm looking for bigger screen, not narrower.

Enjoy your little red Beats logo on the back and giant bezel.

It's an ugly and confused looking phone IMO.

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let's put it this way, if "everybody" wanted a bigger screen, apple would be out of business, in fact, if everybody wanted a bigger screen, 50% of american verizon subscribers wouldn't opt for smaller iphones. Bigger screen isn't innovation.
 
So be it. HTC One, here I come. I'm looking for bigger screen, not narrower.

HTC One's screen is tiny, I need 7.9" or larger for my phone. Funny thing is, this is easy to pull off with a cellular iPad, but I guarantee you won't take that route. :rolleyes:
 
2013 will probably be the first year that major Android flagship smartphones with big screens will outsell the iPhone 5/5S. Wake up Apple...the world needs a second model iPhone with a larger screen or else...
 
Tim Cook failed. :mad:........ Everybody wants bigger screen smartphones.

Everyone accept for the 37.4 million iPhones they sold this quarter the most in the companies history!

Apple knows exactly what they are doing and provides an assortment of products if you like them you will purchase one if not find one you like somewhere else and disappear. If you were truly happy with your alternative device why would you waist your time on a discussion talking about Apple iPhones?

Lamborghini does not make a fuel efficient suv, so if thats what you want maybe you should shop a different brand rather than bash the company?
Apple makes what they want to sell and have been very successful at that.
They made 43.6 billion in revenue in one quarter! Outperforming every tech company. Of course there are people who want a 5 inch screen phone, last I looked there are many vendors who make them.Go buy one and quit whining.
Apple is doing what it has always done and that is to produce in its opinion high quality products. If you don't agree the beauty is you can go else where. I must call your attention even if one were to disagree that the there are better screens out there , I have yet to see a phone match the over all quality of the iPHone IMO.

Interesting I will often go to android forums and you never see posts from iPhone users describing how they are so glad they switched from Android to iPhone? even though 45% of iPhone purchase come from previous Android users. hmmm
 
It's more difficult to handle the different screen sizes: 4.3, 4.6, 4.65, 4.7, 4.75, 4.8, 4.9, 5, 5.5, 6, etc. than it is the AR. The pixel differences are fairly simple to handle across the board especially when they have narrowed down to two common resolutions.

But as far as screen size, you wouldn't typically, for example, want your app to just be an enlarged version on a larger screen (or smaller on a smaller screen). A larger screen should be able to fit more content not just display things larger.

Hmmmmm.... but isn't that exactly what happens?

If you have a 1920x1080 phone with a 5" screen and a 1280x720 phone with a 4.7" screen... apps would look the same except for the size.

Android apps don't change their layout depending on the size of the phone screen... i.e. you don't get 5 buttons in an app on one phone but only 4 buttons on another phone.

I was just asking how a developer makes their graphics look the best when you are dealing with 800x480 screens and 1920x1080 screens... or when you have a few different aspect ratios.

Something has to happen to all those pixels.
 
Yes the iPhone 5 is nothing compared to Samsung s3 and HTC
Who cares if the color is way off on the screen, or the battery last a good hour,
not to mention 90% of all mobile malware is on android, the rest on sybion and mobile windows. Trust me I used to have an iPhone 5 now i have 37 different android phones and they are all better and each runs its very own version of android. I should be running Apple instead of that Tim Cook because I know what people want!! Apple is doomed!
 

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Just curious... how does Android handle different aspect ratios?

There are a few of them... 15:9, 16:9, 16:10

Does artwork stretch to fit? Or do Android developers have to make different background images for the myriad of devices?

And with 1920x1080 Android phones appearing on the market... do apps have artwork in the highest resolution possible and then scale down for older devices?

I understand resolution independence... but graphics are made of a certain number of pixels.
I don't know exactly - I am not an Android engineer, but I have owned HTC Evo, Galaxy S2 ans S3. My wife has Note 2. I have never seen any layout issues nor any artifacts.

If I would design an OS I guess I would make all UI elements, buttons and icons vector based, so there no pixels and it can stretch to any resolution. And the layout with relative positioning, percentage based so the thing would reflow automatically - HTML "responsive" sites already fugured it out. As for background images, look, they stretch to a different resolution on Mac and Windows with no problems. Or they tile depending on use case. They may require providing couple different sizes for the background: not a big deal, again it was done on desktop 20 year ago.

Apple, on the other hand, rushed to the market with a dumbfone: the stupid "pixel perfect" UI, no copy/paste, etc. Now with gazillion apps out there they have to worry of "fragmentation".
 
Apple dominated the music business by providing iPods S, M, L, XL...Shuffle, Nano, Mini, Classic, Touch. I wish they would just approach both the iPhone and the iPad in the same manner (and the Mac too). Age, size, economic factors, work, leisure, culture, there are reasons that effect everyones need for devices, they are all different. They don't have to make 20 devices, but it took them 3 years to make an iPad mini!!! Not really sure why there development is so stunted.
 
The fact is when it comes to screen size it's personal preference and for that reason Apple absolutely needs to offer the choice to the consumer. It's ridiculous they haven't done it yet, they should have been first. Waiting just another month is too long ... The Fall, next year - crazy.

And he talks about waiting until they can make a high quality 5" screen, lol has he ever seen an iPad Mini's screen?

Something isn't right, new products taking too long, must have a lot of production problems or something? If people were hoping to gain confidence Apple is innovating for the future this call didn't do it.
 
I just see on news Apple profit dropping fast. They not having much time to get something to exciting apple buyers to get new iPhone. If they miss this time they could hit new low
 
Going to stop you right there simply because if the phablet market was a 'fad', then why is every major phone manufacturer investing development time and big money in making 5" and bigger devices now? Because it is what the market and people want, it is not a fad. I don't want a Note size device but ask anyone with one and they will tell you they love the screen size.



I want a 3.5" screen AND I was against the 4" size. Having an iphone 5 now for several months makes me wish I had the same device but with the exact same screen out of my iPhone 4 even more :(


I personally think the larger 5"+ phones are a fad. A fad doesn't have a time duration. Over in Australia 3D free to air came and went, about a year ago 3D tv we're all over the place. Now it's quietened down a lot, and really it's just the TV manufactures jumping to the next thing every 12 months to get people to keep buying gear. Actually, I see that market taking a cue from Apple! The big phones do well in Asia, in Sydney you see Asian girls that have a bag to put the phaplet in all over the place, so it has a market, but I think it will calm down. In the case of Samsung bring out 6" phones it's just a way to get a foothold in that certain market.
 
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Android over iOS, and T-Mobile over Verizon. Two steps down in quality in one day. See you when you come back.

I get .12MB/s d/l speed from Verizon in my area and dropped calls consistently. Do you honestly think I'm worried about the consistency or quality of service in this area that Tmo has? My girlfriend who lives with me has Tmo and her service is no worse than mine, and $40 a month cheaper for everything that I have. Step down? Don't think so.

iOS = stale. Android = nothing spectacular. Such a big step down there as well. You won't have to worry about me coming back in the cellular market, so this next glass of kool-aid for you is on me.

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Enjoy your little red Beats logo on the back and giant bezel.

Giant bezel? Have you compared an iPhone next to an HTC One side by side? Do so and then tell me which one has the bigger bezel...

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Thank you, come again.
 
Definitely ok with this. I don't really care for a 5 inch screen. It's not a feature. I don't want a giant phone I can't hold in one hand. Trying to keep inching in every single size imaginable just because Samsung and LG do it would be a mistake. What's next? Build a 6 inch iPhone?

If you want a bigger screen, go buy a tablet. Oh wait, you probably already have one. And a 10 inch tablet. And a laptop. And a desktop.

good for you. but there are a ton of people who want a bigger screen.

just because an iPhone with a 5" screen comes out, doesn't mean that you arrogant customers wouldn't be offered a 4" model.

apple will introduce a bigger phone just how there are multiple sizes for the iPad, Macbooks and iMacs.

and yes i'm calling you guys arrogant because it's all about you you you you you

"i don't want a 5" screen so apple better not release it"
"it won't benefit me"
"the current size is fine for my hands and who cares about other peoples needs"

BLAH BLAH ****ING BLAH. arrogance at its finest.
 
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