Tim Cook Confirms Apple Will Buy TSMC Chips Manufactured in Arizona

[GuruZac]

It’s a good start for sure. It’s also nice to see Apple moving or at least planning to move more and more production away from China.

As a side, I love that Elon-bashing somehow makes its way in to every thread. 🤡

 

[SSDGUY]

and along with it all the toxic pollution that will cause major health issues for the Arizona workers and people in the communities.

Right. That's what Chinese people are for.

 

[vikingjunior]

Photo op. Let's see it come to fruition without a heavy price tag. I'm sure the Union Representatives are planning there more as we speak.

 

[bobenhaus]

What a waste of resources, (Oil), the chips have to be shipped all the way to Asia, more pollution.🤔

It doesn't stop there, but I can't say what, it's political.

These things don’t take much space and are light

What a waste of resources, (Oil), the chips have to be shipped all the way to Asia, more pollution.🤔

It doesn't stop there, but I can't say what, it's political.

Invent teleportation and at that time the world will stop using oil. Unreal

 

[imelliam]

What a waste of resources, (Oil), the chips have to be shipped all the way to Asia, more pollution.🤔

It doesn't stop there, but I can't say what, it's political.

You're joking, right?

 

[davidf18]

What a waste of resources, (Oil), the chips have to be shipped all the way to Asia, more pollution.🤔

It doesn't stop there, but I can't say what, it's political.

Indeed, those computer chips are so very, very heavy! What were they thinking?

 

[goobot]

Shipping from Taiwan to Foxconn China uses much less, just saying.

You aren’t wrong but they are also already shipping stuff from the us like the glass.

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

Twitter will be just fine. I love Naysayers .

Either way these are not government tax dollars so each party can spend their money one what they want.

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

What a waste of resources, (Oil), the chips have to be shipped all the way to Asia, more pollution.🤔

It doesn't stop there, but I can't say what, it's political.

Like buying oil from other countries and shipping it to the US. Oil is a lot more heavy than chips are and therefore takes more energy to move. It all needs to be made in the US, the chips, the phones, the oil.

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

72% of an Elon Twitter. Much better use of money. Elon is a moronic teenager and Tim is the responsible dad. Hard to believe they're only 11 years apart.

Can we please just go one day without talking about twitter? I hoped it went out of business before Elon bought it and I still hope it does. It is the gutter of the internet and a drag on society.

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

Is Apple going to open a water company? What are the predicted effects of the ongoing drought?

Edit: Answered my own question

https://pr.tsmc.com/english/news/2977

Better job than this company...

Saudi firm has pumped Arizona groundwater for years without paying. Time to pony up

Arizona's State Land Department unlawfully allowed Fondomonte to pump unlimited amounts of groundwater at no cost. That must stop.

news.yahoo.com

 

[smorrissey]

Can't wait for the new prices (without the exploitaion discount).

 

[Glideslope]

Pretty sure the chips will be shipped by air.

I agree with this. Air Cargo growth is expanding rapidly. By 2024 there will be ample supply of freighters to ship this volume.

 

[SFjohn]

Excuse my ignorance but how many chips can they make out of a "wafer?"

Depends on the size of the chips. Small nm chips @ 14nm and below are made on 12” wafers. Currently with 14nm chips you can get ~500 on each wafer. So definitely more than that for Apple’s chips. 🧇

How many chips can be produced from one wafer?

Affected by the epidemic, terminal markets such as the Internet of Things and automotive electronics are in strong demand, and the global 8-inch wafer generation. The production capacity is full of capacity, the production capacity continues to be tight, and the

www.hqxtechnology.com

 

[gund1234]

$40B investment. That's a big one. Guess they plan to sell a lot of chips. 😀

Fabs are expensive, that's why there are handful of companies that own fabs.

 

[gund1234]

"unrivaled ingenuity of American workers" - Despite China being their preferred option until now.

China never made advanced chips, most chip manufacturers are outside china.

 

[gund1234]

I am glad to see the chips built in America. Arizona for TSMC and Intel, and Ohio for Intel. I hope many future Americans and others from around the world benefit from these announcements... in terms of recieving the rigorous technical schooling and training at the local high school and/or university, and then a job in semicondicutor manufacturing and/or design. Semiconductors are cool! So is operating system design!

Taiwan and China have massive industries built around high tech manufacturing... and I'm glad to see the USA and soon Europe get in on the action too.

USA is still second largest exporter of goods & services after China.
USA still has edge, just politicians need to get their act together and do what is good for USA.

 

[gund1234]

and along with it all the toxic pollution that will cause major health issues for the Arizona workers and people in the communities.

who's gonna make the chips then ?
we want computers, we want jobs but we don't want to do manufacturing ?
Intel had Fab in AZ for decades, they have fab in Portland OR, people seems to be happy, no complaints.

 

[gund1234]

Shipping from Taiwan to Foxconn China uses much less, just saying.

Why not Foxconn make chips inside iPhone assy plant, no shipping.
but that's not how supply chain works.

 

[gund1234]

Curious what kind of government subsidies/tax breaks are involved here.

Congress passed CHIPS act, $20B.

 

[gund1234]

I was about to say the same thing.

The entire South West is running out of water from what I hear, so we'll see how this plays out in the next couple of years.

let's invest in water infrastructure then.
Government's job is to create infrastructure.
we want jobs, we want computers, but we want China to make these for us ?

 

[gund1234]

Photo op. Let's see it come to fruition without a heavy price tag. I'm sure the Union Representatives are planning there more as we speak.

stop blaming unions, Intel had fabs in US for decades, they are making processors fine.

 

[Eriamjh1138@DAN]

Hopefully, this will work out better than Apple's attempt to get a Sapphire plant built in AZ.

 

[visualseed]

Water intensive manufacturing process in a state with no water

It doesn't need large amounts of continuous water. They recirculate it from storage tanks/pools. TSMC estimates that they will reclaim 67% of their needed water onsite with the remainder being recycled from renewable sources Phoenix has dedicated just for TSMC. The plant is more efficient and provided more jobs per gallon of water than local golf courses.

 

[firewood]

Shipping from Taiwan to Foxconn China uses much less, just saying.

Apple is reportedly moving a lot of their assembly from mainland China to India and Vietnam, etc.