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I used to be able to name most of Apple products under Steve Jobs. Apple would be so straight forward with their product offerings. With Tim Cook, I couldn't tell you how many iPhones or iPads there are.
remind me how many iPods were available in 2004/2005?
let’s count them.
iPod Mini
iPod Shuffle
iPod (4th Generation)
iPod Color
iPod Photo (4th generation with photo viewing capabilities)
iPod (U2 Special Edition)
HP iPod
and that’s all between January 2004 and January 2005.
and this doesn’t even get into how much of an absolute mess the MacBook line was in the late 2000s, where the MacBook was sometimes aluminum, and sometimes plastic, sometimes it was a MacBook and sometimes a MacBook Pro, and the smaller MacBook Pros were never updated at the same time as the bigger MacBook Pros…
 
While people say he is not visionary, Cook brought M Silicon chips to the world. It has been a CPU and GPU revolution. It is not a small step and Jobs never had overseen a creation of a new chip (in Jobs' era, all Apple CPU's have been produced either by Motorola or Intel). So, Cook has been doing implementing quite a vision.
A lot of people don’t realize that the A4 was technically not Apple‘s first modern Apple Silicon type chip. It was just a modified Samsung chip.
Apple’s first completely in house CPU wasn’t until the A6 in 2012, and they didn’t release their first completely in-house GPU until the A11 in 2017.
 
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Cook just signed off on it. It’s the hardworking hardware engineers, etc at Apple that brought M chips to life. All Tim did was tell us we’re going to love it and then had Craig tell us all about it.
that’s kind of what a CEO does.
Steve didn’t completely create the iPod by himself, he hired Tony Fadell to design it, and literally licensed the original software from a third-party company. and the product was only actually a product because of a recently introduced Toshiba hard drive.
this idea people have that Steve was just sitting in a room, having the entire vision of the iPhone in his head by 1985 is just so so silly and unrealistic.
 
I am not sure Apple has missed the AI boat, yet. IMHO, much of it is overhyped and a not ready for prime time player as of now. I've tried it to do some professional analysis of data and the results varied and far too often resulted in me think "Never mind..."

It will get better, and the winning companies, IMHO, will be the ones that avoid the hype and actually find ways to make it accurate and useful.



Let me guess: from MacRumors...
I asked about your experience, not about what you read on Mac Rumors.
 
- Failures in AI.
- Failed execution and investment with Apple Vision Pro.
- Anti-consumer subscription-based models.
- Bloated and unfocused product categories.
- Vaporware (AirPower and Apple Car).
- Unnecessary products (HomePod, anyone?).
AI - depends on when the bubble bursts. Currently it seems to be what the industry wants rather than what customers want.

Apple Vision Pro - does look like a flop. Basically reminds me of the Newton - in 10 years+ we'll be saying "wasn't it ahead of its time?" but at the moment the hardware is still to cumbersome to use for 8 hours straight in a work environment.

Subscription-based models: unfortunately, that seems to be the way the industry is going and Apple won't compete without it - unless customers suddenly learn their twelve times table. Unlike AI, punters seem to like it, and the economics of software subscriptions can be better for businesses. For software, the reality is that software needs ongoing maintenance (esp. in the modern security environment). There are people who paid $200-$300 one off for Logic Pro or FCPx 10 years ago and are still getting free updates with substantial new functionality - very nice, but hardly sustainable. Some people are taking the mickey with software subscriptions but where Apple have introduced them at something like $50/year for a large application that might have cost $200-$300 one off I don't think it is unreasonable. For things like music and video - I think the advent of on-demand streaming has changed the game, and subscribing to a large library makes perfect sense - I hope the option to buy and keep albums, videos etc. doesn't go away, but I think it's going to be for "favourites" rather than the main way of getting media.

Product categories - yeah, iPhone and iPad ranges are a mess - too much reliance on 'last year's model' as the budget option rather than actually designing new models for lower price points. Don't see much problem with the current Mac line up, though. Jobs' nice simple "product grids" are lauded as some sort of magical, universal fix all, but I think they mostly made sense for a company that was circling the drain financially and had to ruthlessly slash its operations. What Jobs did next was to completely tear up his own rules about focussing on Apple's strengths and go off on a complete tangent with the potty idea of launching a music player. Great example of "the point of rules is to make you think before breaking them!"

- Vapourware/Unnecessary products - He Who Makes No Mistakes Usually Makes Nothing. On the bad side of St. Jobs' score sheet I give you iPod HiFi, the G4 Cube, Apple Ping plus, if you'd asked punters in 2001, the widely derided iPod. Then, with things like the Apple Car and Vision Pro, who knows how many patents they've notched up which may turn to future cash cows. At the time, everybody seemed to think that by 2025 we'd be riding around in self-driving cars, telling them to "take us to a burger joint" and endowing a windfall on whoever got the ad revenue from McDonalds. I think the prospect of dead pedestrians and cars driving into the sea until self-driving software makes some sort of quantum leap put the brakes on that one.

Unfortunately, the destruction of the internet by AI, dangerously false AI news summaries and accumulating technical debt from impenetrable bug-ridden "vibe coding" is easier for managers and industry pundits to pull an Emperor's-new-clothes over.
 
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As far as making money, Cook has been great. But Apple is a technology company. Under Cook, it's barely true. He's done a lousy job. He was behind Siri, Apple Maps & the Apple car. The Apple watch is great. The Vision Pro is a proof of concept. He's always promising some "amazing things are coming". Where are they?
 
He is no Steve Jobs.

- Failures in AI.
- Failed execution and investment with Apple Vision Pro.
- Anti-consumer subscription-based models.
- Bloated and unfocused product categories.
- Vaporware (AirPower and Apple Car).
- Unnecessary products (HomePod, anyone?).
Jobs had quite a few failures in his time.
 
The thing is he missed the AI boat because he was fixated with his pet Vision Pro project.
So a double whammy.

No worries mate, and not a biggie... Almost everyone here has claimed (vociferously and multiple times) they'll immediately turn AI OFF as soon as it's on their iPhones and computers.
 
That's why a monopoly (or in Apple's case a duopoly) is so scary. I'm in dire need want to upgrade my phone, but my choices are one from Google, which I will never do, or one from Apple that doesn't fit my needs.

So I'll end up buying a product I don't want. It means less R&D for Apple, less innovation, and more streamlined supply chains.

I know you were being sarcastic, but it's really unfortunately true.
Good tech solves problems

The iPhone and App Store have solved literally millions of accessibility problems for people around the world.

You want the thrill of a new product. It starts with

“What problems do I have that need solving with new hardware?”
“A biometric implant that allows me to do everything on an iPhone but all in my head and retinas!”

Or

A time /space travelling device, we don’t actually have any problems that need solutions.
 
that’s kind of what a CEO does.
Steve didn’t completely create the iPod by himself, he hired Tony Fadell to design it, and literally licensed the original software from a third-party company. and the product was only actually a product because of a recently introduced Toshiba hard drive.
this idea people have that Steve was just sitting in a room, having the entire vision of the iPhone in his head by 1985 is just so so silly and unrealistic.

Spot-on. I'd also include iPhone as Apple had previously collaborated with Motorola (who pretty much invented cellular telephony) on the ROKR phone. And of course the Mac, after Jobs getting a tour of Xerox PARC's (Palo Alto Research Center) facility and seeing their computer with a graphical user interface and mouse (by Doug Engelbart at SRI).
 
Steve was a unique kind of greatness, something Apple needed for 4 of its first 5 stages (founding, pioneer, scully, stabilization & recovery, renaissance) but Steve knew what he was doing when he picked Tim, and Tim has been great.
 
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While I applaud Tim Cook for making Apple one of the most valuable companies, I do miss Steve Jobs. Steve was a much better showman during keynotes, and oversaw the introduction of several "Wow! factor" devices (iPods, iMacs, iPhones, and iPads). While Tim oversaw the introduction of major things (Swift, and Apple Silicon), these are mainly behind the scenes major innovations. Not much that really made me, and what I feel the world in general, say "Wow!"
 
While I applaud Tim Cook for making Apple one of the most valuable companies, I do miss Steve Jobs. Steve was a much better showman during keynotes, and oversaw the introduction of several "Wow! factor" devices (iPods, iMacs, iPhones, and iPads). While Tim oversaw the introduction of major things (Swift, and Apple Silicon), these are mainly behind the scenes major innovations. Not much that really made me, and what I feel the world in general, say "Wow!"

Yeah .. .agreed.

"One more thing" isn't very exciting when it's "tightened up the supply chain and shaved some margin on XYZ"
 
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He is no Steve Jobs.

- Failures in AI.
- Failed execution and investment with Apple Vision Pro.
- Anti-consumer subscription-based models.
- Bloated and unfocused product categories.
- Vaporware (AirPower and Apple Car).
- Unnecessary products (HomePod, anyone?).
Magic Mouse, you?
Yes, thank god he is no Steve Jobs, because Jobs failed at almost everything and was only lucky enough to be CEO, when hardware technology made a giant leap that lead to the iPhone.
By the way, my HomePod is 3rd important device behind my iPhone and work MacBook Pro.
 
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I asked about your experience, not about what you read on Mac Rumors.

I was not the OP, just making a sarcastic response as to where most people on MacRumors get their information...

Of course! Woz is the hands-on wizard of apple and jobs was the man that could sell you sand in the desert. That’s the difference between jobs and cook, cook doesn’t stir enthusiasm or belief in the products.

Considering Aple's growth trajectory, Cook is pretty good at selling sand in the desert as well...

While I applaud Tim Cook for making Apple one of the most valuable companies, I do miss Steve Jobs. Steve was a much better showman during keynotes, and oversaw the introduction of several "Wow! factor" devices (iPods, iMacs, iPhones, and iPads). While Tim oversaw the introduction of major things (Swift, and Apple Silicon), these are mainly behind the scenes major innovations. Not much that really made me, and what I feel the world in general, say "Wow!"

Jobs was certainly a unique showman and I think Cook rightly decided not to be Jobs ][ as Jobs' theatrical timing would be hard to replicate. Cook focuses on his strengths to drive Apple forward. Early failures don't preclude later successes either, as Job's proved with the Lisa which lead to the Mac. The VisionPro could yet morph into the next killer product as technology and AI get better...
 
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I am not sure Apple has missed the AI boat, yet. IMHO, much of it is overhyped and a not ready for prime time player as of now. I've tried it to do some professional analysis of data and the results varied and far too often resulted in me think "Never mind..."

It will get better, and the winning companies, IMHO, will be the ones that avoid the hype and actually find ways to make it accurate and useful.

Spot-on. Apple has a very ambitious plan. Starting with a $500 Billion investment for an AI server manufacturing facility in Texas. Apple-manufactured AI servers will (presumably) be distributed around the country and beyond.

All of the above takes time. Is Apple late to the game? I guess it depends on having inside knowledge about Apple's long term AI plans and what one's goals and expectations are. That it's likely different than other companies, I suspect it will be privacy/security focused - a huge plus if true. And very important for me.

I can wait. As far as others here... Don't worry... most everyone has said they'll immediately turn Apple AI off when it appears on their devices. No need to get upset about something you really don't want.
 
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He is no Steve Jobs.

- Failures in AI.
- Failed execution and investment with Apple Vision Pro.
- Anti-consumer subscription-based models.
- Bloated and unfocused product categories.
- Vaporware (AirPower and Apple Car).
- Unnecessary products (HomePod, anyone?).
Literally, the HomePod is one of my most essential devices in my daily life. It's almost always being used while I'm awake; from PS5 gaming, to nature sounds, to full-on party mode. We now need them to add Dolby Atmos FlexConnect, and it's a no-brainer.
 
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