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Well, they were originally against the stylus too, so... it's still possible.

Steve was against a stylus, they added the Apple Pencil after Tim took over the company. So if something happens to Tim whoever the next CEO is might make this a reality.

These aren't joke posts? Or do people seriously not see the difference in a device controlled and designed around a stylus on a resistive screen and an optional creative tool aimed at artists or students? Seriously...
 
There is no need to merge, but they really need to improve ios for ipad. The lack of a user accessible file system is unacceptable. All im asking for is a documents folder to which all apps would have direct access (without copying).
 
He may be against it NOW but there will come a day when Apple will have a device that is a desktop when you need it to be and a portable when you need it to be. They already have a patent for such a device.

Their progress in processor architecture will some day make this possible. So when the compromises are no longer there, Apple will launch such a device.
 
Steve was against a stylus, they added the Apple Pencil after Tim took over the company. So if something happens to Tim whoever the next CEO is might make this a reality.

Again, not true. Steve was clear about not wanting a user interface that used a stylus - he talked about shaving fingers down to points, etc. etc. He never had anything bad to say about using a Pencil as a pencil for drawing, which is what the Pencil is for. You don't use it to tap buttons and stuff like you did on every other OS that used a stylus in the past.
 
My Macbook and Ipad are definitely different machines. I love both for different reasons. But the Ipad won't even come close to being a laptop replacement for me unless it gets a mouse pad. And that would require some serious rewriting of the IOS code for a pointer on the Ipad screen I'd imagine.
 
Again, not true. Steve was clear about not wanting a user interface that used a stylus - he talked about shaving fingers down to points, etc. etc. He never had anything bad to say about using a Pencil as a pencil for drawing, which is what the Pencil is for. You don't use it to tap buttons and stuff like you did on every other OS that used a stylus in the past.
You make a good point here. But do you think Steve would approve of the Apple Pencil today?
 
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Well, they were originally against the stylus too, so... it's still possible.

Steve was against a stylus as a method of input, not as a drawing tool. Apple Pencil really isn't some sort of reversal on Apple's side.

As people have noted, there's a profit motive behind keeping them separate, but I imagine if we do get "convertibles" that bridge the gap then we'll get an iOS-powered iBook rather than a MacOS-based laptop with touch targets. From an engineering standpoint it's also easier to add pro features to iOS than it is to strip down MacOS and rebuild it for touch (look how long it too Microsoft to make that change with Windows 8-10, and it still exposes a bunch of touch-unfriendly windows and menus.)
 
I agree with Tim on this, I use both a Mac and an iPad Pro they are both great devices, merging them to create a hybrid type device (like the Surface) wouldn’t be a good idea, the Surface may be a full computer but it’s not a very good tablet.

For some people the iPad can replace their computer, for example my mum and dad both use iPad’s (my dad has my iPad Pro from 2015 and my mum has my old Air 2) and they don’t need a computer since the iPad can do what they need/want (ie Netflix, YouTube, sending email, web browsing and so on) therefore the iPad is there computer.

The Mac is a great computer I have both a 2012 iMac and a 2011 MacBook Pro, both have been great computers and have more than paid for themselves over the years.

If you want a tablet buy a tablet if you want a Mac buy a Mac there is nothing wrong with owning both like many people do already.
 
Glad to know Mac is not dead.

Again, not true. Steve was clear about not wanting a user interface that used a stylus - he talked about shaving fingers down to points, etc. etc. He never had anything bad to say about using a Pencil as a pencil for drawing, which is what the Pencil is for. You don't use it to tap buttons and stuff like you did on every other OS that used a stylus in the past.

Well, you can use it to do that. But it's not your only option.
 
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You make a good point here. But do you think Steve would approve of the Apple Pencil today?

I absolutely do. He'd love it. He loved art and the humanities, and that's what the pencil is for. You don't use it to navigate the interface, you don't use it as a substitute for your fingers to press controls too small for them. You use it to draw and paint. Every time he addressed styli he was talking about how they were used (poorly) in prior OS's, like PalmOS, windows, etc. etc.

I think he'd demand the if you flip it upside down it behave like an eraser, though :)
 
Completely agree. When people use thick and heavy Surface as a tablet you can clearly see the advantage of having two devices instead of a 2 in 1.
And in case you seen an advantage in that separation, you are free to choose. M$ offers the SurfaceBook to serve both at the same time, although you might as well get a Surface Pro and a Surface Laptop and keep both for separate occasions. So that's not the problem, the problem ist that Apple won't give us a choice.

That aside he should have just been honest and said: "Look folks, we need to sell both in order to keep our margins up. Which is also why we won't put an LTE modem into your MacBooks. We want and need you to buy the whole nine yards for a decent profit. Case closed."

I for one would have acknowledged honesty instead of hogwash.
 
They are moving towards that. One day when merging goes with no or little compromises, they will definitely do that.
To be honest I believe the major problem now is the incompatibility of apps across the 2 platforms, and Apple is working on that. Hardware is not that much a problem cause surface book is doing well besides ugly.
Once apps are compatible across the platforms, I believe Apple will move on.
 
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"create one unified hardware and software experience" he who says that has no idea what an operating system is. drink up and go home.
 
Then maybe he needs to stop pushing the iPad as a "computer". If he's adamant about keeping them apart, and they do have systematic benefits to themselves, then just stop with the nonsense of an iPad "What's a computer?" campaign. I use my iPad pro on the go and it has it's limitations that I wouldn't get on my MacBook, although, I love the versatility of my iPad Pro so it has its own benefits as well.

Aww I think it’s a misunderstanding of the definition on your part. Here to go!

http://origin-mwebserp.dictionary.com/browse/computer
 
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