Tim Cook Insists Merging Mac and iPad Would Result in Compromises

[viperGTS]

does the iPhone run on stylus? I like how people just take **** out of context in an attempt to drop an overused dead meme one-liner.
"hurr but the ipad pro and now the ipad.." stop. if you're drawing or similar creative works, would you like to sketch with your fat fingers? no? ok. And the stylus remains optional and the operating the ipads without stylus is perfectly fine.

To reiterate: when you design a mobile device and its operating system that *NEEDS* a stylus for the user operate it competently then thats a no. but the iOS and its devices are designed for your fatty fingers and thumb to work precisely so there you have it.
[doublepost=1524694889][/doublepost]If what they are trying to do is put create a space that lets the tablet fulfill its role to the fullest without the making itself or the Mac redundant then push the MacOS and its devices further in terms of performance or functionality. especially the devices. Make them A LOT faster, like start squeezing GTX xx60 tier GPUs in there. Start competing with max-q gaming laptop levels of performance if possible. Start justifying your price with performance. And we actually have space in our ****ing backpacks since 2012 for ****s sake, stop compromising speed for space just to impress the clueless normies in your investor panels. Give us ports! Compatibility! SPEED! AND x86 PROCESSORS. PLEASE. *insert MacMini joke here as I stare emptily at mine*
As for the tablet, its probably the best tablet experience out there. iOS 11 brought its full potential to bear and now with styluses and buttery fast processors etc we get it, tablets are cool. Now push the Mac and what a computer can do.

Oh man, I posted this as a joke. Love that this got so many people offended.

 

[iamtheonlyone4ever]

Zune

no is not zune I remember zune , shortly after I finished writing
I remember the name but I didn't edit my post to add the name
Microsoft surface book that was the one I forgot all about
so is Microsoft surface book and Microsoft surface pro
a rip off name of Mac book pro
Microsoft simply split the name book pro to surface
surface book
surface pro
not only that, they also copied many things
from the keynote, the way they show inside the computer
just about everything
except for the screen that you can unmounted but I thought about that like 10 years ago
when I had to remove broken laptop screens

 

[FeliApple]

I definitely agree. Both devices fulfill a need. It works, why change it?

 

[Bruzr]

Apple CEO Tim Cook remains against the idea of merging the Mac and iPad to create one unified hardware and software experience, according to a brief conversation he had at Apple's education event in Chicago last month.

"We don't believe in sort of watering down one for the other," said Cook, speaking with The Sydney Morning Herald's Peter Wells. "One of the reasons that both of them are incredible is because we pushed them to do what they do well. And if you begin to merge the two ... you begin to make trade offs and compromises."

"So maybe the company would be more efficient at the end of the day, but that's not what it's about," he added. "It's about giving people things that they can then use to help them change the world or express their passion or express their creativity. So this merger thing that some folks are fixated on, I don't think that's what users want."

Cook reiterated that he generally uses a Mac at work, and uses an iPad at home and for travel, but added "I use everything and I love everything."

Apple's boss also revealed that an Apple IIc, released in 1984, was his first computer. "I first used it for a project, as a senior in engineering school, making an inventory control program or for a rental business that was close by," said Cook, who majored in industrial engineering at Auburn University.

Cook's comments echo those he shared with the Irish Independent in 2015, when he said Apple is not interested in creating a "converged Mac and iPad."

"What that would wind up doing, or what we're worried would happen, is that neither experience would be as good as the customer wants. So we want to make the best tablet in the world and the best Mac in the world. And putting those two together would not achieve either. You'd begin to compromise in different ways."

While the Mac and iPad will remain distinct products, Apple has and will continue to bridge the gap between its desktop and mobile platforms. In 2014, for example, it introduced Continuity features like Handoff and Universal Clipboard that enable more seamless experiences across Mac, iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch.

Apple may go one step further in iOS 12 and macOS 10.14, as Bloomberg's Mark Gurman recently reported that developers will be able to design a single third-party app that works with both a touchscreen, and a mouse or trackpad, depending on whether it's running on an iPhone, iPad, or Mac, starting later this year.

Article Link: Tim Cook Insists Merging Mac and iPad Would Result in Compromises

[doublepost=1536610035][/doublepost]Obviously, the Loss of Profit in a Merge of an MacOS iPad and MacOS Laptop and Home Mac Lineup would be unspeakable...! And would eliminate the need of the Separation of iPad Portability, and the Serious Side of Apple MacOS Home Based Products. This would be a Great Sacrifice of their Bottom Line Product line in Whole of Their Computer Based Notoriety, and cheapens the whole Stigma of Apple. But, they have impressed most, but really done nothing to Please the People until they are good and ready, so We Should Not Hold Our Breath in this Issue. Hell, look how long it took to get USB C, Face Recognition, Wireless Charge, NFC. And still they can't Give us an iPhone with any Character, S.O.S, THEMES PLEASE....!! Then there is Abysmal Side of things.... Siri (Or Seree, or SIREEE, she can't get anything right it seems), Apple Maps, Horrendous iPhone Spell Check nor Fix iTunes long standing problem of song listing replication (Never been Acknowledged), simple things they ignore...and the list goes on. They have lost sight of that Fine Tuning that will really make the rest shine, and just spending too much time and effort on iPhone Clone Phones, and Gizmos, that really...we are tired of it..!! Airpods..?, we need RUBBER DUDES & a Leash>>! Not hard plastic...?? Hello..!!

 

[1050792]

Dude this thread is almost 5 months old...

 

[iop]

The thread is now a zombie.

 

[Vjosullivan]

Both devices fulfill a need. It works, why change it?

Because it could work a whole lot better if they were more closely aligned at the operating system level rather than just having apps than happen to be able to exchange data.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Zombie thread. This article is about hardware; like Tim states in the article, they’re not interested in making a converged Mac/iPad:

“We want to make the best tablet in the world and the best Mac in the world. And putting those two together would not achieve either.”

A year later, they do have the best iPad ever and the best Mac(s), too. The iPad is becoming even better with iPadOS, and developers will be able to target both platforms more easily with project Catalyst.

 

[DeepIn2U]

macOS and iOS are already quite close in term of functionality. iOS lacks a few UI things, like windowing, which could easily be implemented in touch (put one finger on the drag bar and the other on the window itself to resize), and mouse support, which should be almost trivial to add, for those things that actually call for a mouse.

But most iPad/iPhone users are not clamoring for mouse support or windowed views. A few are, and would like extras like Finder, Terminal and/or XCode/Swift. So, the sensible approach would be to draw macOS-like features down to the users that want them and make them available in the Pro models.

I mean, my cousin bought a nice MacBook which his mother destroyed by spilling liquid on it. You cannot do that to an iPad, because the keyboard is just the keyboard, not all the hardware. I find that an appealing feature. Notebooks are just not the best design because of that, and because you have to take the keyboard it comes with (unless you want to use a secondary keyboard, which defeats the portability).

This, I think, is where they will start the transition. Bring real pro functionality to the Pro users who genuinely want it and leave vanilla iOS where it is for most users. The two OSes are already so close that bringing them together in a sensible way, for those who yearn for that, should not be that much of a struggle.

LMAO!

There are over 50 million in the USA alone that are visually impaired to some level, another 40 million that are dexterity impaired or restricted to using a pointing stick for which Mouse support is critical. I’d say those numbers Don NOT fit in the “some” category.

iPads are NOT water resistant by any measure so don’t convince your friend to trust in your advice just cause because he keyboard is detachable.

 

[tigress666]

I'm very happy to hear that is his thoughts on it. I really don't want a compromised system for my desktop. I'm happy with them just making them synch really well together.

 

[Sydde]

LMAO!

There are over 50 million in the USA alone that are visually impaired to some level, another 40 million that are dexterity impaired or restricted to using a pointing stick for which Mouse support is critical. I’d say those numbers Don NOT fit in the “some” category.

I might be classified as visually impaired, since, I think, I am legally blind without my glasses.

iPads are NOT water resistant by any measure so don’t convince your friend to trust in your advice just cause because he keyboard is detachable.

Nonetheless, if you have a macbook on the desk and you spill your beverage on it, the liquid goes into the machine and can fry the mbd. If you have an iPad on the desk, set up with a keyboard like you would get from Apple, with the prop stand, spilling your beverage might result in the destruction of the keyboard, but all the other working hardware is up out of the way of the flood. Destroying and iPad in that way is significantly more difficult than destroying a notebook that way.