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Was anyone stopping you? You're allowed. Just don't expect us all to be grateful for your rather weak opinions.

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his opinions are not "weak" because they counter your own. Stop assuming just cause you think everything is fine and dandy in your bubble that everyone feels the same

The points raised about Apples current technological offerings are absolutely valid complaints about their technological offerings.

However, this "award" isn't based off that. its based on his CEOship. how well financially and succesfully they have done. And they are right. Despite the technical changes and limitations imposed on their users, that many do complain about, Apple is still dominant market position and able to continue selling these products (that are sometimes inferior to their previous year) and make record profits.

That's pretty damn succesfull. If anything, it's showing Cook to be a better CEO than Jobs :p

Jobs at least had new exciting and better products everytime he got up on stage. All cook has given us is "thinner" products. Many products with problems. Many product changes that make them slower / less options than before

And STILL he's managed to sell record profits worth.

Yup. I think he actually earned that award:cool:
 
It's extremely hard to take over after a major influential founding CEO leaves.

Examples:
* Walt Disney died. Disney floundered for 20 years.
* Bill Gates left. Balmer did a poor job where Microsoft isn't relevant anymore.
* Jim Henson died. The Muppets floundered for 15 years.

It's very hard to continue success.

While you bring up good points, I must point out that McDonalds would sell just as many cheeseburgers if their current CEO left and a new one took over the position, as long as the quality of those cheeseburgers did not decline.

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You can criticize whoever you want. But your criticism of Tim Cook is shallow, because you'd criticize him or whoever was CEO at Apple no matter who they are or what they did.

Not true. If iOS 8 wasn't problematic, or if iPhone 6 and 6+ didn't have its QA problems, I wouldn't criticize Cook as much.
 
Having lived through the first time Jobs left Apple, Scully and the lot afterwards... Tim Cook has be great. Sure we would love to see certain things.. software, hardware, but that has always been the case. Apple is in the best shape it has ever been, and Tim Cook has been nothing but the Best CEO.

Now give us a real desktop computer with desktop graphics. :)
 
Yosemite, -problematic
;)

I'm glad I haven't upgraded. In fact, I still somewhat regret upgrading to Mavericks. So many little quirks and annoyance here and there... so unlike my first OS X Jaguar. At that time, they boast about how OS X never crash. I also dislike many of the design changes.
 
Not true. If iOS 8 wasn't problematic, or if iPhone 6 and 6+ didn't have its QA problems, I wouldn't criticize Cook as much.

I'll take your word on that. I just think it's a matter of perception. The bending complaints have significantly decreased over time, and there are no other significant issues that plague a potentially large portion of users. Of course you have a few people complaining about things like dead pixels, "yellow" screens, and other various hardware defects, but those have been happening since the first iPhone. By and large, how many people are actually experiencing issues with the new iPhones?

And iOS 8 has had it's share of issues. But how many people are truly affected by them? MacRumors is where people go to get help and complain about problems. A quick Google search for any possible issue with an Apple product almost always reveals a link to a MacRumors thread that is relevant to that issue, so it's natural that people come here when they have problems. How many people, on the other hand, will register an account just to make a thread saying that everything is working fine for them? I'm not trying to downplay those that have issues, I'm just making the point that things probably aren't as dire as people around here like to make it seem.
 
Why do I get the uncomfortable suspicion that one of the reasons why he was awarded this was because he came out publically?

Because coming out publically as gay isn't exactly an award-winning achievement.

He's only CEO of the year because he came out as gay. :eek:

Affirmative action in action. If he hadn't officially come out this year he wouldn't even be on the short list.

Those goddamn gays and their privilege.
 
The number one complaint about Macs among the general population is that they're overpriced. Which I disagree with, but it's a very valid statement- we all make our own decisions about what our money is worth, and many people just don't need to buy a Mac to be satisfied with their computer.

Almost nobody cares about expandability, on the other hand. It's just a non-issue for most people, especially in the context of something like a "CEO of the Year award." Me personally, I like being able to add RAM and easily reconfigure internal storage options. But I don't represent the majority, by any means.

You may be right about iMac buyers but those who bought the Mini expected the upgradability to continue, not go back to the original soldered on crap. Why piss off thousands of customers for absolutely no reason? It cost Apple money to change the motherboard to the soldered on RAM, as if they went out of their way to be obnoxious.
Apple is a huge company with tons of money, there is no excuse for not trying to make all off their customers happy, especially no excuse to go out of their way to make a change they knew would make people angry.
Apple=Arrogance.
Always has but this was inexcusable, IMO

I dunno about you guys, I'm completely contempt with what I have and it does everything I need it to do. I don't need a Mac Mini so why should I care? I don't need the latest and great iPad, so why should I care? I don't need an Apple TV, so why do I care? iPhotos? Really, Buddy Louise? Grab Lightroom or something that'll actually make your photos look better. Yosemite is completely fine with no hiccups (except Spotlight...I wish they could return that back up to the upper right corner instead of searching right in the middle of the screen). Soldering RAM onto Macs? Big whoop, get over yourself. Yeah I was upset at first and then I was like,"who cares...my iMac does everything I need it to do from Logic Pro X to Final Cut Pro to Adobe After Effects to Lightroom to Photoshop to everything under the sun without any hiccups..."

Seriously, guys...as if complaining on a forum is going to make everything better. Do you ABSOLUTELY need the latest and greatest thing right now? Are you guys sooooooo upset that we don't have the latest Apple TV OR the latest iPad that we think ought to be so incredibly awesome at this point or that Apple isn't doing every single itty thing you guys want them to do? I'm going to assume that the ones complaining about this whole thing are the minority die-hard apple fans as oppose to the the vast majority of people that just want an iPhone just because or they want an iPad just because or an Apple TV just because. I don't they're REALLY disappointed with RAM being soldered on to the motherboard or that the new iPad Mini 3 was not much of an upgrade from last year. They just want it....just because haha!

Anyway, I'll let you guys vent and attack and all that jazz, but put yourself in the shoes of Tim Cook and accomplish everything he did this year...I betcha none of you guys could do that...because you're all here on this forum complaining, haha! Anyway, I'm done. NOW ATTACK!

You don't care about the Mini or those other computers so then it's OK?
I don't care about the iMac but I don't like the fact that Apple keeps neutering it to make it thinner.
I want Apple to put out the best product they can whether or not I want it.

Can you elaborate on this? Because my experience with Yosemite is that it's been the most stable OS X release i've used since Snow Leopard.

My Mini has gotten slower, safari crashes for the first time ever (literally), safari hangs on some websites, it looks like ass and even upgrading to 8Gb RAM from 4Gb (yes, I like to be able to upgrade my computer) did absolutely nothing for the performance-zero.

That IS APPLE since the 1980s.



Which company's CEO would you nominate?

I would nominate the CEO of Chipotle for going non GMO. Check the stock price increases.
 
Notes below

iPhone 6,+ win (agreed)
iPhone 6 plus +win (agreed)
applepay, +win (agreed)
iPad Air 2 +win (agreed)

iOS 8 -Fail (initially, but fixed)
Yosemite, -problematic (neutral, great! update but with some minor issues)
Mac Mini -fail (completely your opinion, what did you want a mac pro, or the PC parts-headless mac everyone waiting for.. ya no, not a fail. mac mini's are generally used for mini servers and for a client I bought 6 of them, so not a fail)
iCloud -fail (how so? I'd say this is a huge win, lots of improvements)
iCloud drive -fail (same as above, how so? this is huge and works GREAT!)
iPad Mini 3 -fail (sort of agree, would have been nice to have same specs as air 2)
No Apple TV updates -fail (again, matter of opinion. did you want some magical box that projects 4k? or what is currently missing that can "wow" the world?, 3d? hope you are kidding)
iPhotos (or lack thereof) -fail (agreed, the beta/dev beta is nice, but a bit slow)


big wins you missed for some reason:
iWatch - win
continuity - win
iMac 5k - come on, how'd you miss this one??

some fails you missed
updated TB display (even an incremental upgrade to use the newer LG panels would have been a win) - fail


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I'll take your word on that. I just think it's a matter of perception. The bending complaints have significantly decreased over time, and there are no other significant issues that plague a potentially large portion of users. Of course you have a few people complaining about things like dead pixels, "yellow" screens, and other various hardware defects, but those have been happening since the first iPhone. By and large, how many people are actually experiencing issues with the new iPhones?

And iOS 8 has had it's share of issues. But how many people are truly affected by them? MacRumors is where people go to get help and complain about problems. A quick Google search for any possible issue with an Apple product almost always reveals a link to a MacRumors thread that is relevant to that issue, so it's natural that people come here when they have problems. How many people, on the other hand, will register an account just to make a thread saying that everything is working fine for them? I'm not trying to downplay those that have issues, I'm just making the point that things probably aren't as dire as people around here like to make it seem.

It very well could be a matter of perception, you're correct. And yes, hardware defects are pretty much par for the course with technology nowadays.

My problem with all of that is Apple has touted themselves as being above all of that for years. They've touted themselves as being better than their competition, and having the best product that money can buy.

But strip away all of the glitz and glamour of genius PR, snazzy commercials, and an extremely thin and smooth outer carton, and Apple's products suffer from the same software bugs and hardware mishaps as any other major technology company.

So this is why I question Tim Cook being selected as CEO of the Year. It's not that he hasn't done a great job, I just honestly don't think he's necessarily done anything special that other CEO's haven't done.

Yes, Apple's profits are still through the roof, but that can just as easily be attributed to a beloved product and ecosystem, not necessarily a beloved CEO.
 
his opinions are not "weak" because they counter your own. Stop assuming just cause you think everything is fine and dandy in your bubble that everyone feels the same

The points raised about Apples current technological offerings are absolutely valid complaints about their technological offerings.

However, this "award" isn't based off that. its based on his CEOship. how well financially and succesfully they have done. And they are right. Despite the technical changes and limitations imposed on their users, that many do complain about, Apple is still dominant market position and able to continue selling these products (that are sometimes inferior to their previous year) and make record profits.

That's pretty damn succesfull. If anything, it's showing Cook to be a better CEO than Jobs :p

Jobs at least had new exciting and better products everytime he got up on stage. All cook has given us is "thinner" products. Many products with problems. Many product changes that make them slower / less options than before

And STILL he's managed to sell record profits worth.

Yup. I think he actually earned that award:cool:

No, sorry, his opinions are weak.

He thinks Yosemite is a "disaster" and that it's a problem that a low-end Mac is low-end. Those are weak opinions. Not because I don't agree with them, but just because they are weak. Yosemite has had minor hiccups and it's OK for a low-end Mac to be low-end.

Also, as you yourself point out, these criticisms aren't especially relevant to the topic of this thread: more weak.
 
I just went to CNN Money and no where did they mention Cook's sexuality. But they did mention the stock being up 40% this year. It's clear Cook coming out influenced the Financial Times decision but that doesn't appear to be the case with CNN.
 
Great job, Tim and apple. To think they were going to be bankrupt just two years ago.
 
I just went to CNN Money and no where did they mention Cook's sexuality. But they did mention the stock being up 40% this year. It's clear Cook coming out influenced the Financial Times decision but that doesn't appear to be the case with CNN.

I don't think CNN should or can mention anything about his sexuality. If he was a black CEO, you think it would have been OK to say, CEO of the year because he is black. As for 40%, yeah he is doing crazy good.
 
You may be right about iMac buyers but those who bought the Mini expected the upgradability to continue, not go back to the original soldered on crap. Why piss off thousands of customers for absolutely no reason? It cost Apple money to change the motherboard to the soldered on RAM, as if they went out of their way to be obnoxious.
Apple is a huge company with tons of money, there is no excuse for not trying to make all off their customers happy, especially no excuse to go out of their way to make a change they knew would make people angry.
Apple=Arrogance.
Always has but this was inexcusable, IMO

I don't know why Apple soldered the Mini RAM, especially seeing as it takes up about as much space as it would if it wasn't soldered. I mean, the AirPort card can be removed but not the RAM? Makes no sense.

On the other hand, there is no way they could ever try and keep every customer happy. The "tons of money" you mention would dwindle pretty quickly. I don't even think Apple could manage to make all the users on MacRumors happy- no matter how many billions they throw at the things people complain about here.

But yes, in the case of the Mac Mini, returning to removable RAM would be a simple solution to increasing goodwill.
 
This exemplifies how out of touch MacRumors users are with the rest of the world.

Keep them coming.

I've always said that the day Apple makes anything that the majority on this forum likes, then they're in real trouble.

"It's too thin!'
"It's too wide!"
"He's too gay!"
"They soldered a pizza to the motherboard!"
"They left out the RS-232 serial interface!"

Amazing that Apple makes any money at all, what with them doing the exact opposite of what the armchair CEOs round here want them to do.
:rolleyes:
 
iPhone 6,+ win
iPhone 6 plus +win
applepay, +win
iPad Air 2 +win

iOS 8 -Fail
Yosemite, -problematic
Mac Mini -fail
iCloud -fail
iCloud drive -fail
iPad Mini 3 -fail
No Apple TV updates -fail
iPhotos (or lack thereof) -fail

;)

if these are the criteria of Cook's nomination, its got to have more details than just "fail" or "win". Many of these "wins" have issues. Many of these "fails" have benefits.

iPhone 6 (and Plus) - Overall a victory. They're fantastic devices and a nice redesign and implementation by Apple. However, by releasing they did admit that they may have been wrong in the past about phone sizes. For a CEO that was adament about the phone size being "right" in the past, this seems like a flip flop

ApplePay - I'd chock this as straight up win. Only thing missing is that it's really only USA right now. So while its a win, being a very localized product, Idunno how well i'd apply this to "person of the year' if it only affects a single nation.

iPad Air 2 - not a win IMHO. a re-iterative upgrade on the AIR. the iPad AIR was a big win. the 2 is just more of the same. a luke warm win at most. Even though it's a fantastic product.

IOS8 - not a fail. But not a success. an OS iteration to fix a lot of problems of iOS7 and to include features that have been lacking from iOS for a while. A win in the sense it's a much better update than the last, but not enough that it dramatically changes the landscape of iOS and Apple

Yosemite - Success of moderate proportions. Some exciting new features. Some cool new graphics. Ultimately doesn't actually change the functionality much of OSx. mainly cosmetic. But unfortunately has a much larger hardware requirement than previous. IMHO, feels more like the "Vista" of OSx

Mac Mini - Fail. Complete, and utter fail. not even so much the lack of upgradability from soldered on features. But the decision to move backwards in performance was completely unjustifiable. it is a desktop computer (even if small one)> the Move from Mobile quad core parts to ultra mobile dual core parts was completely unjustified. it was a cost saving measure for Apple to increase profits and nothing more. Decreasing performance and releasing it as a "new upgraded computer" from previous is an embarassment. THEN toss in the fact it's all soldered together... yes, this computer is a failure.

iCloud was a failure for this year, not cause of the functionality, but because of the leaks and hacks that did occur. I'm pretty sure that Jeniffer Lawrence is not a big fan of Apple's cloud services anymore.

iPad Mini 3 - another useless iterative product. they took the Mini 2, added touchid, jacked the price by $100 and called it all new. This is an insult money grab and pure commercialism.

Apple Watch - Announced but not released. not a 2014 product. still not available. And despite their claims, and peddling it around the fashion industry, it's ugly, and doesn't actually do anything above and beyond the competition's smart watch offerings. We were expecting revolutionary product and got, more fo the same.

Apple TV: Put a fork in it. it's done. the hobby might as well die. They dont know if it's coming or going. They sign content deals for it, but wont release updated hardware to take advantage of newer tech. And the last aTV even saw a reduction in features and power.


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why does Tim Cook win?

Because despite all of that above. the misses. the moderate hits. The hate that Apple has had in the last year due to lawsuits, more patent disputes, tax cases and the like, he has STILL managed to run Apple into yet another insanely profitable year of growth.

we may be frustrated with the current offerings and updates, But he's still selling them despite the problems. And more importantly, those who select this award are those liekly who have profitted most from it, seeing that in the last year, Apple has increased their stock value 40%.
 
David Pyott, CEO of Allergen
Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Chairman of Solar City
James McNerney, CEO of Boeing

Isn't boeing going out of business and/or had really troubling times this year?

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I don't know why Apple soldered the Mini RAM, especially seeing as it takes up about as much space as it would if it wasn't soldered. I mean, the AirPort card can be removed but not the RAM? Makes no sense.

On the other hand, there is no way they could ever try and keep every customer happy. The "tons of money" you mention would dwindle pretty quickly. I don't even think Apple could manage to make all the users on MacRumors happy- no matter how many billions they throw at the things people complain about here.

But yes, in the case of the Mac Mini, returning to removable RAM would be a simple solution to increasing goodwill.

Having two sockets vs soldered is an INSANE amount of space difference. You are thinking they just take the chips and solder them on in the same size they are, just remove the sockets. The chips are flat against the board when they do that so the amount of space they are saving is actually kind of big.

Do you even see where the memory is on iFixIt? I'll give you a hint, the protruding chip is actually the SSD not the memory.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/VtXCAlQsarqilJtA.huge
 
Were did Apple innovate under Cook?

I like Apple, it's still above the others, but real innovation?
Apple Pay? Could have been done a long time ago.
Apple Watch? Please be serious :)
Bigger iPhone? Faster processors? Is that innovation?
Bigger tablet substituting laptop could be innovation, that too could have been already done...
I think Cook polished actual technologies, Jony Ive did some great design work, but innovation, man, that' a different thing.
And they were at the forefront of Music and they've let it go...
 
Is it coz he's gay? I can't see any other reason for giving him this award. Two new product launches in a whole year is just pathetic. Only reason the share price has gone up is coz he's wasted billions of dollars buying back their own shares. What a criminal waste of money in a world full of poverty and starvation. Happy Christmas Mr Cook you useless sack of ****.
Share went up because both product launches were runway hits.

Also you don't know what charity Cook supports, so please, don't judge. Some would argue that you buying overpriced apple gadgets is a terrible waste of money.
 
It very well could be a matter of perception, you're correct. And yes, hardware defects are pretty much par for the course with technology nowadays.

My problem with all of that is Apple has touted themselves as being above all of that for years. They've touted themselves as being better than their competition, and having the best product that money can buy.

But strip away all of the glitz and glamour of genius PR, snazzy commercials, and an extremely thin and smooth outer carton, and Apple's products suffer from the same software bugs and hardware mishaps as any other major technology company.

So this is why I question Tim Cook being selected as CEO of the Year. It's not that he hasn't done a great job, I just honestly don't think he's necessarily done anything special that other CEO's haven't done.

Yes, Apple's profits are still through the roof, but that can just as easily be attributed to a beloved product and ecosystem, not necessarily a beloved CEO.

You make very valid points, even if I don't quite agree with them.

Indeed, Apple's marketing is very strong. But at the end of the day, what's in the box needs to meet your personal expectations. For me, Apple products almost always meet those expectations. For you, they may not. And that's perfectly fine, because who am I to tell you what you should and shouldn't put up with? But even if your last paragraph is true, why are Apple products and the Apple ecosystem beloved? Marketing alone can't explain that, because you can only fool most people once. Yet Apple customers are often repeat customers. The simple explanation is that Apple products live up to most people's expectations.

Some people just appreciate the way Apple goes about doing what all the other companies do. It's not even that Apple always does things better, it's just that they do things differently. It's that difference that you either love or hate.
 
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