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Tim Cook on Health Records Privacy: 'People Will Look at This and Feel That They Can Trust Apple'

rbgaynor said:
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How have they forced you to use Bing? You can use Google Chrome with no issues on Windows 10, you can always go to www.google.com and search for anything, failing to see how you are being forced into it.
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When Windows 10S was first released they forced you to use Bing (and Edge):

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/04/windows_10_s_bing_edge/[/QUOTE]
10S maybe, but that was known before S was released. Basic Windows 10 we have used Firefox and google with no issues.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
As much snark as will come from this, I personally wouldn't rank another company higher than Apple for data privacy.

There are always mistakes, but at least they try to keep your data private and it's one of their company messages.

A lot of these other tech companies make no effort to pretend they care about your privacy.
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You a pay a premium for Apple products and privacy is one of the reasons. Jobs was stressing privacy for awhile before he died. I'd trust Apple before any other tech company.
 
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Kettil said:
In before the negative comments... Great job, Tim!

Oops, too late already :rolleyes:
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“In before the negative comments” is a snarky and, by extension, negative comment in itself. #irony

When it comes to data like that stored in health records, I don’t trust any tech company, Apple included, no matter what their execs say.
 
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cmaier said:
No it’s not. HIPAA determines when data can be intentionally disclosed and to whom. It does not determine that a company has to take the precautions that Apple takes to secure the data against attacks by third parties, etc. Apple goes beyond HIPAA.
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Arlo Timetraveler said:
You sound like a Facebook University graduate when talking about HIPAA (not spelled HIPPA). That is not what HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.) is for.
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Oh really so HHS dot gov forward slash HIPAA is wrong? You sound like the Facebook graduate.
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centauratlas said:
Just to be clear, HIPPA doesn't protect privacy, it just provides consequences if people don't do so and by that point the information is out the door.
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Way to spin it. This is from HHS, a government website.

"The HIPAA Privacy Rule for the first time creates national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other personal health information. It gives patients more control over their health information. It sets boundaries on the use and release of health records."
 
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rbgaynor said:
I don't beleive that is true at all, can you cite a source? Let's not forget that Microsoft has forced you to use Bing in some versions of Windows 10 without consequences.
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Google got fined $5 billion for forcing the use of browser and search engine.
 
cmaier said:
No it’s not. HIPAA determines when data can be intentionally disclosed and to whom. It does not determine that a company has to take the precautions that Apple takes to secure the data against attacks by third parties, etc. Apple goes beyond HIPAA.
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Please explain how Apple is outdoing HIPAA. My gf works in the healthcare industry, HIPAA is all about patient privacy and making sure records are secure.
 
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centauratlas said:
Just to be clear, HIPPA doesn't protect privacy, it just provides consequences if people don't do so and by that point the information is out the door.
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To be clear, no law ever prevents crime, they just provide consequences if people do criminal acts.
 
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Intellectua1 said:
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Oh really so HHS dot gov forward slash HIPAA is wrong? You sound like the Facebook graduate.
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Way to spin it. This is from HHS, a government website.

"The HIPAA Privacy Rule for the first time creates national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other personal health information. It gives patients more control over their health information. It sets boundaries on the use and release of health records."
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That is what it says. It also says what I posted above. The actual data security rules require a lot less than what apple does. See the following: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/f.../securityrule/securityrulepdf.pdf?language=es
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Intellectua1 said:
Please explain how Apple is outdoing HIPAA. My gf works in the healthcare industry, HIPAA is all about patient privacy and making sure records are secure.
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HIPAA, for example, does not require an on-device secure store isolated from the CPU address space. It does not state that records must be stored on-device and cannot be stored in a central cloud. It does not require any specific level of encryption, let alone the encryption apple uses. Etc. etc. Indeed, from the HHS FAQ:

In meeting standards that contain addressable implementation specifications, a covered entity will do one of the following for each addressable specification:

  1. Implement the addressable implementation specifications;
  2. Implement one or more alternative security measures to accomplish the same purpose;
  3. Not implement either an addressable implementation specification or an alternative
 
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Intellectua1 said:
"The HIPAA Privacy Rule for the first time creates national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other personal health information. It gives patients more control over their health information. It sets boundaries on the use and release of health records."
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What the government says and what the actual regulations say may not be aligned. Agencies do that all the time. Agency statements are like the preamble to the Constitution: they sound great, but they're not really legally binding and they may not do what they say. It's more like a goal statement.

HIPAA mandates that entities that handle health data need to adhere to a certain set of standards, and specifies penalties for certain kinds of violations. However, you can (and do) sign away many of those all the time when you blindly sign that HIPAA consent form. And HIPAA really doesn't set any controls over who you as a health company can share data with, as long as you specify that those entities are considered your business partners. To be honest, I don't remember if you even have to disclose that anywhere.

HIPAA's a good step, but it's a pretty low bar.
 
I'll bet this is a big reason why iphones are so expensive. It makes me wonder about buying a very expensive Pixel phone AND subsidizing Google's advertising model, seems to me they are double dipping.
 
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coolbreeze said:
Regarding the Health app data...we need a better way to access OUR data. It's currently locked up in a dinky phone app...we need a health portal like Garmin provides. Locking data into iOS is shady and unacceptable; it's shouldn't be a platform war casualty if you leave iOS...and the janky export process doesn't count.
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You can export your data to a zip file.

swingerofbirch said:
The Health app is a black hole.

I have over 20 GB of data in the Health app. My iPhone 7 is unbearably slow in loading it. It can't export it (Apple's tech support didn't even seem to know there was an export option). Each export creates a 22 byte zip file with no data in it. I've gone through the highest levels of AppleCare up to having engineers at Apple respond to me through AppleCare who tell me just to delete my data and start over. Unacceptable.

I want my data in the cloud, I want it accessible, and I want it to be there when I sign into a new device.

Yes, the data is private—even to me!
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With regard to the export function, 20GBs is a massive file to manipulate. Any computer would have issues handling files that size and I wouldn't be surprised if it was outside of the Health App's parameters.

Have you tried third party apps to explore your data? A quick search gave me QS Access. You can email the developer and see if they can handle very large files.
 
rbgaynor said:
10S maybe, but that was known before S was released. Basic Windows 10 we have used Firefox and google with no issues.
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As I said in my original post "some versions of Windows 10" - I'm still waiting for some proof that it was somehow illegal.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it was illegal but way back in this foggy brain there was something about not being able to actually use it.
FOUND IT: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-10-s-restrictions-more-than-apps/
 
No one cares about ultra-privacy other than a couple dozen people here.

Baymowe335 said:
As much snark as will come from this, I personally wouldn't rank another company higher than Apple for data privacy.

There are always mistakes, but at least they try to keep your data private and it's one of their company messages.

A lot of these other tech companies make no effort to pretend they care about your privacy.
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