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Maybe you should examine the charts a little closer. A decline of 1M units out of 74M is less than 10%, enough of a estimate to based on little facts, but the ASP was enough to send Apple to 1T. Selling the same amount of phones over 3 years when the price has gone up is, well magical.

Exactly, you prove my point of Apple greed. Since they are not selling more iPhones, then let's overcharge the heck out of the ones buying them...

A decline is a decline. even if they are 10 units. But even worse, this is happening in a strong economy.
 
Exactly, you prove my point of Apple greed. Since they are not selling more iPhones, then let's overcharge the heck out of the ones buying them...

A decline is a decline. even if they are 10 units. But even worse, this is happening in a strong economy.
Nope a decline is not a decline it’s a rounding error. And the world doesn’t know how many of each were sold. Basically the pattern has been the same for a few years. But the difference is Apple hit 1T.
 



At an event in Cupertino yesterday, Apple announced three new iPhone models: the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR. Prices for the iPhones start at $749 for the iPhone XR in 64GB, and increase to as much as $1,449 for the iPhone XS Max in 512GB, which represents Apple's most expensive iPhone to date.

2018-iphone-prices.jpg

Commenting on this price range in an interview with Nikkei today, Apple CEO Tim Cook said, "We want to serve everyone." Apple introduced the iPhone XR at a cheaper price point so that customers who wanted the advantages of the iPhone X line -- Face ID, an edge-to-edge screen -- could find them on a lower-cost iPhone.
Likewise, the iPhone XS Max represents Apple's biggest iPhone yet, and serves the customers who enjoyed the features of the 2017 iPhone X, but wished it came in a larger size.
Apple will also still sell the previous generation iPhone 7 and iPhone 8, at new lower prices. The iPhone 7 will now start at $449 in 32GB and increase to as much as $669 for the iPhone 7 Plus in 128GB. The iPhone 8 will start at $599 in 64GB and rise to $849 for the iPhone 8 Plus in 256GB.

Discussing the iPhone in general, Cook says that, "The role of the iPhone has become much larger in people's lives," and that will justify the price of the devices for many customers.

Those interested will be able to pre-order their iPhone XS or iPhone XS Max beginning tomorrow, September 14, and the smartphones will then launch on September 21 in over 30 countries and territories. The iPhone XR will go up for pre-order in about a month, on Friday, October 19, and then launch on October 26.

In addition to the iPhone, Apple yesterday also announced the Apple Watch Series 4 with a 30 percent larger display, thinner body, ECG reader, fall detection, and more. Similar to iPhone XS, Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders will go up on September 14 and the smartwatch will launch on September 21.

Article Link: Tim Cook on iPhone Prices: 'We Want to Serve Everyone'

"To Serve Everyone," it's... it's a CROOK BOOK!

Apple discontinued the last iPhone that had a headphone jack, effectively guaranteeing I will never buy another iPhone, and therefore, likely I will also never buy another Apple product. I'm actually looking FORWARD to leaving this stupid "ecosystem". It is NOT what it was hyped or cracked up to be. Not even close.

Know what... "To Serve Everyone," it's... it's a CROOK BOOK! is my new /. sig.
[doublepost=1537261167][/doublepost]Tim Cook: "We want to serve everyone!" unless they want an iPhone SE, or any iPhone with a headphone jack... or a MacMini that hasn't been meaningfully improved upon since the BUSH administration, or a MacPro that doesn't look just like a trashcan, or an iMac, or a clickwheel iPod, or the ability to upgrade ANYTHING at all, or a phone without that STUPID notch, or... etc.

Yeah. I'm pretty fed-up with Cook's and Apple's garbage.




At an event in Cupertino yesterday, Apple announced three new iPhone models: the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR. Prices for the iPhones start at $749 for the iPhone XR in 64GB, and increase to as much as $1,449 for the iPhone XS Max in 512GB, which represents Apple's most expensive iPhone to date.

2018-iphone-prices.jpg

Commenting on this price range in an interview with Nikkei today, Apple CEO Tim Cook said, "We want to serve everyone." Apple introduced the iPhone XR at a cheaper price point so that customers who wanted the advantages of the iPhone X line -- Face ID, an edge-to-edge screen -- could find them on a lower-cost iPhone.
Likewise, the iPhone XS Max represents Apple's biggest iPhone yet, and serves the customers who enjoyed the features of the 2017 iPhone X, but wished it came in a larger size.
Apple will also still sell the previous generation iPhone 7 and iPhone 8, at new lower prices. The iPhone 7 will now start at $449 in 32GB and increase to as much as $669 for the iPhone 7 Plus in 128GB. The iPhone 8 will start at $599 in 64GB and rise to $849 for the iPhone 8 Plus in 256GB.

Discussing the iPhone in general, Cook says that, "The role of the iPhone has become much larger in people's lives," and that will justify the price of the devices for many customers.

Those interested will be able to pre-order their iPhone XS or iPhone XS Max beginning tomorrow, September 14, and the smartphones will then launch on September 21 in over 30 countries and territories. The iPhone XR will go up for pre-order in about a month, on Friday, October 19, and then launch on October 26.

In addition to the iPhone, Apple yesterday also announced the Apple Watch Series 4 with a 30 percent larger display, thinner body, ECG reader, fall detection, and more. Similar to iPhone XS, Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders will go up on September 14 and the smartwatch will launch on September 21.

Article Link: Tim Cook on iPhone Prices: 'We Want to Serve Everyone'
 
I believe Im part of everyone.

I just want a small phone, with a small screen (it could be 1136x639, or 1200x675, or 1280x720 = 16:9), lighter, updated CPU (doesn't need to be the latest), better battery and water resistance (1 minute submerge) enough to protect the valuable equipment.
There could be a model. Call it iPhone SE 2 or something else.
But there's not.

So, I guess, from Tim Cook's statement that… I'm definitely not part of everybody.
And yet, I own a Mac, an iPhone, work in another Mac and recommended Apple products for over 20 years.
Since 2013, when I bought my working Mac, as time goes by, I've been changing my recommendations.

The new MacBook Pro 13"… doesn't serve everyone. The models without Touch Bar weren't update and the price remains the same, which means their more expensive.

Supposedly we'll see updates in MacMini… How pricey will they be? Will they keep selling the current models at the same price (which has never changed since their release, almost 4 years ago)?

Maybe to serve everyone is offering (I'll never get tired of saying this) yesterday's technology, at today's prices.
And do not want to be a part of that everyone.
 
This is the dream: a device you have with you all the time... and you just plug into a big screen on your desk.

And Samsung already does this with Galaxy S8/S9, Note8/Note9, and Tab S4

Not much is said about it, though. It's been over a year... and it barely gets a mention in reviews.

Again... it's a cool idea... but it kinda falls apart in practice.

Yes... you can plug your phone into a monitor/keyboard/mouse at work... but then you'd need another monitor/keyboard/mouse at home?

And what if you travel? Will you have to make sure there is a monitor/keyboard/mouse in your hotel room? And you'd still be chained to a desk in the hotel. No mobility.

So... maybe there would be a laptop-like "shell" to hook your phone into. Basically a laptop with a screen, trackpad and keyboard... minus the guts.

But at that point... why not just use a regular laptop? Forget all this docking nonsense.

I understand the idea is to combine devices. But, as of right now, they seem to be better off separated.

Of course phones keep getting faster and faster. But the amount of support hardware you'd need scattered around the globe will start to get excessive.
They can be connected to any HD tv you don’t even need a monitor.

Most hotel rooms will have a HD TV in.

With the note 9 you can connect directly with a usb c to hdmi cable to the display and the phone itself can be used as a trackpad to navigate the UI. So all you need now is the cable and a keyboard.
 
They can be connected to any HD tv you don’t even need a monitor.

Most hotel rooms will have a HD TV in.

With the note 9 you can connect directly with a usb c to hdmi cable to the display and the phone itself can be used as a trackpad to navigate the UI. So all you need now is the cable and a keyboard.

Then when you leave the hotel to go to your meeting which is the reason you're traveling in the first place... you'll have to bring your keyboard and use one of their TVs in their office?

And what if you just go somewhere for lunch or drinks to discuss business? Will you plug into the restaurant TV?

Or what if there is more than one person with one of these phones? How many TVs do conference rooms have? Will everyone get their own TV? :)

As I stated before... it's a cool idea in theory.

But I can think of a multitude of scenarios where the self-contained laptop is simply a better choice. The laptop is a complete mobile package.

I'm just imagining the look on employee faces when the IT department takes away their company-issued laptop and hands them a Galaxy Note. :p

You're right... you only need to bring a keyboard. But then you'll have to tie-up someone else's screen everywhere you go. That doesn't sound like the future of mobile computing.
 
"To Serve Everyone," it's... it's a CROOK BOOK!

Apple discontinued the last iPhone that had a headphone jack, effectively guaranteeing I will never buy another iPhone, and therefore, likely I will also never buy another Apple product. I'm actually looking FORWARD to leaving this stupid "ecosystem". It is NOT what it was hyped or cracked up to be. Not even close.

Know what... "To Serve Everyone," it's... it's a CROOK BOOK! is my new /. sig.
[doublepost=1537261167][/doublepost]Tim Cook: "We want to serve everyone!" unless they want an iPhone SE, or any iPhone with a headphone jack... or a MacMini that hasn't been meaningfully improved upon since the BUSH administration, or a MacPro that doesn't look just like a trashcan, or an iMac, or a clickwheel iPod, or the ability to upgrade ANYTHING at all, or a phone without that STUPID notch, or... etc.

Yeah. I'm pretty fed-up with Cook's and Apple's garbage.
Apple is not the only vendor that removed the headphone jack. But good luck with your android life. The word in the street it’s infinitely more flexible and Samsung actually has a headphone jack.
 
Did I say or even imply that the iPhone ships with bloatware? The focus of the exchange was on Android phones.

I don't understand why even mention that then? They're pretty much two OS/Phone types. So if you're saying Android doesn't have it, it implies iOS does.
 
Can you upload images selectively so that if you delete pictures on your device they stay in icloud? Because I sure couldn’t find a way to do that.
You probably cannot find it because it's not by design. I'm sure if I asked 10 other people I would get 10 other ways that they want to store and organize their photos too.

I think most people consider that a beneficial feature so that their iCloud accounts don't get clogged up with tons of photos that they never wanted. If they did want to save them permanently off the device, they could always upload them to Photos. At least that's what I do. And if they do delete them in iCloud and decide they did want them after all, they do have 40 days to recover them.
 
I don't understand why even mention that then? They're pretty much two OS/Phone types. So if you're saying Android doesn't have it, it implies iOS does.

Ill spell it out for you. Mainstream Android comes bloated with the OEM skins. Nokia, like Google, provide a clean and non bloated flavor of Android.
 
I may not like Cook or be happy with his price gouging policies, but I need to lay off any posts where Apple brass make a comment because it's always a trigger. I do not regret my first post in this thread, and this is utter bullcrap. What he said is the exact opposite of some people's situation.

I am slightly annoyed with myself, because now I feel the oooh shiny new Apple thing welling up inside. I'll wait though because my 7+ is working just fine.
 
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Apple isn’t serving everyone. What about the people who can only afford $50 or $100 dollars for a phone and want a new phone. Their options are limited.

While I do get what Tim is saying, if it was phrased as “we want to serve as many people as possible”, it would have come off much better.
 
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Apple isn’t serving everyone. What about the people who can only afford $50 or $100 dollars for a phone and want a new phone. Their options are limited.

While I do get what Tim is saying, if it was phrased as “we want to serve as many people as possible”, it would have come off much better.

Agreed. Tim is living in his own bubble where he thinks "everyone" spends $449 to $1,449 for a new phone.

He definitely could have phrased it better.

However... it should be well-known that Apple never caters to the ultra-budget market.

If you can only afford a $50 phone... Apple isn't for you.
If you can only afford a $100 tablet... Apple isn't for you.
If you can only afford a $500 laptop... Apple isn't for you.
And so on...

But yeah... him saying "everyone" just confuses his entire message.
 
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