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Really, what's with all these mobile payments, come on, just take out your credit/debit card and be done with that.
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Tim Cook on Mobile Payments: 'It's In Its Infancy'
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Hmmmm like??
Really, what's with all these mobile payments, come on, just take out your credit/debit card and be done with that.
I know that mobile payment is widely adopted in Japan and a number of other countries in Asia and Europe, but what's its adoption rate in the U.S.?
I'm fairly sure that's the reason why Apple doesn't support NFC payment on the iPhone.
I did it for the mets on Friday and will print out tickets next time
Passbook was too slow and I still had to print out a ticket stub
I don't think it's outdated to use cash or wear a wristwatch by any means.I thought I was the only one who still carries, and uses, cash.
But, then again, I still wear a watch...so I'm a complete troglodyte.
Maybe you'd think that if you spent all your time on this website and in Apple stores buying the very latest whatever they make...
Oh, well! I guess cash is still perfectly usable! I probably wouldn't get something like this because I don't even own a smartphone.
I'm not sure about adoption rates, but isn't it kind of a chicken or the egg thing? And Apple's passbook app is a waste right now. Completely useless.
No it's not. Just today, I used it for a flight boarding pass and to buy a Starbucks in the airport. I also use it for movie tickets. Yes it would be nice if more vendors supported it, but it's a step in the right direction.
If/when NFC adoption picks up - Apple can easily add NFC capabilities to Passbook, without much changes to the app.
Yes, mobile payment is nearly unheard-of on any operating systems in the US. The US is again behind.
Oh, and the technology behind mobile payments is still in its infancy. Everywhere.
Quick, dirty, and non-secure technologies like NFC are the proof.
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Passbook looks beautiful, works beautifully, and paves the way for Apple to disrupt the mobile payment industry, which is still in its infancy.
I'll be using it to check into AT&T Park to see the World Series Champion San Francisco Giants game tomorrow. How are your Marlins doing, just out of curiosity? Still 4 and 16?
Sure, but when was the last time Apple was the chicken?
It's not like adding NFC to the iPhone will make business owners rush to buy new equipment, train staff, etc. and drive adoption of NFC based mobile payment.
In Japan, you can now basically use NFC in bus‚ train‚ subway, cabs or to buy stuff from the vast majority of stores, but this is the result of a long term, concerted effort from transport companies, retail chains and all domestic handset manufacturers.
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Passbook uses antiquated scanning and payment technology. NFC is clearly a superior technology, and I'd much rather see vendors adopt this than worry about Passbook.
It's not "either or" proposition. Barcode scanning is widely accepted today. NFC is still a novelty with barely any vendors using it. If/when NFC matures, Apple can easily add it to Passbook. The foundation is already in place.
For one: transferring photos from your camera to your phone.
Two: Transfer data from phone to phone
Both of these examples can be achieved by merely touching both devices together.
This isn't a limited list, there are more examples.
Maybe in the States, but up north in Canada pay wave has been rolled out to a lot of stores / credit cards. For example, Paywave is available for Mastercard / Visa. Also more and more stores are adopting it for Interact ( debit card ) - we have Tim Hortons, Beer Store, LCBO, super markets - the list is growing.
Unfortunately I fear the rest of the world will be held up by the slow adoption in the states, for Apple devices.
Not to mention, Apple will want its 30% cut ( being slightly sarcastic ) which no one will agree to.
Not forward thinking:
Question: Instead of carrying around a smartphone, i.e,. iPhone, why doesn't everyone just carry around a dumb phone, PDA and dedicated MP3 player?
Answer: Its the convenience of one device. From a consumer company stand point - it sells more devices.
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I'm in the US and have a credit card with NFC. Every time I wave it over one of those terminals with the little NFC symbols, (a) it doesn't work, and (b) clerks look at me like I'm an idiot because they've never seen anyone do that, no doubt because of (a). Best Buy, Walgreens, CVS, Target, and McDonalds are all major chains which have these readers, and I've only ever had NFC actually work at McDonalds.
That having been said, Apple could put an NFC chip in the iPhone just to prime the pump (as it were). It's not like an NFC read/write chip would significantly add to the BOM (even if it does add to design). It would be less embarrassing debuting integrated NFC hardware--that doesn't work anywhere in the US--than it was when they debuted Passbook. I know some people use Passbook but I haven't found a use for it yet, even though I really want it to manage some of my loyalty cards...
If Apple and Samsung were to have NFC in their latest phones, it would represent a nascent market just waiting to disrupt slow-moving credit card companies.
I understand all about planned obsolescence and not wanting to release "incomplete" features (again ignoring Passbook), but it seems like NFC would be just as easy to integrate as GPS or the accelerometer. Give developers an API and let them figure out what to do with the thing.
That having been said, Apple could put an NFC chip in the iPhone just to prime the pump (as it were). It's not like an NFC read/write chip would significantly add to the BOM (even if it does add to design). It would be less embarrassing debuting integrated NFC hardware--that doesn't work anywhere in the US--than it was when they debuted Passbook. I know some people use Passbook but I haven't found a use for it yet, even though I really want it to manage some of my loyalty cards...
If Apple and Samsung were to have NFC in their latest phones, it would represent a nascent market just waiting to disrupt slow-moving credit card companies.
I understand all about planned obsolescence and not wanting to release "incomplete" features (again ignoring Passbook), but it seems like NFC would be just as easy to integrate as GPS or the accelerometer. Give developers an API and let them figure out what to do with the thing.
He's right about that. I've never, ever seen anyone use a phone for mobile payments... or NFC in general. I did see someone use an iPhone as a boarding pass once. The idea of using a phone for credit card payments just seems silly and insecure in general. There's nothing wrong with using a little plastic card instead.
The only thing I can see NFC being useful for right now is instant contact-sending - get iPhones near each other to send the other person your contact and vice versa. Still, I can't really picture people actually doing that. Or can you already do this by email?
The only thing I can see NFC being useful for right now is instant contact-sending - get iPhones near each other to send the other person your contact and vice versa. Still, I can't really picture people actually doing that. Or can you already do this by email?
The Apple of today would have never released OS X. In its infancy it was an unpolished turd of an operating system; it only took 3 years for them to make it acceptable as a daily driver OS.
This eating crow thing over the iOS Maps app shows how much change has happened in the tech world, and in a way it's a little disappointing. Any rough edges on a product make it immediately deemed a failure by the wall street idiots, and then the market volatility ruins companies and ideas before their concepts see the light of day.
I don't care much about infancy because I like new things. Apple's engineers could certainly handle this task, if Apple's management was up to it. At this point in time they'd probably still get a lot of credit for the innovation because phone NFC tech isn't all that well adopted yet.
Seriously, it isn't.
My phone has NFC and the phone came with it off by default - there was no advertising whatsoever of the NFC capability, no example tag in the box, no offer for the service. As far as I'm concerned, the T-Mobile reps don't even know what NFC is. (I'm probably exaggerating there lol).
I think the tech could use a nice little push.
This eating crow thing over the iOS Maps app shows how much change has happened in the tech world, and in a way it's a little disappointing. Any rough edges on a product make it immediately deemed a failure by the wall street idiots, and then the market volatility ruins companies and ideas before their concepts see the light of day.
I don't care much about infancy because I like new things. Apple's engineers could certainly handle this task, if Apple's management was up to it. At this point in time they'd probably still get a lot of credit for the innovation because phone NFC tech isn't all that well adopted yet.
Seriously, it isn't.
My phone has NFC and the phone came with it off by default - there was no advertising whatsoever of the NFC capability, no example tag in the box, no offer for the service. As far as I'm concerned, the T-Mobile reps don't even know what NFC is. (I'm probably exaggerating there lol).
I think the tech could use a nice little push.
In Japan, mobile payment is really advanced.
You can purchase drink from vending machine to buy hardwares at electronic stores with only your cell phone.
Just tap it to the device on the counter and you're done.
Its "infancy" in North America but its alive all over the world.
You can purchase drink from vending machine to buy hardwares at electronic stores with only your cell phone.
Just tap it to the device on the counter and you're done.
Its "infancy" in North America but its alive all over the world.
How?
How are mobile payments in their infancy?
Recently, I was with my brother, who pulled out his phone at a grocery store, held it to the card swiper, paid and received a detailed receipt of the purchase within seconds.
Seems like it's more mature than say, my dumb iPhone.
How are mobile payments in their infancy?
Recently, I was with my brother, who pulled out his phone at a grocery store, held it to the card swiper, paid and received a detailed receipt of the purchase within seconds.
Seems like it's more mature than say, my dumb iPhone.
It's best to include details with your anecdotes so that ther readers can use your experience to help themselves. For example. The name of said grocery store.
Yes, of course. But I was talking about Tim, the person, and the ridiculousness of his statements.
In UK i can only use 6 apps for passbook, 2 of which are non UK airlines.
I guess in US passbook is finding more use. The idea is great though and if retailers did adopt it, it would be very useful.