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They really don’t sell your data. You can only sell somebody’s data once. They’re use the data themselves and sell ad space.
Incorrect; your data is always changing and evolving. Please explain why Google went and stole people's IP addresses in their white vans when they were taking street view pictures for Google Earth and were subsequently sued by over 30 states? Or how Google Home speakers "accidentally" were broadcasting homeowners conversations back to servers in Mountain View?
Please. Google is a data mining, data harvesting company which treads on people's privacy for its own gain.
 
I wish Apple stands up against the Chinese government for privacy, but making money is more important.
 
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Zuck would have said the same thing if he was asked about how iPhones were getting forced shutdown to push people to buy new phones. Tim should have stayed silent and taken the high road. This is hitting below the belt. Didn't expect this response.
 
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Apple learns from other people's mistakes; if it wasn't for the mistakes of all these other companies, whether its failures in mobile phones, music players, cloud services, Apple would not have the technology and products they have today. If the whole industry worked the way Apple does, innovation would grind to a halt as tech companies all tentatively wait for someone to do something first before following up with a 20/20 hindsight approach to rolling out "new" products.
False, right down to the dying headphone jack which Apple killed first.
 
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Apple hosts several bits of iCloud on Google Cloud Platform (similar to MS Azure and Amazon AWS). Surely Google can't be that bad, if even Apple decided to host parts of their critical cloud service on Googles cloud platform infrastructure?
 
I agree with Tim that it is creepy to start getting served ads for something you just bought as soon you hit another site.

However, the other side is also creepy, like my wife getting Viagra ads.

There has to be some middle ground where the power of the internet can be leveraged so that I don't get served junk that doesn't make sense for me, and making me feel like someone is monitoring my every move.
 
It’s not about whether Apple may have a leak or a security issue in the future. It is about the corporate policy and intent. And to this point, Tim speaks the truth. Apple is not in the business of mining all of your data for marketing. It is a simple fact. Facebook is, as is Google. That IS their model. FB is not selling you a product and making money by getting you to “open up your wallet”. FB and many aspects of Google are getting revenue from making you open up your Address book and all of your personal likes and dislikes, monitoring your every keystroke. That is clearly what Tim is addressing here. Having data stolen is very different from having the data you collected from users being used in an unexpected way. That is what has blown up on FB regarding this scandal. This isn’t about some hacking job, which yes, Apple is susceptible to as well. It’s about the nature of how the company views the privacy and personal data of its customer and how that casualness with privacy was exploited.
 
Tim Cook said:
We don't want porn on our App Store. We don't want hate speech on our App Store.

Yet it's totally fine for iTunes to have rated R movies and shows full of nudity, and music with racist epithets.

Seriously, what does "hate speech on our App Store" even mean? The App Store full of apps that encourage physical violence against the current President. What if I submitted an app that did the same for a previous President?
 
Tim likes to always blame the other guy but in truth Apple also collects users data for purpose of making money directly or indirectly. Shame on you!
 
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Incorrect; your data is always changing and evolving. Please explain why Google went and stole people's IP addresses in their white vans when they were taking street view pictures for Google Earth and were subsequently sued by over 30 states? Or how Google Home speakers "accidentally" were broadcasting homeowners conversations back to servers in Mountain View?
Please. Google is a data mining, data harvesting company which treads on people's privacy for its own gain.

To create profiles and better sell ads.
 
Apple and Facebook are worlds apart on privacy (thank you Apple), but I'd be careful if I were Tim Cook. He's setting himself up to be quoted the next time an App gets through review that does nasty things with user data. Obviously there are safeguards in place to prohibit the app from scraping a bunch of data from the users' contacts but any environment that allows third party code has the potential that the third parties will do bad things.

Before I get the nasty responses, I fully realize that one (Facebook) was created for the express purpose of harvesting user data whereas the other (Apple) has been a champion for safeguarding users. I'm just saying there's potential for abuse of Apple's ecosystem too.
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I love that they're doubling down on this upcoming legislative fight by the way.
Moving in the direction of having a tough stand on privacy does not mean you can’t have a slip-up with a iphone app. It will happen and only those with an axe to grind will make it “fake news”.
 
Zuckerberg and Cook right now are both in situations they deserve. Cook has repeatedly said that Apple values our privacy and will not compromise. Zuckerberg has been caught out doing abhorrent things with our data.
 
I hope Apple stays committed and improves on security. They’re the only major tech company that is somewhat good on this issue and I hope they take it even further.

I would never own an Android device after reading how easy it was for Facebook to steal call and text logs from outside the app.
 
Sure, Apple has taken a stance to not involve themselves in trying to figure out the best way to use customer data, which is why Siri is the least useful of all the digital assistance.
I do agree that Siri is the worst of any KI and if the KI's ever take over the world, Siri will probably kick my ass first. :)

But I am not sure that there is a correlation in that. Siri cannot follow up on questions that is not a question of privacy, but of coherences within uttered tasks that could be temporarily stored and deleted if necessary. Many of those utterances don't include personal data. But I think it would be nice if Siri could do a lot of the tasks that can be done by hand. I.e. "add song to playlist", "remove song from playlist", "increase to normal audio level", "this is normal audio level", "how's the weather in xy compared to the weather in..."

Maybe they need to put a more localized "Siri" on the devices thus avoiding much of the traffic and possible data breaches.
 
You are joking, right?
Just look at the business plan for Google. Why do they give the OS for Android away for free? Actually, it is less than free, meaning Google pays cell phone providers money to sell Android os-devices. Have you ever thought how Google makes any money? You and your information is the product that they sell to companies. And how do they obtain that said data? Oh, and the company motto is " Don't Be Evil"...how comforting is that?

It's recently been changed to "Do the right thing", BTW.
 
It’s not about whether Apple may have a leak or a security issue in the future. It is about the corporate policy and intent. And to this point, Tim speaks the truth. Apple is not in the business of mining all of your data for marketing. It is a simple fact. Facebook is, as is Google. That IS their model. FB is not selling you a product and making money by getting you to “open up your wallet”. FB and many aspects of Google are getting revenue from making you open up your Address book and all of your personal likes and dislikes, monitoring your every keystroke. That is clearly what Tim is addressing here. Having data stolen is very different from having the data you collected from users being used in an unexpected way. That is what has blown up on FB regarding this scandal. This isn’t about some hacking job, which yes, Apple is susceptible to as well. It’s about the nature of how the company views the privacy and personal data of its customer and how that casualness with privacy was exploited.

Bingo... companies, Apple included, will always have software and security problems... no company *wants* security breaches.. that’s not the issue here.

The issue is a company’s privacy policy and practices on personal data.
 
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Really? Do you know that Apple store iCloud data in Google data center? Oh, if that's not enough, Apple's iCloud data is also stored in Amazon's AWS
Yes, encrypted.

So what?
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Apple hosts several bits of iCloud on Google Cloud Platform (similar to MS Azure and Amazon AWS). Surely Google can't be that bad, if even Apple decided to host parts of their critical cloud service on Googles cloud platform infrastructure?
The iCloud data is Encrypted before it hits Google and Amazon's Servers.
 
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