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Tim Cook on What He Would Do in Mark Zuckerberg's Shoes: 'I Wouldn't Be in This Situation'

Naaaaak said:
Yet it's totally fine for iTunes to have rated R movies and shows full of nudity, and music with racist epithets.

Seriously, what does "hate speech on our App Store" even mean? The App Store full of apps that encourage physical violence against the current President. What if I submitted an app that did the same for a previous President?
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Nudity is not porn.
Porn is just people doing the naughty thing. Over and over. With close-ups of genitalia.
Nudity can be a stylistic device in a theater-piece or in a film.
There's lots of art from hundreds, thousands - and if you think of cave-paintings - tens of thousands of years ago that depicts naked people. Is that porn or is that art?
The line is sometime very thin - but it exists.

Same for lyrics in music.
 
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>>Apple, he says, looks at every app in detail. "Is it doing what it is saying it is doing?"

They should have applied that mantra to the "battery performance management" in iOS 10.2.1.
 
TC the dude.

Totally agree.... real shame that Apple can’t make a social media network. With their focus on privacy it would be very good for someone like me!

People really should be careful with FB. For years my account has been really locked down and never used ‘as a platform’. Find that in settings and delete it.

It also helps to cast a critical eye over political posts. If only people had critical thinking skills the USA wouldnt be in its current mess!
 
I7guy said:
Is that a privacy issue?
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Nope, but by going off on the tangent about "curation" on the app store, Tim touches on other areas on customer protection. Hiding how they handle dying batteries is not proper customer protection.
 
"Apple does not make its money selling customer data."
I dislike this blurb intensely because it is accusation by implication. WE don't sell your data. Last I checked others like FB, Google, etc. don't sell your data either. But that little blurb implies that others do exactly that. Which gets repeated by the ill informed as if it has relevancy. Now if Tim said that Apple wasn't hoovering up customer data just like the others, then I'd stand up and pay attention. I generally like Cook, but when he spouts his carefully crafted vague wording mumbo jumbo, I gotta give him the side eye.
 
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Change needs to come in one fashion or another. It is unreasonable to think that a majority have the inclination, time, understanding to question the facets of their using a platform such as Facebook, let alone Google. Protection, if not provided by the provider, will be provided by the government. Every void ends up getting filled in some form or another.
 
Wow this bozo Timmy has a comment for everything. He's a bean counter who lucked into a job he's totally incompetent at because Steve Jobs is horrible at picking CEOs.

Love it or hate it, Zuckerberg created an empire that is still worth almost half a trillion dollars even after it just dropped $90 billion. What has Timmy ever done besides suck dry everything that was ever good about Apple for the sake of a pile of money. He is driving away all the good will Apple ever had and once the iPhone becomes uncool it will take very little time for Apple to collapse.

Timmy has no passion or enthusiasm for what Apple is or does. He sees them as a maker of cheap, high-margin fashion accessory gadgets. Most of the Apple enthusiasts who helped make Apple great over the decades have long since been driven away by the fool running the show who doesn't give a damn if he's selling iPhones or bottles of Pepsi or Burberry money clips. He has no vision beyond dollar signs.

Timmy is right, he'd never be in Zuckerberg's situation. Zuckerberg is a creator, and Timmy is a destroyer. The sad part is there's a lot of money to be made in destroying. And like most destroyers, Timmy goes around crying like a little baby about what everyone else is doing rather than doing something himself. Great people are doing things in this world right now, the Timmys of the world can only sit back and cry at their own incompetence.
 
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psac said:
Nope, but by going off on the tangent about "curation" on the app store, Tim touches on other areas on customer protection. Hiding how they handle dying batteries is not proper customer protection.
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That ship has already sailed and has been dealt with. I didn’t have any issues with that, people did and some sued. Lesson learned apple.
 
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MRrainer said:
Nudity is not porn.
Porn is just people doing the naughty thing. Over and over. With close-ups of genitalia.
Nudity can be a stylistic device in a theater-piece or in a film.
There's lots of art from hundreds, thousands - and if you think of cave-paintings - tens of thousands of years ago that depicts naked people. Is that porn or is that art?
The line is sometime very thin - but it exists.

Same for lyrics in music.
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Tell Apple that definition. They apply it inconsistently to apps. Include nudity in apps the way it is depicted in some of the content on the iTunes Store and you'll be rejected under their definition of App-definition of "porn".
 
I also wish Apple would make a social network, a generic one this time, not one specifically to push artists and only on iTunes or some bs like that. This field is beyond ripe for someone NOT financed by selling user data or advertising (Google+, Facebook, Twitter) to step in. It's aggravating we're so... stuck. They could of course integrate it with iTunes Music, document sharing via iCloud Drive to others, and others of their services, just not shove it down our throat, but to give it synergy bonuses for them. They could use this opportunity to give Apple Maps more visibility, etc, etc.
 
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markfc said:
Hey Tim, unless you’ve personally reviewed every single line of code and checked the configuration of every single switch, firewall, server and database I wouldn’t be so smug.

Statements like that have a terrible tendency to come and bite you in the ass later on.

I still trust Apple completely with my data though.
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There’s a difference between a bug, and purposely building a surveillance apparatus.
 
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DevNull0 said:
Wow this bozo Timmy has a comment for everything. He's a bean counter who lucked into a job he's totally incompetent at because Steve Jobs is horrible at picking CEOs.

Love it or hate it, Zuckerberg created an empire that is still worth almost half a trillion dollars even after it just dropped $90 billion. What has Timmy ever done besides suck dry everything that was ever good about Apple for the sake of a pile of money. He is driving away all the good will Apple ever had and once the iPhone becomes uncool it will take very little time for Apple to collapse.

Timmy is right, he'd never be in Zuckerberg's situation. Zuckerberg is a creator, and Timmy is a destroyer. The sad part is there's a lot of money to be made in destroying. And like most destroyers, Timmy goes around crying like a little baby about what everyone else is doing rather than doing something himself. Great people are doing things in this world right now, the Timmys of the world can only sit back and cry at their own incompetence.
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Good for Cook. I disagree with your “sentiment”, and it’s extreme hyperbole, imo. But to each their own. I like the job he is doing at Apple and have bought more of their products as time has gone on.
 
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It’s easy for Tim to take this privacy stance and ding companies like Facebook and Google when Apple’s business model is centered around selling high margin hardware. It’s not like Apple decided on that business model because of privacy. But it sure is convenient to tout it now.
 
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I'm not understanding what people are in an uproar about. They willingly hand over their personal information to a company who's business model is designed about making it available to other companies and then they get upset they did so.

If you want your personal information to remain private don't hand it out to a company who's business model is built on having it.
 
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markfc said:
Hey Tim, unless you’ve personally reviewed every single line of code and checked the configuration of every single switch, firewall, server and database I wouldn’t be so smug.

Statements like that have a terrible tendency to come and bite you in the ass later on.
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Too late. Ask other competent companies how they're able to prevent Apple's celebrity nude photos leak.
 
dzoolander said:
You are joking, right?
Just look at the business plan for Google. Why do they give the OS for Android away for free? Actually, it is less than free, meaning Google pays cell phone providers money to sell Android os-devices. Have you ever thought how Google makes any money? You and your information is the product that they sell to companies. And how do they obtain that said data? Oh, and the company motto is " Don't Be Evil"...how comforting is that?

Here is one little quote by Eric Schmidt (he is the former CEO of Google):
"We know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less know what you’re thinking about” the Atlantic, 2010
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Apple knows all that too. Don't be gullible.

WE all know Google has data on us it doesn't mean they are doing anything malicious with the data.

They mostly use it for targeted advertising on things you already showed interest in. Yes, that's how they make their money. Personally I'd rather have advertising companies paying for my apps/tools then coming out of my own pocket. Same reason sports fans don't have to pay all of players salaries ADVERTISING REVENUE!

Sorry but at times I actually find it valuable when those companies put the items on sale that I want to buy and I get a banner ad. Otherwise it's pretty easy to ignore.
 
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There are lots of things that I disagree with Apple about. The removal of ports and output jacks from devices, preventing software like Spotify from easily access Apple hardware, and not following through with Voice Commands. They introduced Siri then really didn’t do anything with it and let others grab the lead.

But evidently Apple still is serious about protecting privacy. That doesn’t mean mistakes won’t release data but unlike FB it won’t be intentional. I don’t know if this will change but I hope not. Too many companies have twin dangers of collecting/selling data AND also getting hacked.
 
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Oh good God could this idiotic man be any more utterly two faced hypocritical..

All those endless ‘freemium’ apps data mining the hell out if everyone, all available through HIS App Store.. I can’t stand it when idiot people like Cook attempt to pull the blinders down on everyone and take the high ground, just to ‘try’ and promote their company as different... all in the nam of sales and more profit.

Pathetic!

I’ll repost the infamous article from 2 years ago..

http://toucharcade.com/2015/09/16/we-own-you-confessions-of-a-free-to-play-producer/

Cook is never and will never be even half the salesman, or even man Jobs was.

And if anyone doesn’t want their data sold, then stop using any electronic system or registration or device and go totally off grid, it is the ONLY way you’ll stop it. Aplle would just rather you use it’s devices though instead..
 
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Lucky736 said:
Here he is talking out of his ass again. Stay in your lane Tim.

I've seen firsthand how "unsecure" some Apple technologies and work has been over the years....... the statement markfc made about it biting them in the ass later will prove to be 100% correct.
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JGIGS said:
Big statement. Can we see your proof?
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You liked this comment but demand proof if it’s directed at the other side?
 
deanthedev said:
You liked this comment but demand proof if it’s directed at the other side?
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Apple has had icloud breaches. I already have proof of Apple security issues.

Also when I asked for proof it was directed at proof of Google doing something malicious with the data.
 
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mi7chy said:
Too late. Ask other competent companies how they're able to prevent Apple's celebrity nude photos leak.
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You mean the leak that was done through phishing? Where numerous iCloud AND Google account holders were tricked into giving up their passwords?

Or do you still cling to the myth that iCloud was hacked?
 
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