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Tim Cook on What He Would Do in Mark Zuckerberg's Shoes: 'I Wouldn't Be in This Situation'
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No one should trust the Chinese government, but argument is that they don't want their citizens' data store in US or elsewhere in principle, but also then process to request it doesn't need to go through US/EU courts.
Right, and “your holding it wrong” never existed either. Bugs/errors of omission are still bugs and is unrelated to the conversation.
Alas, in the end, people are STILL going to use Facebook and Google in significant ways. Free is simply too good to pass up. People complain about ads, IAP, DLC, but they don't put their money where their mouths are at and still watch ads via free streaming services, play freemium/free-to-play games, etc.
You mean like THESE? :
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/data-center-faqs/apple-data-center-faq
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/apple/apples-icloud-china-set-move-state-controlled-data-center
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/app...to-boost-data-center-capex-by-10-billion.html
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/08/apples-next-us-data-center-will-be-built-in-iowa/
http://fortune.com/2017/07/10/apple-data-center-denmark/
The issue is that, although you can sign-up 10 million iCloud subscribers in a heartbeat, it takes several million heartbeats to actually BUILD a Datacenter to HOUSE that Data.
So, what is Apple to do in the meantime? Say "Sorry, you can't use iCloud Backup with that shiny new iPhone. It's FULL!"...???
So, they do what EVERYONE (and I mean EVERYONE) does: They rent "rackspace" (essentially) to co-locate their ALREADY ENCRYPTED Data on these other Mega-Datacenter Sites, until their Apple-Owned Datacenters can take up the slack.
Got it?
And Fb’s error that allowed external companies to collect user data is, by I7guy’s verdict
Right and by bacillus logic that (FB)was an inadvertent error or omission and that is why FB scrambled to release an easy to use tool for the users rather than just a back-end website fix. Can’t have it both ways. A bad decision is not to be confused with a bug, unless as it seems it’s posted here.
I am making assumptions:
- That any server located in China is government owned and operated.
- That the government there either implicitly or for all practical purposes maintains they have the right the AND therefore must have the the ability to access any data stored on its servers for whatever reason they deem necessary.
- That any encryption of data must be reversible by keys the Chinese government possesses. This is the one I don’t think any US company doing business in China talks about. It’s bad PR both for them and the Chinese. And China is a huge potential market that has money to spend.
I can’t prove those statements, but any power an organization has, whether it is a business or a government, will be abused at some point.
There aren’t many real limits to what the Chinese are allowed to do as far as data monitoring goes so I imagine that they look at anyone’s data that they think might be violating a law, whether that’s a business crime, a physical theft crime, or a thinking the wrong way crime.
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Everyone reported it at the time but here's one story that I found:
https://9to5mac.com/2018/02/03/ios-11-3-icloud-sign-on-solution/
There is no better time than now for Apple to launch this. The problem with Facebook isn't that they can see what you post, it's that they follow you all over the entire web because of the ubiquity of Facebook's sign in button.
I want to have Apple sign me in to websites without a password. Work with a token so that that website will always log me in on any iPhone, iPad or Mac that's logged into my Apple ID. Secure it with Face ID or Touch ID. No passwords. No Facebook.
Everyone reported it at the time but here's one story that I found:
https://9to5mac.com/2018/02/03/ios-11-3-icloud-sign-on-solution/
There is no better time than now for Apple to launch this. The problem with Facebook isn't that they can see what you post, it's that they follow you all over the entire web because of the ubiquity of Facebook's sign in button.
I want to have Apple sign me in to websites without a password. Work with a token so that that website will always log me in on any iPhone, iPad or Mac that's logged into my Apple ID. Secure it with Face ID or Touch ID. No passwords. No Facebook.
Oh, cool! I’d not seen this being reported anywhere & I follow tech news. Thanks!
yep. which is why when folks started access for more information about what information apps were accessing, iOS was changed so apps have to ask you to opt in to access to the camera, photos, contacts, etc etc etc. which is really something Facebook should have done with its apps api. instead of 'click here to let these folks access anything they want from your profile' it's "this is exactly what we want to look at". plus I'm not sure that Facebook vets these apps to make sure they are only asking to see what they really need to see.
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Chinese laws are different so they can either follow the rules or not do business there. same as with the EU where new laws say that Apple has to tell users very tiny bit of data the company has on users.
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'the next'? when has Apple been hacked. I'm not talking about idiot celebrities and their assistants falling for a phishing scheme. I mean Apple established and run servers getting a brute force intrusion
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you might want to loosen your tin foil because not even Apple has done that. Folks have been screaming about apple ruining old phones with new software for years, forgetting that many of those folks had batteries that were a year old and degraded batteries means degraded performance, especially with newer software that has new and more power hungry tricks. the only folks that bought a new phone over that stuff were the ones too dumb or lazy to ask Apple what could be going on with the phones
The bad news is that as far as I can tell, it’s not been activated. Apple would need to provide web developers code to add this to their websites. Maybe at WWDC, but then why add it into iOS 11.3?
It was a “breach of trust” (Zuckerman) and so was Apple’s omission - at least for me - whatever sorry they all are. If you follow the Cook spin, you should follow Zuckerman’s
The point is, Apple lost the moral superiority to behave like the knows-best
Lol, it' not your personal data ffs, it' encrypted code that a set of fingers on a keyboard this lunchtime maybe went on a hotel website looking to stay in London for example . So then when on that same computer be it home or work, a maybe different set of fingers goes on a different website. London hotel options may be in a little ad space in the bottom right hand corner. So basically they are showing more of the same about what someone was looking at on that screen. It's not targeted at Joe blogs, it' just linking more options to previously viewed similar options thinking that you mite actually be interested. Use goole search, youtube etc without being signed in, it doesn' know who the f#ck you are, it still works the same. Jeez..
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And the cost, for all these great services that are completely free, some small ads in the corner. Whooppee frikkin do! !!!! How do many big budget films get made, with product placement. It makes the world go round.. deal with it..
It's your God given right, in your mind, to have the opinion of minimizing the "breach of trust" by Zuckerberg and over exaggerating the "sinking of the ship" by Cook with your own examples. I have no such cognitive dissonance on this subject. Facebook is sleazy and Apple policies (and Cook's views) are great for the company. (And it's my God given right to have that opinion as well) G'day sir.
I more or less agree with you about Apple’s battery fiasco: that the intent was good but the implementation was dreadful. I feel that this comes from Apple’s long standing penchant for secrecy. Many people mention the famous Steve Jobs “One More Thing” that he sometimes used at the end of a announcement, where he revealed some previously unknown product or feature. What Apple fails to realize is that worked when no one expected or was looking for secret announcements but after a few times people and tech sites started looking months ahead of time at Apple suppliers and what they were working on. It may not be perfectly accurate but it keeps getting more accurate each year. Too many people have to know what is being planned to really keep it a secret. Apple should quit trying to blanket everything in secrecy and concentrate on items where they have a good chance of success. I honestly think that the CPU speed manipulation was for exactly the reasons that Apple says that they were for. Why? Because tech sites test phones against known performance benchmarks all the time. Any CPU throttling was bound to be discovered. Not maybe but guaranteed. So why did they do it? So the phones would continue working albeit at a slower rate, just like they said. I believe it was Apple’s policy about ‘need to know ‘ that bit them. They announced a fix was coming about poor battery performance BUT not what it did. Why does the end user need to know what we are doing to fix this as long as we fix it? The reason was the fix affected performance of older phones right before the release of a major new phone. I think if Apple had said what the battery fix did they wouldn’t have caught as much flack. Some, but not as much. But since Apple had said there were releasing a fix and said which release would have it they would have to be pretty stupid to include that fix for the express purpose of tricking people to buy a new phone. The CPU throttling was bound to be discovered by testing sites. Instead, I think that they were stupid for not releasing AHEAD OF TIME what that solution was and what the consequences were. Instead they released that information as an attempt to explain after the fact. Quit being so paranoid about secrecy and need to know and explain what and why. Even on new products and features. Quit waiting for the announcement day to release basic specs and limitations.
No they didn’t. Apple doesn’t have a business built on selling access to your data. This was bound to happen eventually because of the business model that Facebook runs under.
And it isn’t just Facebook. Remember when a couple Google employees were stalking their exes via GMail?
There is a huge problem in my eyes with “but we really didn’t think our flawed business model was going to have this flaw”.
Duhh...tell me about bigger Silicon Valley companies.
They all tell 1/2 truths. Cerrtainly FB is terrible but Apple isn’t the one who should criticise.
What’s the rationale behind throttling an iPhone 7 (less than a year old) “in the customers’ interest” - which is only accepted because of the bigger story (“we did it regardless of the model” - which is the smaller lie to conceal the bigger lies etc.)
All those guys here eating Apple PR/spin in bulk are so selective in their judgements
They just ask to get misled.
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This is just spin control to distract from the throttling fiasco. Tim Cook doesn't have a good poker face so it was obvious in his expression and behavior that he was dishonest going on about not monetizing his customers because throttling is just another way to do so.
One doesn't need to go as far as Silicon Valley, or even get in a car, to see spin. Great examples abound in these forums.
For example, comparing battery management to a massive data harvest of 50 million unsuspecting users. That's sure some great spin.
I forget. Did throttling the battery undermine democracy? Or was it just an engineering choice that they should have told us about that annoyed a few people?
More great spin. You’re not paying for iCloud etc because, guess what, you bought hardware. How much is a Facebook annual subscription?