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Tim Cook Ordered to Attend 7-Hour Deposition in Apple vs. Epic Games Lawsuit

I7guy said:
I think 7 hours is enough time to show how corrupt Epic is.
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With Apples legal team law firms what ever you recognize them as 7 minutes would probably be enough.
Even if Apple loose's they'll appeal and be right back at it again. Apple afforded Epic the opportunity to fix the app.

Apples platform Apples rules. If you don't like those Apples than go else where.
 
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michaelsviews said:
With Apples legal team law firms what ever you recognize them as 7 minutes would probably be enough.
Even if Apple loose's they'll appeal and be right back at it again. Apple afforded Epic the opportunity to fix the app.

Apples platform Apples rules. If you don't like those Apples than go else where.
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While I was being a bit sarcastic, Epic CEO will be diposed also. So Apple's legal team will have enough opportunity to get what they are looking for also.
 
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Ohh just so your country has return policy doesn’t mean every country has one. From where I live, you don’t get to return a product once you bought it. You can only have it replaced it is has factory defect within 7 days. There is no ‘this product is not for me let me get my money back’
michaelsviews said:
Such as? Did someone take you to the apple store and force you to buy an Apple product and NOT return it with in the 2 week return period?
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Imagine, a 100 games from 100 companies each with their own ‘in game currency’ and then suddenly 50 of these companies decide to close their own App Store and disappear with your money.

Nah. The world is so big and developers from everywhere. You can’t police that chaos and lawyers can’t get your money back.
 
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ArPe said:
Imagine, a 100 games from 100 companies each with their own ‘in game currency’ and then suddenly 50 of these companies decide to close their own App Store and disappear with your money.

Nah. The world is so big and developers from everywhere. You can’t police that chaos and lawyers can’t get your money back.
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
 
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mattspace said:
...because Apple is an abusive monopolist, with prior convictions for antitrust violation, and has been convicted in multiple international jurisdictions of deceiving customers with regards to their rights under various consumer laws.
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First Apple is NOT an abusive monopolist as Epic tried to violate a contract and an another court has already ruled their banishment from the Apple story was "a self inflicted wound". Don't like the iPhone's well neither does about 75% of the market so they get an Android. In what delusional world does 25% of a marketshare constitute an monopoly and two companies (remember Epic is also suing Google for also being a monopoly) are monopolies in the same market?!

Second the whole ebook mess was far more complicated then you let on and if you took at how Apple got to where it was I get the impression the real monopolists got away effectively Scott free as who remembers their involvement?
 
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Maximara said:
First Apple is NOT an abusive monopolist as Epic tried to violate a contract and an another court has already ruled their banishment from the Apple story was "a self inflicted wound". Don't like the iPhone's well neither does about 75% of the market so they get an Android. In what delusional world does 25% of a marketshare constitute an monopoly and two companies (remember Epic is also suing Google for also being a monopoly) are monopolies in the same market?!

Second the whole ebook mess was far more complicated then you let on and if you took at how Apple got to where it was I get the impression the real monopolists got away effectively Scott free as who remembers their involvement?
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Mercedes got fined just because they play monopoly on the spare parts. People who bought an iPhone still own their rights. Because they paid full price on that phone.
 
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kk200 said:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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Franklin was referring to governments not corporations which in the form of the East India Company had been around since 1600. More over it doesn't mean what you think it means

This is clear when you read it in context. "The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it." Today we would likely use a blunter term - bribe.

"It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. It means, in context, not quite the opposite of what it's almost always quoted as saying but much closer to the opposite than to the thing that people think it means."
 
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djcerla said:
Yup.

Abject failures like AirPods and the M1 chip are here to remind us how terrible for Apple Cook is.
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Sure, the monumental failure of the Mac Mini with the M1 chip, that is literally flying off the shelves....
 
kk200 said:
Can they argue the content of the agreement? No!
Why? because there is no 2. app store on iOS. Apple can put whatever constraint they like into the agreement.
If Apple decides you should not use Parler, then you cannot.
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That is a misrepresentation. If Apple decides they do not want to carry Parler, or any other app, in their app store, then you can go elsewhere - like their website - to access the service. Apple is not blocking access to sites or services it chooses not to carry in its App Store due to failure to follow the agreements they made.
 
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Pulling Cook away from one day at apple.

Epic Endgame.
 
Honestly I'm not sure what all the angst about depositions is all about. Depositions allow for the truth to come out, which I think we would all want. After all, when has the truth ever hurt someone?

I think the real question is whether Tim Sweeney will have to sit through a 7 hour deposition. Does anyone know if this will be the case? It seems only fair that both CEOs are deposed for equal length so both sides have equal opportunity to reveal the truth.
 
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kk200 said:
You paid for you phone in full price. It is not a rent-phone. Apple has no right to tell you what you can use an what you cannot
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This seems to be a common misunderstanding at the crux of many "arguments".

You bought your phone (hardware) and with it a LICENSE to use the OS (software that enables hardware functionality), which is governed by terms of use which you agreed to follow.
 
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Mc0 said:
Ohh just so your country has return policy doesn’t mean every country has one. From where I live, you don’t get to return a product once you bought it. You can only have it replaced it is has factory defect within 7 days. There is no ‘this product is not for me let me get my money back’
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Here in the US there is Buyers Remorse Law at both the Federal (FTC) and state level. Since this is a US case in a US court what other countries do isn't relevant.
 
bookofxero said:
This seems to be a common misunderstanding at the crux of many "arguments".

You bought your phone (hardware) and with it a LICENSE to use the OS (software that enables hardware functionality), which is governed by terms of use which you agreed to follow.
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Right and per the DMCA Apple has certain rights regarding protecting how its OS is used as Psystar found out the hard way. It would be funny if that come in via the side door and Epic was left figuring out where to go.
 
mattspace said:
...because Apple is an abusive monopolist, with prior convictions for antitrust violation, and has been convicted in multiple international jurisdictions of deceiving customers with regards to their rights under various consumer laws.
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Yeah yeah, but besides that. ;)
 
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What's Cook salary? $120m total/year? Then 7 hours = full day = $330k just for going to this meeting.
 
kk200 said:
You paid for you phone in full price. It is not a rent-phone. Apple has no right to tell you what you can use an what you cannot
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You clearly didn't read the agreement when you first turned on the phone for setup.

You are essentially licensing the operating system. Don't like it, install a different system on it — if you can.
 
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