Tim Cook Profiled in New Biography as 'The Genius Who Took Apple to the Next Level'

[Analog Kid]

I truly doubt that Steve Jobs would have kept the current keyboards around for 3+iterations of problem after problem. Yes, ******* released some problematic stuff while Steve was around, but 2nd version fixed it or removed it. Cook doesn't seem to be that interested as long as he can maximize profits

Do you remember how long Apple kept the one button mouse despite the complaints? When they finally added a second button they only did it because they could hide the fact that there were, in fact, two buttons...

Is the implication here that Steve somehow didn’t try to maximize his profits or that Cook doesn’t want to make good products?

 

[I7guy]

Two things...one IBM wasn't on the verge of bankruptcy prior to Lou taking the helm. While they were in serious decline, they were still worth over $40 a share when he took over. Two, IBM was never the world's most valuable company during his tenure. Again, nope.

IBM Was in the state of serious decline and gerstner brought it back. So my vote is yep. Anyway is the scheme of things this discussion is irrelevant. It’s about some internet points. The fact is cook like it OR NOT is being portrayed in a certain way.

 

[JOBS-3:16]

IBM Was in the state of serious decline and gerstner brought it back. So my vote is yep. Anyway is the scheme of things this discussion is irrelevant. It’s about some internet points. The fact is cook like it OR NOT is being portrayed in a certain way.

I very easily proved that your answer was incorrect, and yet you still vote 'yep'. Therefore, we are done here. Thanks for playing.

 

[Analog Kid]

Just utilise the same strategy you did in your previous post - throw in some links from macrumors and other forums, then measure percents by yourself.

Ok, so “a solid 15-20% chance” was just a number pulled from thin air and the MR echo chamber...

 

[I7guy]

I very easily proved that your answer was incorrect, and yet you still vote 'yep'. Therefore, we are done here. Thanks for playing.

Nope. Since the rules were arbitrary to begin with, I’ll add you can mention a ceo whose background is not aligned with the main business of the company.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

Why do you tell Woz that?
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Um, his best in the world supply chain management? He is THE best and was that genius during the Jobs era too. Do you have any idea how insane Apple’s supply chain is and the complexity behind it? You don’t. Cook is a genius. Genius, genius, genius.

Apple is OBJECTIVELY a stronger company today than any time during the Jobs era.

Services are growing at 20%, so the story isn’t over. Cook also managed to sell 3X as many iPhones as Jobs ever did at his peak. He’s taken everything to the next level and introduced a leader in silicon, wearables, and services.
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I honestly feel sad for the people who don’t recognize the genius of Tim Cook. It was not a joke; he is a genius.

You are truly entertaining. Please don't stop posting here.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

My 2 cents:

Perhaps calling Tim Cook a 'Genius' is not meant to be taken literally, and is in fact a pun on the 'Apple Genius' terminology?

In that context, it makes sense. In the context of managing Apple to it's financial success, it makes sorta-sense.

That said, if meant literally or in any way shape or form comparative to Steve Jobs then the use of the term is raucously laughable, as is using the term 'next-level' in any other context than a financial one.

Tim has handled Apple's focus-shift from Mac to i-Devices poorly from a Mac user perspective. The state of the Mac is borderline irresponsible. It almost seems on purpose: drive away Mac users that refuse to integrate into the iOS future. Ye

iDevices have gotten better, but not 8(!)-years-from-Steve's-concepts better IMHO. iOS's seeming stagnation is jarring and frustrating for those of us who went Android but have Macs. But the iPad hardware is pretty great, and I get it's seeming fragmentation. It's sad for me, though, to see that the MacOS is still the best thing at Apple and I cannot use it because the associated hardware is crap (for my needs). I never thought I'd see the day that I had to choose to leave MacOS for Windows because of Apple's hardware choices, but alas.

Regarding Apple Watch and AirPods, I don't buy that those came from Tim. Steve's Team, particularly Jony Ive, is still at Apple, and is the guy that truly worked that side of Steve Jobs, the vision-to-reality side.

I believe the Apple Watch is nothing more than an evolution of the Nano and it's next logical phase.

The AirPods seem to me a more calculated profit opportunity: remove the headphone jack (saves Apple a few cents per device) and sell a device to provide the missing functionality (while making huge profits in the markup). Brilliant.

The same goes for Mac laptops: pull 3 things, give them 1 (the Macbook Air being the latest example), sell dongles to fill the new gaps. Mo' money.

It's like creating the disease so they can sell you the cure.

It that context, yes, he IS a Genius.

 

[nebojsak]

Ok, so “a solid 15-20% chance” was just a number pulled from thin air and the MR echo chamber...

Same goes for your rock-solid evidence of Jobs' era fails.

But, it seems we're discussing entirely different things. I stated the obvious that bothers me - the Pro line of products that used to be Apple ™ back in the day is nonexistent at the time. Period. And I really find no interest in their quality products like airpods, watches and stuff, nor in the ********s of money they are making.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

Genius? GENIUS!! He the corporate careerist who just happened to be at the biggest tech company booming & fell ass-backwards into the CEO seat when the true genius died.

While the word genius clearly does not apply to Cook, it's also an exaggeration to apply it to Jobs who had the habit of taking credit for what others did.

 

[Baymowe335]

You are truly entertaining. Please don't stop posting here.

Post some real content and we will have a discussion. I’m the voice of reason among the haters.

 

[Analog Kid]

Same goes for your rock-solid evidence of Jobs' era fails.

But, it seems we're discussing entirely different things. I stated the obvious that bothers me - the Pro line of products that used to be Apple ™ back in the day is nonexistent at the time. Period. And I really find no interest in their quality products like airpods, watches and stuff, nor in the ********s of money they are making.

Not the same really— I made assertions and supported them. You’ve made assertions and haven’t.

My list of product failures was in response to you asking if anyone could imagine the kinds of product failures you think we’ve seen recently. Rather than just say “yes, I could” I supported my point with examples of such. Product failures have always happened, Apple has always been hit with class actions, we’ve seen recurring problems with batteries and GPUs in particular before Cook ever took the helm.

I supported my assertion.

The move away from Mac as a core product also started before Cook, and I provided links to support my assertion.

Your 15-20% number looks grossly inflated to me, and I provided links to support my assertion.

It appears the keyboard failure rate is back below the failure rate of the previous generation, and I provided links to support my assertion.

I haven’t mentioned watches, AirPods or profits.

I have asked where you are getting your 15-20% number to check if my understanding of the problem is skewed, but it seems there’s no real evidence to support it.

 

[nebojsak]

I have asked where you are getting your 15-20% number to check if my understanding of the problem is skewed, but it seems there’s no real evidence to support it.

Just checked one of the links you provided:

LAPTOPS
Among the top laptop brands, Apple's "broken or not working as well" percentage is 17. Other brand percentages: Samsung 27; Dell 29; HP 30; Lenovo 31; and Asus 33.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-macbooks-still-the-most-reliable/

 

[Analog Kid]

Just checked one of the links you provided:

LAPTOPS
Among the top laptop brands, Apple's "broken or not working as well" percentage is 17. Other brand percentages: Samsung 27; Dell 29; HP 30; Lenovo 31; and Asus 33.​

https://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-macbooks-still-the-most-reliable/

That is correct. Still the lowest problem rate in the industry...

This doesn’t support your 15-20% keyboard failure rate number. This is the number of people reporting to CR that their computer doesn’t work as well as it used to. If all of these were sent back for service and they were all 2016 units then the Apple Insider data would suggest that 11% of that 17% had keyboard failures.

Less than 2%.

If they were newer models the chance is even lower...

 

[CartoonCat]

With a name like Leander is has to be good.

 

[ackmondual]

Tim Cook, the Genius who took Apple into politics.

I just read the blurb for this book, and it invokes similar feelings like when I hear Trump talk

Is this the correct title? Shouldn't it be 'Tim Apple, the guy who ran out of ideas after Steve's plans and made minor incremental updates and canned any sense of technological innovation whilst introducing major price hikes whilst other brands get ahead'.


EDIT:
This book is going to cost just $299.99 because it has a memoji front cover. We think you're gonna love it and pay this ridiculous price instead of adding a USB C port.

That's less than a dollar a page! Just barely.

 

[nebojsak]

That is correct. Still the lowest problem rate in the industry...

Oh, I missed that part from the article

On the other hand, they still offer Apple's excellent reliability. How do you put a price on that?

Now this is what I call an objective review.

 

[Analog Kid]

Oh, I missed that part from the article

Now this is what I call an objective review.

The data comes from Consumer Reports, the color commentary was added by ZDNet... Obviously there are ways to put a price on reliability— businesses do it all the time.

 

[McScooby]

Anyone who knows and understands Apple knows that their tech pipeline is approx. 5 years into the future. Therefore, Touch ID was in the pipeline when Steve was still alive. Along with many other products.

As I remembered, but taken from wikipedia;
"In 2012, Apple acquired AuthenTec, a company focused on fingerprint reading and identification management software, for $356 million."
They were in the right place at the right time when they bought the best tech available out there that hadn't been used mass market yet. Remember Samsung et al had fingerprint readers before, but were clunky implementations of it.
5yrs I'm not so sure, despite what you may believe, I think that was mentioned as a quote on SJ's passing, but not officially from !

 

[nebojsak]

That is correct. Still the lowest problem rate in the industry...

This doesn’t support your 15-20% keyboard failure rate number. This is the number of people reporting to CR that their computer doesn’t work as well as it used to. If all of these were sent back for service and they were all 2016 units then the Apple Insider data would suggest that 11% of that 17% had keyboard failures.

Less than 2%.

If they were newer models the chance is even lower...

Just found on the other topic

[*]Unshaky (Free) - Unshaky is not an Apple-sanctioned app, and that's because it's meant to fix a major Apple problem - the faulty MacBook Pro keyboard. Unshaky is designed for people who have keys where the letters repeat, as it's able to detect the extra presses and eliminate them. We haven't tried this app ourselves because we don't have a keyboard with repeating letters, but it has positive reviews as a temporary fix from those who are having issues. If you have a repeating key you'll need to get a repair from Apple, but this can help while you wait.

 

[ralpa]

The genius who messed up the product lineup of iPad.
The genius who thinks taking out earphone jack is as revolutionary as taking out floppy disk drive

 

[imageWIS]

Is this the correct title? Shouldn't it be 'Tim Apple, the guy who ran out of ideas after Steve's plans and made minor incremental updates and canned any sense of technological innovation whilst introducing major price hikes whilst other brands get ahead'.


EDIT:
This book is going to cost just $299.99 because it has a memoji front cover. We think you're gonna love it and pay this ridiculous price instead of adding a USB C port.

Awesome post! You win one internet!

 

[iLLUMI]

What is the next level, announcing a product which does not even exist?

From Virtual Reality to Augmented Reality to Tim Apple Reality.
In the realm of Tim Apple Reality, proclaimed products do exist, just not in this reality (in our reality).

 

[imageWIS]

What is the next level, announcing a product which does not even exist?

Or saying it will come out and then mysteriously cancelling it (ahem AirPower ahem).

 

[R.P.G]

Why does it need to do something innovative or different? It is a nice speaker. It has Siri. Amazon and Google have their versions. HomePod does what it is says itll do.

Steve Jobs death: 2011
Touch ID introduced: 2013

Please go look up the leap from the A11 to A12. I'm sure you won't do that so well just stop there.

You conveniently skipped a number of the things I listed.
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When the iPod was released this place lost their minds. No matter what Apple releases this place talks bad about it. It is really weird honestly.

lol..nothing to skip there..you just mentioned normal iterations and usual products as innovation/improvements..what can anyone say..do you remember when first iphone is released, it was touted/proved as a industry shaking product..can you say the same for the products you mentioned?

so, you think Tim came in to power and immediately ..just in two years he innovated TouchID.?the idea is from Jobs era..unfortunate he didnt see that..

 

[JOBS-3:16]

As I remembered, but taken from wikipedia;
"In 2012, Apple acquired AuthenTec, a company focused on fingerprint reading and identification management software, for $356 million."
They were in the right place at the right time when they bought the best tech available out there that hadn't been used mass market yet. Remember Samsung et al had fingerprint readers before, but were clunky implementations of it.
5yrs I'm not so sure, despite what you may believe, I think that was mentioned as a quote on SJ's passing, but not officially from !

It's not what I believe, it is fact. For example, the original Macintosh project started in 1979, and the 128k Macintosh was released in 1984. The tech pipeline is typically 5 years into the future, this is common knowledge. Facts are something many of you either can't, or choose not to accept here, unfortunately.