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Tim Cook Reaches Five Years as Apple CEO, Unlocks Over $100 Million in Bonuses

VAGDesign said:
Would be nice instead of bonuses to deliver new Mac Pros, new Displays and Pro software... just saying.
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This is the only real argument against Apple that I agree with. It kind of sucks that Apple isn't supporting Pro apps like they used to. I don't use the Pro software, but I feel bad for those that do. Also, the Thunderbolt Display needs an update. Again, I feel bad for people who want that.

Luckily I'm happy with the current lineup and products for myself.
 
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Dave245 said:
iPhones sales were massive for the 6 and 6 Plus, last years 6s once again broke Apples own records, i'd say Apple are doing well. Innovation isn't about constantly churning out new categories. I'd say Apple are still innovative and still make great products, customer satisfaction is very high.
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I'm just disputing the "exponantional" part. They still make excellent products for many, my only criticism, the price outside of the US
 
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CEmajr said:
Not sure why the concern with market share. Apple never has and never will dominate in market share due to pricing. That's why in phones Apple makes almost ALL of the industry's profits while Android manufacturers play the race to the bottom market share game and lose money. Similar with Macs. How many PC hardware companies are making anything close to what Apple makes off Macs? Market share is irrelevant.

S model iPhones always look like their previous version even when Steve was here. As for iPads, same as with Macs and phones. Who's making money from tablets besides Apple? Who's selling more tablets than Apple?
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Samsung is making less money because they're pumping far more money in R&D and their phones are reasonable priced for the technology you get. Don't forget that more then half of the components Apple is using in their iPhones are actually from Samsung.
Also Samsung is making their own camera's, ram, screens while iPhone is glued together with nothing Apple except the A9/10. That's why Apple making that huge profits. When you dive into this matter, there is nothing to be proud of that huge profits and it's a shame they don't give their customers the latest and the greatest with those pricing. I think iPhone 7 will under deliver. It might be faster... But since it's not real multitasking it's subjective... I don't care if my phone is tens of seconds faster. I care about camera quality, screen, overall quality and price. If Apple doesn't make their phones cheaper, they'll lose lots of share. And with less market share third party companies will focus less and less on Apple with their own no compatible cables etc.
 
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Thunderhawks said:
Classical uninformed jab.
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Correction. It was an informed jab.

Thunderhawks said:
Not everybody broadcasts what they do for charity, nor would YOU have the right to decide what anybody does with their money.

With todays social media all over everything any info would be criticized anyway.

Oh, you donate to the Leukemia foundation, you mean heart and lung is not worth it.?Why not Newington Children hospital, MADD or blah blah blah.

For starters, please post how much money you make and what you donate to whom and I'll let you know how you are supposed to split that up.
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As to the most of the remaining parts of your post, you are obviously defensive, so I'm not going to address it.

Thunderhawks said:
starters, please post how much money you make and what you donate to whom and I'll let you know how you are supposed to split that up.
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When I become a public figure, and disclose my personal finances, you will be the first person I come to for help.

Please note that my OP stated that no one in the thread mentioned how much he donated to charity. I wasn't singling you out. I apologize if you thought it was a personal attack. It wasn't.
 
Dave245 said:
iPhones sales were massive for the 6 and 6 Plus, last years 6s once again broke Apples own records, i'd say Apple are doing well. Innovation isn't about constantly churning out new categories. I'd say Apple are still innovative and still make great products, customer satisfaction is very high.
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There's only so much you can do with a smartphone. If people expect "innovation" every year, you simply aren't going to get it. The 6s broke records. The 7 will break records. Simple.
 
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tardegrade said:
MacRumors Forum posting rules.
Rule #1. When you have nothing to say, post a worn out jibe about watchbands and collect up votes.
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I don't care about votes. I care that Apple has become the ho-hum megacorp of Cupertino thanks to Tim. Instead of making a rehash of everything I've already said in length about Cook's tenure, I called it Sarcasm Wednesday. Don't like it? Too bad.
 
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MH01 said:
I'm just disputing the "exponantional" part. They still make excellent products for many, my only criticism, the price outside of the US
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Yea prices are high, here in the UK the 6s Plus starts at £619, i fully expect the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus to be higher.
 
chriscrowlee said:
Imagine where iOS and iPhone\iPad and Mac would be today if his incentive would have been based on marketshare instead of tenure. Longevity pay of any kind is the worst incentive. All it does is encourage someone to just do the bare minimum to keep their job.
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Definitely way worse than where Apple is today.

Emphasis on profitless market share was precisely what doomed Apple in the beginning, and the reason why so many Android OEMs are floundering.

Apple has the lion's share of profits in the market, and you are suggesting that Apple toss that all away in favour of a strategy which has clearly not worked for the competition?
 
chriscrowlee said:
Mac holds less marketshare than ever in history.
iOS sinks to record low marketshare.
iPhone now makes up less marketshare than ever.
iPhone 7 looks like iPhone 6S, and iPhone 6S looks like iPhone 6.
MacBook Pro Line goes nearly 5 years and still no update.
iPad sales lagging industry.

Not a resume I'd want... sure Apple is profitable... but has been stagnant for a while in product. And the reason the company is successful is the coat-tails they're still riding from past successes.

Innovation is the name of the game, and without it, it's a boring and unsuccessful path when it comes to technology.
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The competition now is very different from what it was 6 years ago... cheap android devices of any shape and price, a more mature android, tablet market is not growing but Apple is still leading, Apple hit it's own record sales under Tim, and while it's only my opinion iPhone 6s/plus was probably the best iPhone ever! There will be another record sales next years with the iPhone 8 for sure.....no one knows how good they are doing on VR and Car segment, we will judge in the next 5-7 years.

This is why you are not a CEO...
 
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chriscrowlee said:
Imagine where iOS and iPhone\iPad and Mac would be today if his incentive would have been based on marketshare instead of tenure. Longevity pay of any kind is the worst incentive. All it does is encourage someone to just do the bare minimum to keep their job.
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What a fool you sound like. A company must continue on the proper trajectory for a person to maintain his longevity. Not only that, FY 2011 net profit was US$25B. FY 2015 was US$53B. Doubling net profit in 4 years isn't enough for you?
 
drumcat said:
Cook is going to be great or terrible based on the metrics you apply. It's such a vast entity, you can have all range of opinions, and be able to defend them.

I'll say this. The hardware is behind. They know that. Intel got behind, and I think you're going to see that never happen again. Tim Cook's time at the top has had him not utterly tank the business Steve rebuilt. As someone following a cult icon, that's actually better than expected. I really truly believe his tenure is going to be defined by the next six months. I have the money to buy a new machine. Will I want to? Millions of people are about to make a purchase decision on the iPhone 7, missing a 3.5mm jack. Will they balk at it?

In the end, the "lead" has been ceded to Samsung and Huawei on hardware, but not on software. That "few years ahead of the competition" is a memory now. Computers are not always a spec war, but they do have to be compelling. And for everyone who got on that "iPhone every year" nonsense, good luck with all those headphone dongles.

Ultimately, 2017 is either going to be one of Apple's finer years, or the Grace Period is going to be nearly over. I know I removed 2/3 of my exposure to AAPL ahead of this iPhone launch... so, so many good and bad things going on with Apple today, no polar opinions seem appropriate. Just remember, inspiration gets pushed into the pipeline years before the magic is public. As such, this is Tim's time now. Let's see how 2016 finishes.
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They are falling behind on hardware, yet Samsung gets destroyed by Apple in benchmarks on every comparable product. You guys crack me up.
 
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maflynn said:
I don't think anyone is going to say he's done a bad job managing what Apple has to offer. His strength lies in the business aspect. The questions arise about his ability to lead others to innovate.
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He's done a bad job of managing what Apple has to offer. Eleven figure bank account, what do we get? A fragmenting product line that leaves most of their core business to rot. But hey... Watch bands!

Also, he's filling some huge shoes, and replacing a legend, as he replaced Jobs, means he'll be unfairly compared to S. Jobs.
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It's not an unfair comparison. He knew the role he was stepping into. If he couldn't fill the shoes, he shouldn't have ever laced 'em up in the first place. He held a privilege most executives can only dream of: Being taught on the job by the master himself, Steve Jobs. And what has he done with this great gift? It's been a mix of "staying the course" and reverting back to bean-counter mode at times.

He's unlocked his cash and has his golden parachute waiting for him.

Leave already.
 
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