Tim Cook Remembers Steve Jobs on 8th Anniversary of His Death

[ani4ani]

You speak in a way where you’re speaking for other people. Stop. Who cares if their stores look nice? Uhh a lot of people...

Apple Stores aren’t busy and aren’t interesting? Again, stop. You have no evidence of it and just don’t know what you’re talking about.

Maybe you should invest less time in Apple since they’re so disappointing and underwhelming. What a joke.
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oh dear, you really have got yourself into a lather. Somebody has a different opinion to you and you can’t deal with it, so you are rude and just say stop? I’m not criticising your religion (or am I?) so calm down and open your mind to others opinions. Let’s be honest, you know no better than me or anyone else, you’re just spouting your opinion (aggressively)

 

[newyorksole]

oh dear, you really have got yourself into a lather. Somebody has a different opinion to you and you can’t deal with it, so you are rude and just say stop? I’m not criticising your religion (or am I?) so calm down and open your mind to others opinions. Let’s be honest, you know no better than me or anyone else, you’re just spouting your opinion (aggressively)

Lol bro you’re stating your opinions like they’re facts, not me. My mind is open. Yours isn’t. You literally said Apple Stores were busier 5 years ago, they aren’t interesting and don’t look good. I’d say those are very irrational and unintelligent opinions (that your trying to pass off as fact).

What you’re stating does not lineup with reality. Therefore... Stop.

 

[Peperino]

How pathetic innovation has turned in Apple under Tim Cook.
He only does basic incremental updates that have pathetic entry specs in the entire computer line up.

It is extremely sad to see how the entire computer line up has been left to be the complete joke.
Upgrade cycles have become ridiculously long (Mac Mini 4 years, Mac Pro 6, etc).

MacBooks Pro 2016+ are one of the worse products Apple ever design. While other laptops already have touchscreens many years ago, Macbooks only introduced a useless Touchbar.
iPads, (recently upgraded) ship with a 64gb and still with lighting connector in 2019. Really?
Mac Minis, almost duplicated in price and ship with 8gb Ram and 128 ssd, really?
iMacs latest upgrade still ship with 5400 rpm in 2019?? Really?

The entire computer line up looks old, musty and way overpriced.
While both Ram and SSD prices are tanking, Apple forces you by soldering all components to upgrade at Apple and still charges obscene upgrade prices for upgrading both of them.

 

[ani4ani]

Lol bro you’re stating your opinions like they’re facts, not me. My mind is open. Yours isn’t. You literally said Apple Stores were busier 5 years ago, they aren’t interesting and don’t look good. I’d say those are very irrational and unintelligent opinions (that your trying to pass off as fact).

What you’re stating does not lineup with reality. Therefore... Stop.

It is a fact that Apple no longer have specialists in their store-inside a store, e.g. Currys / PCWorld (these are some of the biggest tech retailers in Europe, largely UK based). It is a fact, that Sony, MS, Panasonic, LG and Samsung still do. It is my opinion that Apple stores are certainly quieter than they used to be. It was a fact that a few years ago, you would queue (given a ticket) to get into the typical UK Apple store, that is no longer the case. It is my opinion that the stores are dull. (For clarity, the stores themselves are in the main pretty impressive and clean; the contents and the wares are dull)

 

[chatin]

Microsoft releasing high-end products on the anniversay is no coincidence. After 45 years the Steve Jobs product formula is still secret.

 

[Defthand]

I’m giving Tim the credit for watch, AirPods and HomePod in the absence of concrete proof to the contrary. Not that it matters, I’m sure TC is not fretting about The posts that are attempting to pinpoint who was responsible for which product.

I think common sense and Apple's pattern of product development is more compelling than a lack of proof. None of Apple's products went from concept to market in the rapid timeframe you're accepting. Considering that Apple is super secretive about its explorations, they are not going to announce to competitors their research by filing for patents before a concept has been studied.

You can credit Cook for fulfilling the watch's delivery. I doubt he deserves credit for its gamble; otherwise, someone within Apple would have publicly credited him for the decision as they often did for Jobs.

Cook is a manager. I doubt he is a gambler—at least not a risk taker. Nothing unexpected or future-defining has materialized during his tenure. Airpods? A natural evolution. Homepod? Apple had a hifi speaker during the iPod era, and the current one is a Me Too product with unexceptionable abilities. Wireless charging pad? Odd that its development was acknowledged and that it was an admitted Unicorn. Apple car? Apple VR? I'll wager that we'll see another CEO at the helm when those concepts become products. Who will you credit if that happens?

Cook has no reason to care if he's not personally recognized for Apple's continued innovations. Yet it's important to the Johnny-come-latelys who embraced Apple's brand in the post-iPod period. Cook is their brand priest. As much as they don't identify with the Jobs era, they want to believe Cook is Jobs 2.0.

 

[Defthand]

Hmmm Steve also introduced the iPad, just a larger iPhone. Barely any innovation there.

Steve also introduced the iPod Touch, just a stripped down iPhone. Barely any innovation there.

You guys really think that Steve did everything perfectly and everything was just peachy and perfect when he was alive.

No, he wasn't perfect. However, everything you love about Apple products can be attributed to his standards.

FYI, the iPad was conceived before the iPhone. They delayed the iPad to focus on a phone device using the iPad's technology. What's more remarkable, is that much of the current abilities in Apple's consumer hardware was imagined by Apple in the 1980's, including Siri! Check out this concept film that Apple made back then:

Many of the software abilities you take for granted—and think are current inventions—were conceived by an Apple research team called the Advanced Technology Group (1986–1997). Some of their inventions, like Street View and Stacks, weren't implemented until recently. Here's a fascinating account of the group's innovations: https://www.fastcompany.com/90176202/how-apples-advanced-technology-group-changed-our-world

 

[I7guy]

I think common sense and Apple's pattern of product development is more compelling than a lack of proof. None of Apple's products went from concept to market in the rapid timeframe you're accepting. Considering that Apple is super secretive about its explorations, they are not going to announce to competitors their research by filing for patents before a concept has been studied.

You can credit Cook for fulfilling the watch's delivery. I doubt he deserves credit for its gamble; otherwise, someone within Apple would have publicly credited him for the decision as they often did for Jobs.

Cook is a manager. I doubt he is a gambler—at least not a risk taker. Nothing unexpected or future-defining has materialized during his tenure. Airpods? A natural evolution. Homepod? Apple had a hifi speaker during the iPod era, and the current one is a Me Too product with unexceptionable abilities. Wireless charging pad? Odd that its development was acknowledged and that it was an admitted Unicorn. Apple car? Apple VR? I'll wager that we'll see another CEO at the helm when those concepts become products. Who will you credit if that happens?

Cook has no reason to care if he's not personally recognized for Apple's continued innovations. Yet it's important to the Johnny-come-latelys who embraced Apple's brand in the post-iPod period. Cook is their brand priest. As much as they don't identify with the Jobs era, they want to believe Cook is Jobs 2.0.

You said it yourself, Apple is super secretive. That means any guess about how long it takes to get a product out the door is a guess. Not even an educated guess. So watch, homepods , AirPods design could have been started post 2011.

I’m sure Steve and tim discussed accessories and these types of things came up. The question is when did actual design start.

Yes, I believe Cook will have a successor and who will you credit when the successor gets products out the door(even ones that aren’t revolutionary or earth shattering). Steve Jobs? Many people are stuck like a broken record at the Steve Jobs era, yet it’s probably not the core of hardcore Apple fans that catapulted Apple towards trillion dollars. And it seems for some it’s important for the so-called core fans to discredit cook as much as possible, in the new post-Jobs Apple era. Cook is the captain that is seemingly taking Apple where jobs couldn’t.

Cook isnt Jobs 2 and maybe that’s a positive but he combines the best of Jobs and the best of Cook and Apple is better off for it.

And by the way what did jobs do, invent a new cell phone that was popular? And a new form factor tablet, where tablets already existed? And yes I agree the tablet was popular.

 

[Jon Rowlison]

...Tim is Boss now and Apple is a Billion Dollar Company...

Just a typo, but it's (on a good day) a TRILLION dollar company. On an unrelated note... if we're going to remember someone, I'd rather remember their birthday instead of the day they died. In any case... Steve, you're missed.

 

[Defthand]

You said it yourself, Apple is super secretive. That means any guess about how long it takes to get a product out the door is a guess. Not even an educated guess.

On the contrary. We have historical accounts of what the development process was typically like for Apple's products that came to fruition. Have you even read the Jobs bio or interviews with former product developers? Are you even aware of the ATG group from the mid 80's to late 90's who conceived many of the software abilities you are just now seeing? You'd learn that making tech ideas a reality takes much longer than One assumes. To think that the development process is suddenly more efficient or less complicated under Cook is naive, especially since Cook is admittedly not personally involved in the process or overly demanding. You think they went from the watch's concept to final design in 16 months, in time for them to spend the next two years making production and marketing arrangements?

I’m sure Steve and tim discuss accessories and these came up.

An educated guess?

Many people are stuck like a broken record at the Steve Jobs era, yet it’s probably not the core of hardcore Apple fans that catapulted Apple towards trillion dollars. And it seems for some it’s important for the so-called core fans to discredit cook as much as possible, in the new post-Jobs Apple era. Cook is the captain that is seemingly taking Apple where jobs couldn’t.

Those aware of the Job's era understand how his philosophy defined the brand's appeal. The fans was different then. We were primarily interested in how Apple's core products served us professionally. You have different expectations when you spend twice as much on a Mac that had limited compatibility with the larger world's Windows PC-verse. Consumers understandably were wary of Apple's offerings for that reason. Apple's consumer-level products didn't gain momentum until Apple introduced the iPod. Joe Public came for the iPod and stayed for the iPhone. Only then did they discover the benefits of an elegant UX/UI.

Cook didn't steer or inspire Apple's meteoric draw on consumers. The iDevices attracted them and the effect snowballed.

And by the way what did jobs do, invent a new cell phone that was popular. And a new form factor tablet, where tablets already existed?

Yes and yes. Imagine that he, or no one else, had done those two things (Which are just a snippet of the ideas that he championed). What would Cook be left to promote? What products would deserve your fandom?

 

[I7guy]

On the contrary. We have historical accounts of what the development process was typically like for Apple's products that came to fruition. Have you even read the Jobs bio or interviews with former product developers? Are you even aware of the ATG group from the mid 80's to late 90's who conceived many of the software abilities you are just now seeing? You'd learn that making tech ideas a reality takes much longer than One assumes. To think that the development process is suddenly more efficient or less complicated under Cook is naive, especially since Cook is admittedly not personally involved in the process or overly demanding. You think they went from the watch's concept to final design in 16 months, in time for them to spend the next two years making production and marketing arrangements?




An educated guess?



Those aware of the Job's era understand how his philosophy defined the brand's appeal. The fans was different then. We were primarily interested in how Apple's core products served us professionally. You have different expectations when you spend twice as much on a Mac that had limited compatibility with the larger world's Windows PC-verse. Consumers understandably were wary of Apple's offerings for that reason. Apple's consumer-level products didn't gain momentum until Apple introduced the iPod. Joe Public came for the iPod and stayed for the iPhone. Only then did they discover the benefits of an elegant UX/UI.

Cook didn't steer or inspire Apple's meteoric draw on consumers. The iDevices attracted them and the effect snowballed.



Yes and yes. Imagine that he, or no one else, had done those two things (Which are just a snippet of the ideas that he championed). What would Cook be left to promote? What products would deserve your fandom?

Well then this should be easy. When was the Apple Watch first talked about. Design started? Manufacturing started? How about AirPods, homepods? Exact dates. You can’t provide that infonobody here who isn’t on the inside track, can say for certainty.

Cook was the enabler of the iPhone 6. Jobs never wanted a bigger phone.

Times have changed, Apple has changed with the times.