Tim Cook Remembers Steve Jobs on 8th Anniversary of His Death

[koruki]

These people don't care about Apple or Steve Jobs. They are just riding on the coat tails of history. Here's the evidence.

Apple under Steve Jobs
Laptops and desktops as fast or faster than PCs
Laptops and desktops becoming more affordable and competitively priced
OS X faster and more bug free than Windows
Bugs fixed quickly
Updates to Power Mac/Mac Pro regularly
Operating systems not called 'GM' when they are rough beta
Wide choice of industry standard and third party hardware upgrades
Slower and high quality release cycles
Industry standard graphics APIs with similar performance as PCs
Serve users first and then shareholders

Apple after Steve Jobs
Throttling **** badly designed laptops
T2 disaster controller /sound chip with bugs that Apple won't even acknowledge
macOS slower than Windows in every possible way
Bugs fixed after 10000 complaints from users
Almost impossible to upgrade anything
Much slower graphics APIs and GPU performance than PCs
New operating systems released in poor condition
Updates to Mac Pro after 6 years and it is massively slow crap compared to even a $2000 PC
Apps and services worse than the competition
Serve shareholders first and screw users

They won't change until we stop buying. The problem isn't just Apple. The tech industry is abusive. They don't care if their services make life expensive and hard for common working people. If Uber slows traffics and increases pollution or if AirBNB or WeWork makes rent unaffordable, they don't give a damn. They just want to fill their pockets up. Then politicians see the tech industry getting away with these abuses and think....hey we can do that too.

not to mention Steve had the balls to tell boards and shareholders to F(*& off, now its all lets sponser this and that, lets wear diff colour tshirts to celebrate a day for every damn dog cat tree and leaf

 

[ani4ani]

iCloud came out when Steve was alive. Services were a thing when Steve was alive. The BarclaysCard was a thing when Steve was alive. High prices were a thing when Steve was alive.

You and other people make it seem like Apple is a totally different company now, when in fact the company is extremely similar to how it was when Steve was alive.

They don’t care about the customer? Meanwhile Apple Stores are more profitable and better looking than ever before. Please give it a rest. Apple is doing just fine. Get over it.

You get over yourself and don’t be so arrogant. At no time did I say Apple was not doing fine, or whether their stores look nice or not (who gives a toss about that). It is how they are doing fine that matters now and that is very different these days.

if you want to talk about their stores and their stores-inside-stores then I would say (at least in my part of the UK), they are no where near as busy or interesting as they were even 5 years ago. There was a time you could barely move in their stores, nothing like that these days. As for their stores inside PC World / Currys, they are totally uninhabited these days; they don’t even have the Apple “specialists/geniuses“ in the stores any more.

 

[mejsric]

every year on 8 years Apple is doomed again.

 

[JustForward]

Other than significant extra cost and resulting price.

It would still be an ergonomic disaster except for the occasional use. I enjoy using my iPads. And I enjoy using my Macs. Drawing on a Mac display that's pretty much perpendicular to the table its sitting on for even moderate periods of time would be awful. I think Jobs understood that early on.

It won't have an ergonomic problem if the mac display is more flexible.

 

[pika2000]

You get over yourself and don’t be so arrogant. At no time did I say Apple was not doing fine, or whether their stores look nice or not (who gives a toss about that). It is how they are doing fine that matters now and that is very different these days.

if you want to talk about their stores and their stores-inside-stores then I would say (at least in my part of the UK), they are no where near as busy or interesting as they were even 5 years ago. There was a time you could barely move in their stores, nothing like that these days. As for their stores inside PC World / Currys, they are totally uninhabited these days; they don’t even have the Apple “specialists/geniuses“ in the stores any more.

Yeah, in UK, because your region is not a growth region.
Go to Apple stores in Asia like Singapore or Japan, they're packed to the gills. Apple even opened up more stores in those countries despite the well known ultra expensive real estates.

 

[bpeeps]

You like the user friendliness. You can't honestly say to us long term users that you like being shafted with bugs, poor designs, throttling, increasing profit margins, slow GPU performance. You said yourself 'My family and I'. Home user with disposable income. Users like you don't experience the downsides. You are not one of the hardcore users who demand better.

“hardcore users” should demand better yet purchasing competing products.
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There would had never been a notch.

Or a phone bigger than 4”

 

[furou]

I think the biggest difference for me is that Steve Jobs had a clear and focused vision of what Apple’s customers wanted and how to design products that will just work to achieve those things. Like he said, design is in how something works.
The customers want to listen to music - boom iPod and iTunes. Customers want to take videos and photos and share them, boom final cut, iMovie, etc. Customers are unhappy with mobile phones - iPhone.
In addition, Steve Jobs gave the feeling that he was super invested in the products and used them. I mean the guy spent 10 minutes in several keynotes demoing how cool macOS’s transitions and animations were. I don’t see this happening anymore in keynotes. It’s like none of them use the products, explain why they are great or show how much they love using them.

 

[norbinhouston]

I miss Steve.

 

[I7guy]

Apple biggest problem is that Tim cook isn't interested about shipping a stellar product or have better features than the competitors.

It’s not a problem, because the statement isn’t true.

 

[kemal]

I would have released the iPhone "SE2" in the form of an iPhone 4, with 4.7" screen, on the 5th.

 

[UK-MacAddict]

The analogy to me is meaningless, Apple is not a biological child. Apple has to change with the times and TC is making sure that is happening.

There is nothing wrong in changing with the times. It’s how you go about it.

 

[groove-agent]

That has been asked and answered. Many times.

I would never want a Mac OS on touch screen for these reasons:
* fingerprints on my monitor
* your hands get in the way when you're trying to see objects on the screen
* pain in the ass to constantly be lifting your arms to touch the screen on an iMac (for example)

Mouse and keyboard are just much more efficient.

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

No, inventor is the right word. 458 patents so far, 141 of which have been awarded posthumously.

Steve Jobs Lives on at the Patent Office

Years after his death, the former Apple CEO still wins patents.

www.technologyreview.com

Why is it so important for you to pretend Jobs wasn’t an inventor? Really interested in your reasoning for that.

Paying lip service, nothing more, do you really think a rank and file hardware designer on the shop floor is gonna be awarded a patent!! All ip is under ownership of apple!! Same as every other firm. Hence jobs got the patent!!
What did seth rogan say in the jobs movie.. you dont design hardware, you dont write software, what the hell do you do?

I'll tell you, hes a salesman!!!! The end!!!!

 

[groove-agent]

I miss Steve. Those were the exciting times at Apple. Steve had balls, Tim seems more of a "yes man".

I didn't like the first few years when Tim took over. There were very little Mac refreshes and the keyboard issues with the MBPs were a joke. I actually bought a Dell laptop during that time and hackintoshed it. However within 6 months I bought a 2015 refurbished (in 2017) and went back to Mac.

Now I'm fairly happy with Apple and feel they're getting back on track. They've refreshed the Mac mini, Mac Pro (although it's outside the realm of affordability for most). I'm super impressed with iOS 13 running on my iPhone 6s - one of the best iOS updates ever. I was waiting for things such as the "always on" Apple Watch, mouse and external drive support for iPad and now they're here.

What I would like to see:

* less expensive phones - I won't pay $1000 for a phone unless I can hook up a keyboard, mouse and monitor to it and use it like a computer
* fix iPad OS which is completely unintuitive
* reduce bezel size on MBP, iMac
* merge Mac OS/ iPad OS/ iPhone OS. Just one OS please!

 

[Tivoli_]

Steve Jobs' enduring love was for Apple as if it were his firstborn. It was his top priority, aside from his family, and nothing came in-between.
Tim Cook not so much. He is busy with other things!

 

[citysnaps]

I would never want a Mac OS on touch screen for these reasons:
* fingerprints on my monitor
* your hands get in the way when you're trying to see objects on the screen
* pain in the ass to constantly be lifting your arms to touch the screen on an iMac (for example)

Mouse and keyboard are just much more efficient.

Agree on the above. And...holding your arm extended parallel the table the computer is sitting on is fatiguing - even for just a minute.

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

I miss Steve. Those were the exciting times at Apple. Steve had balls, Tim seems more of a "yes man".

I didn't like the first few years when Tim took over. There were very little Mac refreshes and the keyboard issues with the MBPs were a joke. I actually bought a Dell laptop during that time and hackintoshed it. However within 6 months I bought a 2015 refurbished (in 2017) and went back to Mac.

Now I'm fairly happy with Apple and feel they're getting back on track. They've refreshed the Mac mini, Mac Pro (although it's outside the realm of affordability for most). I'm super impressed with iOS 13 running on my iPhone 6s - one of the best iOS updates ever. I was waiting for things such as the "always on" Apple Watch, mouse and external drive support for iPad and now they're here.

What I would like to see:

* less expensive phones - I won't pay $1000 for a phone unless I can hook up a keyboard, mouse and monitor to it and use it like a computer
* fix iPad OS which is completely unintuitive
* reduce bezel size on MBP, iMac
* merge Mac OS/ iPad OS/ iPhone OS. Just one OS please!

Touch wont work on an iMac EVER!!!

 

[rgbrock1]

Tim Cook isn’t the technological visionary Jobs was, but nobody else is either. And to be fair, there have been many products I have loved since Jobs passed like the iPhone 5S, 6S Plus, 7 Plus and my XR. I love my iPad Pro and the three Apple Watches I’ve had as well. They are still making some truly great products and industry leading hardware in spite of the loss of Jobs 8 years ago.

I agree. But you have to admit that none of the Apple products you listed are revolutionary but evolutionary. Steve was at the helm when those evolutions were implemented: the first iPhone, the first iMac, the first iPad, etc. The only product which Tim Apple came up with was the Apple Watch. Steve Jobs was a revolutionary. Tim Cook is an evolutionary. Big difference.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

I can only imagine what Apple would be today if Steve hadn't been taken so early.

Yeah! We wouldn't have that darn Apple Pencil, all those damn hippies drawin' and paintin' and stuff.

 

[Defthand]

The only product which Tim Apple came up with was the Apple Watch.

It's possible the watch was conceived while Jobs was living. Jobs passed in October 2011. The first patent application for the watch was February 2013—only sixteen months after. According to Patently Apple, the watch had been in development for some time prior to the application. Considering the watch's sophistication, it was likely years in development.

Wouldn't surprise me if Bluetooth earbuds (Airpods) were also being studied before Cook's promotion.

 

[I7guy]

It's possible the watch was conceived while Jobs was living. Jobs passed in October 2011. The first patent application for the watch was February 2013—only sixteen months after. According to Patently Apple, the watch had been in development for some time prior to the application. Considering the watch's sophistication, it was likely years in development.

Wouldn't surprise me if Bluetooth earbuds (Airpods) were also being studied before Cook's promotion.

I’m giving Tim the credit for watch, AirPods and HomePod in the absence of concrete proof to the contrary. Not that it matters, I’m sure TC is not fretting about The posts that are attempting to pinpoint who was responsible for which product.

 

[Neepman]

The only thing Tim Cook has achieved at apple in last 8 years is a healthy stock price.

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

It's possible the watch was conceived while Jobs was living. Jobs passed in October 2011. The first patent application for the watch was February 2013—only sixteen months after. According to Patently Apple, the watch had been in development for some time prior to the application. Considering the watch's sophistication, it was likely years in development.

Wouldn't surprise me if Bluetooth earbuds (Airpods) were also being studied before Cook's promotion.

There were dozens of smartwatches on the market when AW dropped, barely innovative by Tim or any apple exec really to decide to make one. Programme brief, make it look like a small iphone with a simplified os, the end.

 

[Abazigal]

Apple biggest problem is that Tim cook isn't interested about shipping a stellar product or have better features than the competitors.

Depends on what you think that product is.

For me, it’s the whole ecosystem, and in this regard, Tim Cook seems to be going a fair good job of adding value to the whole platform via additional services and accessories.

 

[newyorksole]

You get over yourself and don’t be so arrogant. At no time did I say Apple was not doing fine, or whether their stores look nice or not (who gives a toss about that). It is how they are doing fine that matters now and that is very different these days.

if you want to talk about their stores and their stores-inside-stores then I would say (at least in my part of the UK), they are no where near as busy or interesting as they were even 5 years ago. There was a time you could barely move in their stores, nothing like that these days. As for their stores inside PC World / Currys, they are totally uninhabited these days; they don’t even have the Apple “specialists/geniuses“ in the stores any more.

You speak in a way where you’re speaking for other people. Stop. Who cares if their stores look nice? Uhh a lot of people...

Apple Stores aren’t busy and aren’t interesting? Again, stop. You have no evidence of it and just don’t know what you’re talking about.

Maybe you should invest less time in Apple since they’re so disappointing and underwhelming. What a joke.
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There were dozens of smartwatches on the market when AW dropped, barely innovative by Tim or any apple exec really to decide to make one. Programme brief, make it look like a small iphone with a simplified os, the end.

Hmmm Steve also introduced the iPad, just a larger iPhone. Barely any innovation there.

Steve also introduced the iPod Touch, just a stripped down iPhone. Barely any innovation there.

You guys really think that Steve did everything perfectly and everything was just peachy and perfect when he was alive.