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Umm, am I the first one on this thread to say THANK YOU??!? I'm from San Antonio, have been in a flood, and am completely devastated that my state is in crisis right now.
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Thank you Apple! Makes me proud to be an iPhone user!
 
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Slap a million of your own money on the top Tim!! It's just pocket change with the kind of salary you get!
 
The Governor of Texas has asked people to donate to the Red Cross.
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Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates are the richest men in the world. How much have they donated?

Bill and his wife since he left Microsoft have dedicated their lives to helping others, fighting aids in third world countries etc, so yes he could donate money and may of done so already, but he is very charitable in other ways.

Amazon has donated.

http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=16927...&pf_rd_p=f5354663-e60d-4326-981f-34b71d7dc1e8

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/
 
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It always baffles me that hundred-billion dollar corporations take pride in asking common people to give $5.

Why couldn't Apple donate 5 million dollars themselves? What's that amount to them?

Last time I heard is that they were close to a TRILLION dollar company in less than 18 months? Probably less than a year now? I mean that's basically 1,000 x $1 billion to be a Trillion dollars. So, yeah, 1 Billion could be spared. They wouldn't feel it. They have, what, $850 Billion? Mind boggling to think of. 850,000 x $1 million. That's a lot of money to be had. not sure if some or most are liquid, though. But yeah, $3 mill is pennies.
 
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Slap a million of your own money on the top Tim!! It's just pocket change with the kind of salary you get!
What an ignorant post; you haven't a clue if Tim Cook has donated anything but here you are thinking you have the right to tell another what to do with their money.
 
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Tim Cook could have rummaged around in his pockets for loose change and brought out a million... what a pile of hypocritical b.s. this announcement is. Apple execs could double/triple/quadruple? this with a week's remuneration each... but hey, I guess mansions don't come cheap in the Bay Area. Anyone who falls for this virtue-signalling is a sap.
Tell us about your charitable efforts.
 
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This thread quickly devolved into a criticism of the Red Cross - which is valid I guess, since it sounds like they deserve it.

But regardless where Apple channeled their money, I'm with a bunch of others here who is kind of stunned by small amount (relatively speaking) Apple is donating. As someone on the first page noted, 3 million bucks is about an hours worth of profit for Apple. It almost surprises me that Apple isn't too embarassed to even annouce this.
 
I know, you don't want to believe that what they wrote is true. I don't want to believe it either.

Sadly however, it is true. The Red Cross is awful. NPR and ProPublica have done numerous stories documenting the extreme waste.

Here's an entire series of stories: https://www.propublica.org/series/red-cross

Just on the basis of my own experience of trying to get a replacement Blood Donor card and my online account fixed, the criticism of ARC rings true.

I can tell you everyone I spoke to pretended to be take charge and was going to fix my problems but in the end, after many calls and much time and effort expended on my part, I still don’t have an updated card or access to my (now seemingly deleted online account.)

Crazy thing was each time over the course of a couple years, I kept getting the same excuse if “we just installed a new system...”

In the end, I got myself escalated to an exec to make a complaint and he wasn’t apologetic, didn’t really seem to care and tried to point me back down organization for help.
 
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Tell us about your charitable efforts.

Nice equivication. Tim Cook is one of the richest men on the planet, the poster surely is not.

You remind me of the guy watching sports with friends when they complain about any bad play, and he says 'let's see you do any better'.

Hey, I got one for you: a guy gets drunk and plows into a family of 5 and kills them. You say "Tell me you've never gotten drunk ... or had a mishap with your car."
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News about a good thing: apple donated 3 million dollars

Response: heyyyyy you didn't donate enough millions!

Jesus man...

Why this deserves criticism: If I donated 3 cents and made an announcement about it, you would laugh at me. Guess what > relatively speaking, 3 cents to me is MORE to me than 3 million is to Apple.

So yea, the ribbing of them is justified.
 
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Nice equivication. Tim Cook is one of the richest men on the planet, the poster surely is not.

You remind me of the guy watching sports with friends when they complain about any bad play, and he says 'let's see you do any better'.

Hey, I got one for you: a guy gets drunk and plows into a family of 5 and kills them. You say "Tell me you've never gotten drunk ... or had a mishap with your car."
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Why this deserves criticism: If I donated 3 cents and made an announcement about it, you would laugh at me. Guess what > relatively speaking, 3 cents to me is MORE to me than 3 million is to Apple.

So yea, the ribbing of them is justified.
Then why don't they just not donate anything and not announce that? 3 million is 3 million more than I donated. 3 million more than they were even required to donate. Nothing said that they had to or were obligated. The state of society we are in when donating to charity has become a pissing contest among users on the internet looking for reasons to be upset about something.
 
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All those untaxed $$$$$ Tim, donate some to Red Cross as a tax deduction ;)
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Then why don't they just not donate anything and not announce that? 3 million is 3 million more than I donated. 3 million more than they were even required to donate. Nothing said that they had to or were obligated. The state of society we are in when donating to charity has become a pissing contest among users on the internet looking for reasons to be upset about something.

Thing is, apple has not donated anything , they set up a capture form ;) or should I say, turned on the existing one .

I have no issues with apple doing this, they have a wide reach when it comes to a user base that tends to have more funds.... my only concern is Red Cross , I would not donate to them as thier % is not great. When donating shop around and make sure most of your money is going to help people and not into admin fees. Red Cross is more of a business these days
 
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All those untaxed $$$$$ Tim, donate some to Red Cross as a tax deduction ;)
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Thing is, apple has not donated anything , they set up a capture form ;) or should I say, turned on the existing one .

I have no issues with apple doing this, they have a wide reach when it comes to a user base that tends to have more funds.... my only concern is Red Cross , I would not donate to them as thier % is not great. When donating shop around and make sure most of your money is going to help people and not into admin fees. Red Cross is more of a business these days
I'm a bit confused here. So Apple hasn't donated anything. People have. So people are criticizing apple Hosting a donation page basically and not donating Anything?
 
How about the same percentage of your own net income as Bill Gates donated? .

I'm not the one to whom you were originally trying to derail, but if you think about this statement--Bill Gates could give up 90% of his net income and still be better off than almost anyone else out there. I'm guessing the OP (and for that matter, most people) can't easily give up a similar percentage of their income.

It's not about giving a percentage, but giving what you can.

If everyone donated a single dollar when a national disaster struck, there would be a lot of money donated. Unfortunately we rely on big donations from a few, rather than small donations from the many.
 
Slap another $3 million from Apple's bank account on top of that and I think we can call it a day.

It always baffles me that hundred-billion dollar corporations take pride in asking common people to give $5.

Why couldn't Apple donate 5 million dollars themselves? What's that amount to them?


I love it when people dictate how others should distribute their money.
 
True. The Red Cross is not the best, but they are around 90% getting to the local chapters. Texas specifically requested that the Red Cross be the central donation recipient. Hence, Apple's program was set up with the Red Cross. :apple:

https://www.propublica.org/article/red-cross-ceo-has-been-misleading-about-donations

Despite their false claims to the contrary, the Red Cross HQ does NOT forward 90% of donations. It pays itself about 27% - plus further 9% "admin fee" when distributing funds to other relief organisations. Wow!

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-30/skip-the-red-cross-when-helping-harvey-s-victims?cmpid==socialflow-twitter-view
 
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According to some MR forum members, rather than raising millions, Apple should have done nothing just like Amazon, Google, Uber and everyone else in the tech world.

Disgusting.
 
It always baffles me that hundred-billion dollar corporations take pride in asking common people to give $5.

Why couldn't Apple donate 5 million dollars themselves? What's that amount to them?

Because the little guy always has to pay - those are the rules. Joking aside I would like to see big organisations like Apple match, or even double, the contribution made by the public. They can afford to do it and can offset it against tax in a lot of countries.
 
sorry but the Red Cross is a scam. Would never donate a penny to them. I'd rather find local charities to give to.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/16/48202...fundamental-concerns-about-red-cross-finances

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/05/30/u...eth-dole-red-cross-2-powers-work.html?mcubz=1
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According to some MR forum members, rather than raising millions, Apple should have done nothing just like Amazon, Google, Uber and everyone else in the tech world.

Disgusting.

No, that's not what people are saying. I'm saying (because I don't speak for others) Apple is a trillion dollar company it's silly that they are begging US for $5 donations when THEY could easily write them a $20 or $40 million check. Donated $3 million (that won't do much at all) is purely a cheap PR stunt to show they "care," and make the donation all about THEM. Kind of like Trump's visit. It's not a true altruistic move on their part. Look at someone like Bill and Melinda or Buffet, they give away BILLIONS to charity without shamelessly patting themselves on the back for doing so.
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The most valuable company in the world should not be donating money given by other people, they should be giving it out of their own pockets and it should be more than 2 million. Hell, even Sandra Bullock donated 1 million! It's true that something is better than nothing, but their contribution is beyond stingy.
 
I'm a bit confused here. So Apple hasn't donated anything. People have. So people are criticizing apple Hosting a donation page basically and not donating Anything?

The damages from the storm are estimated to be close to $100 billion. Apple's donations won't do anything to help those in need.

The one trillion dollar company, one of the richest in the history of the world, treats one of the worst storms of the century as nothing more than a PR event while society yet again gets to foot the bill.

It's despicable.
 
Shame the Red Cross is so corrupted in its Monopoly-Like controll of aid in the States... and waste and stealing of funds to divert to other causes (and pockets)... There are so many other options with more integrity in the system. Not that they don't do some good, they just do a lot of skimming off the MILLIONS and MILLIONS they collect.

do the research you'll see.
 
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