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I don't understand these ridiculous monopoly claims. It's like people are allergic to success. Any time a company rises to the top, it's only attributed to malice instead of success. Obviously there are exceptions, but Apple just makes computers and phones (that aren't even market dominant).
 
So Cook said he is passing on the costs if Trump adds a tariff that affects iPhones. Interesting. I guess it is similar how iOS devs pass on the apple tax to their customers.

Of course Apple isn't going to suck it up for their loyal US customers…

Even after 2 decades of directly benefiting from cheap Chinese labor and trade disparities that favor the company's bottom line.
 
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Just another example of how capitalism is broken as more and more people are pointing out these days. A corporation sees its first foremost and only obligation is to its share holders, NOT THE CUSTOMER.
It just asks for trouble and will end in disaster one day. I could blame the board and the CEOs like Cook, but then again share holders can fire the CEO so it’s kinda in your interest to please them, plus the obscene amount of your own companies share your usually paid as a CEO..
It’s a system purely geared around greed and will collapse on itself one day..

I would though like to see Craig as Apples CEO and ditch Cook, but I’ll let them off as the keynote was awesome with iOS being really really interesting.. and the new Mac Pro is a true list after machine.. ignoring the stupid stand that is.
 
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That's fine and all but what about these really expensive products?

I hope Apple can make products and lower price points for regular consumers.

Like a display that doesn't cost $6,000

A display that is 27" for $1,299 retina quality would be great.
You can always buy the lg display or you don’t like it because it doesn’t have an Apple logo on it
 
That's fine and all but what about these really expensive products?

I hope Apple can make products and lower price points for regular consumers.

Like a display that doesn't cost $6,000

A display that is 27" for $1,299 retina quality would be great.

The display is targeted at the professional market. They've come up with something extraordinarily incredible at a price that will hurt a lot of their rivals in the creative space.

iMac is the solution if you want a 27" retina quality display.
 
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But... Apple doesn't have any control of the Google or other Android stores.
OTOH, Play Store is the official Android app store. However, Android allows for other stores such as Amazon's app store. Side-loading of apps is also possible.
 
And apple has 100% of the current iOS app stores market. No other company runs an iOS app store.

No they do not. Most of The products in the store are not sold by Apple. Many apps there do NOT share profits with Apple.
 
There's also nothing stopping people from buying an android device and using the google play store to download apps.

THIS! If someone, be it a consumer or company, doesn't like the terms of the company they want to do business with then it's quite simple - don't use them. Don't go into that store or buy from that company.

Don't like it? Then build your own service/company/product and do it yourself. Or go to another store.

BUT we live in a society where people get offended easy and if they don't like something, it's someone else's fault or that person/company isn't allowed do whatever it is they do. (Yes...not everyone in our society is like that so it's a generalization, but it sure seems to be a sad theme these days).

Cheers,
Brian
 
I think the only thing they are a monopoly on is forcing software choices on the phone.. their should be the option for another app store imo (And yes I know people have the choice to go to Android), people should have more choice on what they put on their device just like a PC/Mac though. They can bitch and moan about reason why consumers shouldn't have a choice, but really its an issue that can be solved. At the end of the day, if I want to use Siri or Google as my assistant, that should be my choice as long as the 3rd party integrates with the phone properly, but all Apple would have to do is open the API's to those components and it could easily be done.
 
Tim Cook was the worst choice ever. Apple has failed to innovate since the passing of Steve Jobs.

Apple Watch
iPad Pro
Apple Pencil 1 and 2
iPad Pro keyboard (the way it connects)
Airpods
Touch ID
Face ID
Apple Pay
HomePod (SJ had a less than successful speaker himself)
Swift
Apple Music (quickly ascending to number 2 spot in streaming)
Slim Unibody iMac.


All of the above products were created with Tim at the helm. The iPhone, iPad, and mouse were once in a lifetime inventions. Any company would love to have even one of them, Apple has three of them. for those who would argue that some of the above products weren't unique to Apple, with the exception of the mouse, the iPhone and iPad weren't first in their categories either.
 
I strongly disagree with that. I think some people would argue, if you are selling a good, then you can't have a product that competes with that good. And I-- I think that's part of what is being argued there. But that-- that's an argument that takes you down the path that, Walmart shouldn't be stocking alternative or house brand. And so this is decades of-- of-- U.S. law here. But I think scrutiny is good, and we'll tell our story to anybody that we need to or that-- that wants to hear it. I-- I feel very confident in-- in our position.
Do— do we need to— to quote even his— his pauses? It— it doesn’t help me understand what— what he’s saying. If— if I wanted to have the full— full speaking experience, I’d— I’d watch the— the interview.
 
All of the above products were created with Tim at the helm. The iPhone, iPad, and mouse were once in a lifetime inventions. Any company would love to have even one of them, Apple has three of them. for those who would argue that some of the above products weren't unique to Apple, with the exception of the mouse, the iPhone and iPad weren't first in their categories either.
I often question whether people truly believe he hasn't innovated or it's because they don't like the fact he's a homosexual but use that parroted line as some excuse. Even Steve Jobs ****ed up at times.
 
Apple has never been about making all their products “affordable” to everyone. Are you old enough to remember what the original Mac cost in 1984? It was $2,495. That’s over $6,000 in today’s dollars.
More or less agree, but comparing today's prices of tech products to those of 35 years ago is way off base. 35 years of Moore's Law - with the doubling of components per 2.5 cm diameter chip every two years commensurate with lowering costs - has made direct comparisons in pricing over several decades irrelevant. The Cray X-MP/48, the fastest computer in the world in 1984, ran at a base of $15 million sans disk storage. For an extra million you could buy eight 1.2 GB hard drives to go with it. It was, at the time, the fastest supercomputer available. It had a 105 MHz cpu clock speed of 200 Mflops per its two cpu's, and 16 MB of RAM spread across 16 banks. Let's compare that to the current base model iMac Pro: it has 8 cores of 3.2 / 4.2 GHz processor power (effectively 8 cpu's); 32 GB of RAM, not to mention its graphics processor; 1 TB SSD; its price tag is $5000.

So, the base iMac Pro has 30 / 40 times the Cray's processor speed. The iMac Pro has roughly 100 times the storage running at the latest SSD speeds. It has 2000 times more RAM than the Cray. The Cray was 3000 times as expensive as the base iMac Pro, and that becomes even more of a difference if you adjust for 35 years of inflation, and include the highly paid personnel needed to run and maintain it. Using your inflation estimate, that meant the old Cray would have run over $30 million in today's dollars. I agree with your premise, though - you get orders of magnitude more bang per buck for today's product offerings up and down the tech spec line. I still have to question the $1000 monitor stand - it's made of aluminum, not titanium. That thing is a price gouge, but with its experience getting customers to buy $1500 iPhones, Apple might as well see if it will float.

My main gripe about the Mac Pro pricing is with its base configuration. At the base level, the iMac Pro has considerably better specs, the most glaring being 4 times the base storage. The main advantage with the Mac Pro, at base level, is with its ease of upgradability and in not being an all-in-one. If you don't want the $5000 monitor with $1000 stand, you can buy another cheaper monitor configuration.
 
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And apple has 100% of the current iOS app stores market. No other company runs an iOS app store.

And Sony have 100% of the Sony PS store, and MS have 100% of the xbox store, and only Nintendo can make nintendo DS games etc.. etc.. etc..

Would be a problem if Apple was the only phone you could buy..
 
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Apple has never been about making all their products “affordable” to everyone. Are you old enough to remember what the original Mac cost in 1984? It was $2,495. That’s over $6,000 in today’s dollars.

Yeah, and... The Mac IIfx *started* at $9,000 in 1990.

People sure love to moan and whine on this forum. Why would anyone want to embarrass themselves on a public forum? Guessing it gives one the feeling of having some power, that is otherwise lacking in day-to-day life. For a wee bit of time anyway.
 
Another way to translate his comments: We have so much freaking money we don't care what litigation we have to defend ourselves against, we'll win, and we'll barely notice in the process.

Not that I really disagree with him on his assessment. This is a big hole to go down. When I start to entertain the other side and see what they actually mean by "anti-competitive", and its things like, "But you haven't made a screen time API!!" I see that it is just typical fairness whining, not true monopoly-law conversation.
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That's fine and all but what about these really expensive products?

I hope Apple can make products and lower price points for regular consumers.

Like a display that doesn't cost $6,000

A display that is 27" for $1,299 retina quality would be great.
Whaaaa fairness whaaaa.

Make more money.
 
I often question whether people truly believe he hasn't innovated or it's because they don't like the fact he's a homosexual but use that parroted line as some excuse. Even Steve Jobs ****ed up at times.
It's becoming ever more irrelevant to compare SJ with Cook. This sort of thing goes on with the sports press all the time, comparing Wilt Chamberlain/Kareem/Michael Jordan to LeBron James/Steph Curry, et al, or Joe Montana to Tom Brady. Jobs was an amazing Apple CEO and co-founder, and was almost magical in bringing Apple to life - twice. Those were different times, requiring a different kind of entrepreneural leadership than is the case now. I have mixed feelings about Cook's directions with Apple, but doubt Tim Cook could have saved Apple 22 years ago to allow it to be the success it is right now. Conversely, I don't know how Jobs might have fared in today's tech industry. He might well have been pushed out again for the sake of profit and pleasing today's share holders.
 
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That's fine and all but what about these really expensive products?

I hope Apple can make products and lower price points for regular consumers.

Like a display that doesn't cost $6,000

A display that is 27" for $1,299 retina quality would be great.

That display is designed for videographers / VFX as that it competes with $20K+ reference monitors. Reference monitors give a very high color accuracy needed in those high end fields. Computer monitors or ones used for Netflix have color enhancement features that don't make it subduable for color correction / Color grading.

If you have a problem with a 1K monitor stand, I agree.
 
That display is designed for videographers / VFX as that it competes with $20K+ reference monitors. Reference monitors give a very high color accuracy needed in those high end fields. Computer monitors or ones used for Netflix have color enhancement features that don't make it subduable for color correction / Color grading.

If you have a problem with a 1K monitor stand, I agree.


I agree with everything you've said. Except for the last sentence.

For me it's tough to have a problem with something I don't need or want. That's Apple's business. And their customers who are considering the display.
 
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