Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I'm very much a capitalist but when you make 21B PROFIT for a quarter and you do a mass layoff thats corrupt.
Glad they are not doing this.
I'm just barely a capitalist and yeah, It would be corrupt. But corruption is very large part of the system we live in now. It's as related to core capitalism as a duck is to the planet Pluto. Hedge Funds, Wall Street, investment banks, the ratings agencies committing fraud for financial products....it's laissez faire feudalism .
 
Of course he's not going to come right out and say that and start a panic.
If Cook announced a mass layoff, shares of Apple would likely rally (more so than shares did after reporting earnings today). That‘d what has been happening recently when other large tech companies have announced mass layoffs.

Laying off employees to appease short-term focused shareholders has been all the rage so far in 2023.
 
  • Like
Reactions: OS X Dude
Google made a $15B in profit last quarter ending March and is doing massive layoffs to improve the margin and boost the stock price. And as a job well done, their CEO just gave himself a hefty raise.
easiest way to push stock price up is to announce layoffs.
we live in strange world.
every one wants people to loose jobs (increase in unemployment rate) so that inflation will go down.

this is so wrong.
 
I would love once to see that a CEO and senior C leave and management who make millions year in salary take huge pay cuts in order to divert money to people so they don't have to be laid off!!! Just think how many people's jobs can be saved if someone that makes $20-30M/year said, just give me $5M or less so we can save jobs. (pun intended) So many 6 figure and less people can continue to support their families and propel the company forward during the lean times. Just imagine... We need less of "I deserve this" and more "it's about team, not me."

Tim Cook took a pay cut earlier this year.

 
Employees in Massachusetts breathe a sigh of relief, but in other states tensions remain high
 
" data-source="post: 32145070" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">
Since Tim Cook doesn’t want to leave Apple. He should consider taking another pay cut.

Credit where credit is due, the other tech giants all laid off thousands of employees while their CEO actually got raises.

 
Tim Cook is probably choosing not to lay off people not because he cares about their financial well-being, but rather because after running the math, it was discovered that keeping them will generate more profits than laying them off. Cook values profits over people.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: PantherKang
Tim Cook is probably choosing not to lay off people not because he cares about their financial well-being, but rather because after running the math, it was discovered that keeping them will generate more profits than laying them off. Cook values profits over people.
That’s capitalism for you. That’s exactly the fiduciary duty that a ceo has. Maximize profits by producing products and services people want and by strategic use of personnel to maximize their potential.
 
That’s capitalism for you. That’s exactly the fiduciary duty that a ceo has. Maximize profits by producing products and services people want and by strategic use of personnel to maximize their potential.
True, but that's not how Steve Jobs ran things. Jobs did intend for Apple to make a profit, but not maximize profits. Jobs prioritized users over profits. A few examples of that include charging lower profit margins than Tim Cook, and including various accessories in product boxes (such as extension chords, microfiber cloths, charging bricks, and headphones) instead of removing them and charging $19 for each accessory.
 
Tim Cook is probably choosing not to lay off people not because he cares about their financial well-being, but rather because after running the math, it was discovered that keeping them will generate more profits than laying them off. Cook values profits over people.

Or rather, you can’t do mass layoffs when there’s literally no excess fat in your company to trim. Apple didn’t jump on the bandwagon and hire people like no tomorrow during the pandemic, so they aren’t facing the problem that Google, Amazon and Microsoft are.
 
  • Love
Reactions: PantherKang
Having Corporate experience. Anything said today doesn't mean jack S tomorrow. LOL. Forgot to mention, some of these decisions are already made months and months ago and known by a handful of people on top.
 
Last edited:
Yep, and they have a lot more Apps that they can just stop supporting and get rid of any contractors. Oh, wait, they do that already.
 
True, but that's not how Steve Jobs ran things. Jobs did intend for Apple to make a profit, but not maximize profits. Jobs prioritized users over profits. A few examples of that include charging lower profit margins than Tim Cook, and including various accessories in product boxes (such as extension chords, microfiber cloths, charging bricks, and headphones) instead of removing them and charging $19 for each accessory.
I'm not sure I agree with "prioritized" here, but I do think Jobs had more balance. I also think he understood the future and how being greedy would affect the brand and future sales. Jobs was a visionary, Cook is really no more than a clerk that can read spreadsheets.
 
Most apple workers are contractors that have already been laid off and the forced return to office that is causing more. People seem to be too dumb to look and see that they are the same as any other company. I don’t know why people seem to shill and simp for companies all the time.
 
Last edited:
Can they not afford to pay them?
Of course they can. This is about increasing Profit and Shareholders value. Year over year. If you miss the earnings or profit goes down, shares goes down...then bad things will happen to employees usually.
 
Last edited:
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.