I am curious what the sale numbers are, and I don't want to see it fail.
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Tim Cook Says Apple Watch Set New Sales Record in First Holiday Shopping Week
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yes, but what fun would mac rumors forum be if we didn't have all these articles about doom and gloom
This. Wearables, VR, etc. they're all for niches and is not as mainstream as a smartphone for example.
Wearables target is clearly people into fitness and health. 90% of the people I know use the AW just for notifications and fitness.
VR game enthusiasts.
Home Automation has probably some potential, especially when we speak about security cameras, sound systems, etc.
In general smart watches have been hyped a lot, the market is probably already struggling (see Pebble) and I think both Apple, Smasung and Google are considering it as a complement of their ecosystem.
No, it makes Cook a smart businessman. Why in the world would any sane CEO release sales numbers on a specific product, giving valuable insight to competitors, especially in a relatively new market, allowing them to better understand market potential, and, how Apple is performing in that market.
Does Samsung and other tech companies release sales numbers for specific products? Why not? Does it make their CEOs look weak and trustworthy? If not, why not?
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Your talent for stating the obvious impresses me.
My whole point is that not everyone needs or wants smart watches. Apple may have overestimated the market, thinking most people who have iPhones would want an Apple Watch, when the truth is, not many people do.
I think Apple are playing a very clever game not releasing sales numbers. Apple are always the bar other companies compare themselves against, you only have to look at tech headlines such as 'iPhone killer' or 'Macbook Air killer' to see this. Sales of iPhones, iPads etc are always compared by other companies.
Apple could be selling a lot more Apple Watches than we think , but other companies don't know if they are doing good or bad this time because they cannot compare them selves to Apple without this missing statistic. For example if Samsung sold 1 million gear watches how will they know if they are doing well? If Apple sold 30 million Apple Watches they would know the market is there but they are doing bad, must do better. If Apple sold 2 million Apple Watches Samsung would know the market for this is not currently that great. But Samsung don't know how well Apple is doing
I wonder if there's any truth in this. After all Motorola announced they're not working on another smartwatch. I'm guessing in 2010 after the success of the iPad, most companies who had tablet failures said to themselves "What are we doing wrong?" Now competitors are saying "There's no market here."
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I like Apple! I've posted comments similar to yours and been met with "Sorry, we can post whatever we want, who are you to stop us!" So, good luck, mate.
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If they start at £200, I'd buy a 42mm for £250 and be happy.
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So would I, just to get some facts. I don't believe he's lying to the world, it's requires far less assumptions to assume he's being honest, even if he's hiding a lot of the facts.
What are their plans for productivity on iPad? Are they working on xcode and FCP X for iPad? How is the Watch really doing, compared to what they hoped/expected? How much pressure is there inside Apple to ensure the TV, the Watch, Music and Apple Pay are all as phenomenally successful as iPod, iPhone and iPad?
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If you nihilism thinks is the answer to everything, go ahead. But then please add the same comment whenever a report puts Apple in front (in the smartwatch sector, in the profit share, the laptop sales share, in the $1000+ market, etc.).
Yes, they are estimates based on partial data and markers. But in the absence of hard data, well-considered estimates is what we have to make do with. And unless proven otherwise, I consider the numbers from a well-established company like IDC that hasn't really been caught to be completely off-base for a while to be roughly accurate.
Oh you mean the way Apple released sales numbers for a specific product like the iPhone since day one?
Anyone who thinks analysts know ANYTHING is sorely misinformed. They get paid to throw darts at a board and make predictions based on speculation and luke warm info at best. What a racket.
I never saw AW as a massive, iPad style revenue generator. People clamoring for sales numbers need to come out of the basement more often. Its a product that most likely generates profits, though probably negligible in the grand scheme.
My feelings are that the watch is a product thats actually a test bed for new technologies and ideas. Using the various sensors and feedback to create user interaction and also investigate use case scenarios for iPhone and other unknown products.
In 2-3 more updates I think it will be something I would like. I'm a watch wearer yes, but also using a + sized iPhone would make good sense for simple operations. I still believe Siri should be expanded to be able to control settings and allow the user to be "hands off". But thats my opinion.
I never saw AW as a massive, iPad style revenue generator. People clamoring for sales numbers need to come out of the basement more often. Its a product that most likely generates profits, though probably negligible in the grand scheme.
My feelings are that the watch is a product thats actually a test bed for new technologies and ideas. Using the various sensors and feedback to create user interaction and also investigate use case scenarios for iPhone and other unknown products.
In 2-3 more updates I think it will be something I would like. I'm a watch wearer yes, but also using a + sized iPhone would make good sense for simple operations. I still believe Siri should be expanded to be able to control settings and allow the user to be "hands off". But thats my opinion.
Not a smart comment. You use this technique when you aren't sure what the sales/interest is going to be so it can never really be proven that it's a flop.
And? That's something Jobs started. The smartphone market has been mature for several years. There's little mystery about market dynamics and potential.
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Speaking of not smart comments. Astonishing.
Not going to address why other tech device CEOs don't release specific sales numbers? Same reason I guess.
Incorrect. since before the product was even launched cook said they wouldn't release in order to keep the data of this new market private.
By your logic every product Amazon sells, such as Echo, sucks because they won't say. Samsung too.
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First, record sales of the laptops, and now the Watch. Not fair! Yet another record for Apple is just making us trolls look sillier than ever. Not fair!
Can we take it that you are responding on behalf of said trollers?
First, record sales of the laptops, and now the Watch. Not fair! Yet another record for Apple is just making us trolls look sillier than ever. Not fair!
Is that the record for pre-orders? Where it was the first laptop to receive pre-orders..... yeah Smashed the previous record
Can we take it that you are responding on behalf of said trollers?
Utter garbage. It's an overnight billion dollar product line.
Don't quit your day job.
you are so wrong, I'll bet you don't own one, and if you did, you wouldn't leave home without it - enjoy being left behind
No - Historically Apple have released numbers when it makes them look great. When the numbers good bad, they are not mentioned / glossed over.
I have a Gear S watch. My biggest problem with it was having to charge the battery every night and it had better battery life than the Apple watch. I didn't mind the other functions such as being able to leave my phone at home and still get texts, calls and notifications from the phone on the watch. The daily need to charge the watch was annoying.
I grew up wearing watches. I was a kid in the 60s and a teen in the 70s into the early 80s. I got watches on my birthday way back when they were mechanical and was always used to having a watch on my wrist, 24/7 except when showering. I still do that today. Having to charge a watch just doesn't fit into my day and in an inconvenience to me.
As for the Gear S watch, I wore it maybe a total of six months. I still have it and it sits with it's charging cradle attached on my table next to the bed. I haven't worn it since sometime last summer.
where is that guy ?
"guys i love my apple watch blah blah blah - it's the best - changed my life "
But seriously if apple wants these to take off they need to make it essential to life
"guys i love my apple watch blah blah blah - it's the best - changed my life "
But seriously if apple wants these to take off they need to make it essential to life
He uses Number, not excel.
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I agree. I have been using iPhone. But for a watch, I want Tissot automatic. Last thing I want is to look geeky wearing a black square on my hand. I don't think smartwatches will ever come up to the level of true fashion. Definitely not a black square that remains black all the time. But that's my personal opinion.Your talent for stating the obvious impresses me.
My whole point is that not everyone needs or wants smart watches. Apple may have overestimated the market, thinking most people who have iPhones would want an Apple Watch, when the truth is, not many people do.
Keeping mum of about sales its great for now - this way Apple is free to market the product without worries about ASP/margins, etc.