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Tim Cook Says Apple Watch Set New Sales Record in First Holiday Shopping Week

Who knows how well this market will look in the future, but comments on the watch (since it was introduced) mirror those of the original iPod. If Tim is telling the truth, and sales are continuing to go up, this product may be on a similar path.

I think things will start to get real, if Apple copies past success by opening up the platform to Android devices. That said, I would hope the implementation would be better than iTunes on Windows, if they went that way.
 
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Robert.Walter said:
You totally get it. Most folks don't. Congrats!
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Wrong! even if apple don't publicly release their numbers - trust me, samsung and other big players will know thru "unofficial sources".....

There are literally thousands of apple employees who have access to those numbers... and that info does leak to parties who really want to know....
 
OllyW said:
I still don't see many about.

I guess it all depends where about in the world you live, work and socialise.
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I live in a densely populated suburban upper middle class area. Very few android users, lots of BMW's, lots of Apple Watches. Even at the burger joint near my house at least half the employees have one. I basically can't leave my house without seeing apple watches all over the place.
 
NoNothing said:
In 2008, I had a single friend with an iPhone. I had dozen of friends with a flip phone.

What is the sad point you are trying to make?
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I disregard most of what IDC and Gartner say. Good or bad for Apple.

For example, Gartners overall mobile market share data assumes people keep their iPhones for 10-11 months and throw them in the trash.
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The point I am making is that there are far more Fitbit's in the wild than Apple Watches. Which equates to more Fitbits being sold. At this moment in time, Fitbit is outselling the Apple Watch. 5 years later Fitbit may not exist and everyone may be wearing an Apple Watch. Or Fitbit may be stronger than error and the Apple Watch placed in the same sentence as the Apple Newton.

The iPhone was far superior to any phone at it's release date and defined what a smart phone should be. The Apple Watch is not the iPhone of the smart watch world! (although it wants to be and Apple wants to convince you that is it!).
 
series 2? every time I check stock they were never available, so I never knew if at all they were actually out. the product line up is also very confusing on their website when it has both in the same checkout process.
 
NoNothing said:
While Tim's comment is vague, IDC simply made up their numbers (as history has shown). They have 0 access (as in none what so ever) to the information they made up.
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Please post a link to your assertion that IDC simply "makes up their numbers".

Even if IDC numbers are not 100% accurate, the trend is - re yesterday's IDC report on Health Wearables - that Apple Watch sales are not keeping up with market growth and are falling behind.

BTW - Sell Through Rate is pretty meaningless when it comes to sales figures.
 
NoNothing said:
And you trust IDC? This is a company shown to get things wrong over and over and over again when it comes to the tech sector. For over a decade, they have been clueless on the direction of the tech sector.

And you trust their made up numbers pulled out of thin air?
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I don't trust either. I look at IDC as an estimate to what has been sold. Apple know exactly how many have been sold and don't show the figures. If the figures were amazing, they would. But as a CEO, admitting a product you invested time and money into is a flop would hit them at the stock exchange so Tim goes with a very neutral response.

I sold two things on eBay. I only had those two things. Sales exceeded my expectations, my sales were through the roof! If I told you I only had two items and sold them both, you'd be like, meh!

Generic marketing waffle!
 
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peglegjack said:
Does anyone at this forum actually like Apple anymore, or do you all just wait for the next article to come out so that you can whine and bitch some more about something that you probably didn't really care about in the first place?

This forum has truly become insufferable, and most of you should probably be ashamed of yourselves.
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Most people here like (or liked) Apple. The issue (in case you haven't figured it out) is that most people do not like the direction that Apple is going. From lack of innovation to no product refreshes for years, to dissatisfaction with the products that do launch losing important features in the name of thinness, etc. They have become a company focused on iPhones and watches, with neither being revolutionary anymore.

Apple is (was) a beloved company. As a company that is not transparent with their direction (or anything, really...), it leaves it to it's consumers to rumor about where things are headed.

Whine and bitch? That's what people do when they are unhappy.
 
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I dn't believe IDC and I don't believe T.C. Both have bias and influence. IDC based their numbers off retail channels reporting, and sampling of some users, not very accurate.

And T.C. has repeated a lot of this nonsense babble about "off the charts" and "best ever" and "pipeline" and ... well, T.C.'s word is kind of irrelevant in this age. Most of what he says seems extremely disconnected from reality.
 
honglong1976 said:
The iPhone was far superior to any phone at it's release date and defined what a smart phone should be. The Apple Watch is not the iPhone of the smart watch world! (although it wants to be and Apple wants to convince you that is it!).
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The original iPhone: The GUI was good, the functionality was lacklustre. Didn't have decent GPS, no 3G - Edge only, crap camera, couldn't install third party software... Of course, whether you consider the iPhone to be superior to all other phones at the time of initial release is all down to personal opinion :)
 
marby53 said:
I've had a watch for more than a year and use it every day, mainly for fitness, but it's also very handy for checking incoming text messages, reminders and even taking a quick phone call. All this saves looking for my phone. And the watch OS3 was an absolutely massive improvement. I haven't measured it but it feels like battery life is at least 50% better. They need to do something about the glass. The standard version scratches too easily. I'm on my third iteration, which means with Apple Care I paid $69 twice for a new watch.
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I have had mine since April of 2015. Not a scratch on it, and I wear it from the time I get up until I set it on the night stand at night as bed side alarm clock. Love the watch, interact with it many more times a day than I do my iPhone.
 
LOL…fake news is everywhere on the internet. You'd think that the tech press would be more interested in logic and facts, but NOPE.
 
If sale numbers were really good, why not put AW in its own category for the revenue charts?

I don't necessarily think that if the sales are good, it is a good product though. Example, I think that Macs were a lot better with hardly anyone used Apple products.

But, I also think Tim Cook is not being fully honest about sale records.

If Apple didn't sell one AW all year, and then sells a few, that would be considered record sales.
 
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I dn't believe IDC and I don't believe T.C. Both have bias and influence. IDC based their numbers off retail channels reporting, and sampling of some users, not very accurate.

And T.C. has repeated a lot of this nonsense babble about "off the charts" and "best ever" and "pipeline" and ... well, T.C.'s word is kind of irrelevant in this age. Most of what he says seems extremely disconnected from reality.
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Difference is Tim Cook is responsible to shareholders and the SEC. Tim Cook can make stuff up because eventually the truth comes out in financial reporting. Who is IDC responsible to?
 
Harloh said:
Does anyone have an idea that would make the apple watch better? What is its largest drawback you feel, what aside from the drawback being fixed would make it a more compelling device, not to replace the phone but to enhance it?
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Price and design for me. I've been considering picking up a 6S and Apple Watch. But the current Pricing of both iPhone and watch are the biggest barrier. it's not that I can't afford it. But at current prices (especially in Canadian) there is less value to be found. ($900 before tax for base iPhone and $400 for the watch)

I'm a watch wearer myself. But the Apple watch does not look like a watch I would wear. it looks like an iPhone 1 scaled down. Not a watch. Watch is really more of a "jewellery" piece for me at this point, I want one to look like a watch. not a mini smartphone on my wrist.
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Rogifan said:
Difference is Tim Cook is responsible to shareholders and the SEC. Tim Cook can make stuff up because eventually the truth comes out in financial reporting. Who is IDC responsible to?
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Nobody. Thats why IDC needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Have to understand where their numbers are coming from, and who pays the bills for IDC to do their reporting. Just like anything, and EVERYTHING, using critical thinking is important.

Even if Cook says something. Need to act Critically.
 
Stella said:
The original iPhone: The GUI was good, the functionality was lacklustre. Didn't have decent GPS, no 3G - Edge only, crap camera, couldn't install third party software... Of course, whether you consider the iPhone to be superior to all other phones at the time of initial release is all down to personal opinion :)
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It had limited specs compared to the competition but it was better! It felt like the future, unlike any phone that had come before it. Like it was about to start a revolution!

The Apple Watch is not the iPhone of the Watch world! (unfortunately!). I have one. It's a posh fitness tracker!
 
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honglong1976 said:
It had limited specs compared to the competition but it was better! It felt like the future, unlike any phone that had come before it. Like it was about to start a revolution!

The Apple Watch is not the iPhone of the Watch world! (unfortunately!). I have one. It's a posh fitness tracker!
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The GUI was better, sure. Everything else, Meh. Yes, it did start a new era of smartphones.

I think the AW had the potential - the GUI is eye candy ( like original iPhone ). Not sure about long term usability because I haven't used one for long enough. But the consumer isn't interest for whatever reason. Maybe like the iPod, the AW just needs more time.
 
Sandybox said:
Being evasive about the specific sales numbers just continues to make Cook look weak and untrustworthy. Since he took office it's always been "we have great things we can't tell you about". He's yet to deliver a single positive surprise with the product line and increasingly it looks like pursuit of profit is at the expense of Apple reputation and future prosperity.
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In what way is he "untrustworthy" - Apple releases it's financials every year so we know exactly how they've done compared to the previous years. There is nothing hidden other that exact sales numbers. If you followed Apple's financials you'd know they have wanted to, for competitive reasons, get away from releasing for a long time. They do not release sales numbers for any new product. They got stuck reporting Mac and iPhone sales which became the measure of their success at the expense of other metrics.

As far as your "great things" comment I beg to differ. The new W1 chip completely changes the wireless headphone industry (which they are dominating). Despite what people are saying the new macpros combined with final cut pro are video editing monsters. Finally the Apple Watch - at least in NYC, is see them all over the place. I don't leave home without it.
 
Stella said:
Apple release marketshare numbers if they are impressive, otherwise they don't.

Apple release numbers if sales figures are impressive, otherwise they don't.

Get the trend? If it makes Apple look great, then Apple release numeric values, otherwise its a vague statement or not mentioned.

Where in the screen cap are revenue numbers shown? As a consumer, I'm much more interested in sale figures.
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Why would you care as a consumer?

Only trolls are interested in sales numbers, even if Apple sold a billion of them, it still won't be enough.
 
I know it was said before but, the one apple product that we could probably all agree that could have used a thinner design for the series 2, ended up becoming thicker (not by much but still).

I want one bad, but not at this price. I will wait until another redesign of thinner and a bigger / longer screen. Then I will be sold.
 
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