It seems like Tim is trying to convince himself that this isn't true. He seems to enjoy talking about it.
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Tim Cook Says Apple Won't Create 'Converged' Mac and iPad
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Speak for yourself. I love the MacBook and its razor-thin display. I'm looking forward to the iPad Pro.
No, I actually don't want Apple's take on Windows 8 on an iPad. I'd like a slightly smaller iPad Pro, but am perfectly fine with Apple choosing to refine their mobile OS instead of taking a 15 year old desktop OS and trying to add touch to it. I also prefer the 10 hour battery life of an iPad Pro with an ARM chip vs the 2.5 hour battery life of the Surface Book in tablet mode.
But this same group of people said the same thing about an iPad Mini and a larger screen iPhone, so perhaps you are not the visionary that you believe you are...
They're merely a smaller iPad and a larger iPhone, BOTH OF WHICH RUN iOS; the different OS' are not being merged. I don't remember saying I am a "visionary" - you're extremely cocky.
Try again.
A lot of people here are happy with Cook's comments no matter what they are. Some people agree with everything Apple does, even when they don't.
Well, you could reply to emails on a surface 3 just as well, maybe better if iOS hasn't resolved their issue with email attachments (I'm not sure if they have). What web applications do you need that you can't find on windows?
As far as replacing the 27" retina, I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you truly missed my point. Just connect an external monitor to the surface pro, as I mentioned I have 2 28" 4k monitors that completely blow that 27" away. It's kind of obvious I wouldn't compare a 12" screen to a 27" one, but rather having a desktop experience is what I was comparing.
I don't know much about your software, so you may be right. But either way you are still stuck with that laptop at work, so it's an irrelevant point even if you use an ipad.
At home, why not just connect a full size keyboard to your laptop or windows tablet? At least you have the luxury of also using a mouse, with the ipad you can't even use a mouse.
I don't mean to sound like I'm calling you out, I'm just genuinely curious. I respect your needs as only you know what works best for you. I like the ipad, I really do, it was the jesus pad for me when it first came out, a complete work of art. But once that first windows tablet came out there was NO looking back for me and now I can't handle an ipad without a feeling of deep inadequacy.
So you don't browse the internet, check email, look at photos, videos, movies, play games, take notes, make to do lists, do research, etc on your MacBook at all?
Nice deflection focusing on SB instead of SP4 which gets 9 hours of battery life. At least Microsoft gives you choices.
You price comparison is ridiculous.
For instance you have included the prices of each device with the lowest storage you can get on the apple devices.
So for 1499 you get the lowest storage Surface book for Less than the ipad air 2 and macbook.
I saved about 300 hundred dollars in that situation...Wohoo.
And if your buying the Fully spec Surface book chances are you aren't going to buy the cheapest lowest spec macbook are you?
But that's the highest number in this thread. So technically it shows the majority percentage.
let say you are correct in number. Thus, 11% (as of today forum numbers) of the folks would like to see an integrate solution, based on your numbers in this thread. There are about 96 million mac users. So Apple could potentially sell 10 plus million of these hybrids if we stay with your numbers. Apple put untold dollars into the Apple watch to sell about 4 million today. Seems like a good bet, if done correctly, Apple would make a killing at 1K plus dollars for a combo system. If I were Mr. Cook, might just be in the future. I think Apple could really make this category of system really awesome. Much better then MS could ever do. I for one think it will be a reality sooner then later.
You mean a worse tablet and worse laptop all in one worse OS with less software; all in losing money for 4-5 years straight and selling less than the mac or Ipad (by far). Yeah, they sure hit a home run there with that hybrid stuff.
Only if forum members are truly representative of the general population; I dare say they're not. Not some bold assertion I'm sure.
They're probably so incredibly far that that the actual number in the general public are likely 10 fold smaller.
I'm sure Apple's product management team has run the numbers already....
Many of those people who want hybrids already have one... by buying a Air 2 or pro and a keyboard (for those that run mostly in tablet mode). For others, buy a laptop and a tablet is the way to go. That way there is no compromise.
Actually that was my hidden point. I still think Apple has an opportunity to really create an awesome category of integrated computer systems. MS just opened the door.
Apple has always had fewer choices. Anyway most of the drooling around these forums has been around the Surface Book. The Surface Pro 4 is a nice notebook, but the base processor that gets the 9 hours is the awful Core m3.
Actually, the Core M3 isn't half bad a processor, if your intentions are to use it for fairly light to medium loads. It's the one I opted for, since I wanted a fanless tablet. I haven't been disappointed by it at all.
Also, I'm currently typing with it on my lap!
The SP4 compares against the IPP and the SB compares against the MB.
The M3 version has 4GB/128GB which is the same as the IPP and is less expensive with more software and hardware features. I wouldn't use the word awful. Maybe the A9X is faster but not by much that it would be noticeable for most apps. Plus, you get to run full-blown apps.
That's a phenomenally good point in regards to Bootcamp. Mac Rumors may go up in flames if Apple pushes people to virtualize Windows.
What annoys me is that ipad users continue to profess that surface pro users only use their SP's as laptops, that's utter BS. What it smacks of to me is an insecurity about using something as primitive as an ipad. I don't need a primitive "app" with 2"x2" buttons to accomplish my tasks. People make windows on a tablet seem so much more difficult than it really is, STOP dumbing yourselves down.
I'd say it's more like the SP4 M3 compares to the iPP/MB, the SP4 iCores compare to the Airs, and the Book compares to the 13" MBP.
The core M3 processor is pretty beefy, go look up some videos of people running GTA V on it. But you can go for a surface 3 which meets and equals the ipad in pretty much all aspects. The M3 is easily enough to run something like Photoshop with smaller to medium sized files, heck even the Atom processor tablets can run it. For all the chest beating about APple's processors I have yet to see a high end mainstream program like Photoshop, or a mainstream high end game run on an ipad. It's no doubt a very strong CPU, but just overkill for the applications thrown at it.
I do a lot of CAD production, spreadsheets, etc. - I'm not saying touch can't be useful in such a situation, but given the current office paradigm of sitting at a horizontal desk with vertical monitors, it's a non-starter. Given the glacial pace at which most office environments upgrade (how many still run Windows XP?) I'm not expecting that revolution to come around anytime soon.
By gaming I don't necessarily mean 'FPS'ing, but still things where you sometimes need quick and precise reactions. I used to find it impossible; now it's no sweat. I guess it's just an adaptation of having acclimated to it over 7 years. So far the worst I've gotten are sore fingertips. I suppose that beats CTS. As for the angle, it's on the MBP so it's no worse than typing. My only gripe is the "sharp" edge of the laptop - which seems to be something of a common complaint.