Tim Cook Says Chinese Security Talks Were 'Very Open', Bringing Apple Pay to China a Priority

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Tim Cook was optimistic about Apple's relationship with China following a meeting with top Chinese government officials in Beijing on Wednesday to discuss data privacy and security. Cook told China's Xinhua news agency (Via Reuters) that he had "very open" talks with a senior official.
    As part of the interview, Cook also confirmed Apple's plan to launch Apple Pay and other technologies in China saying, "China is a really key market for us. Everything we do, we are going to work it here. Apple Pay is on the top of the list." Cook spoke to Xinhua News during his 4-day-long trip to China, which saw the CEO also visit a Foxconn factory in Zhengzhou City.

    China is an increasingly important market for the Cupertino company, which now has 16 percent of the smartphone market share behind Samsung (23 percent) and Xiaomi (21 percent). Apple plans to expand its presence even further in the country by opening 25 new stores in the next two years.

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  2. xero9 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 7, 2006
    If this is the case, then maybe there is hope for Europe/Canada after all!
  3. cameronjpu macrumors 65816

    Aug 24, 2007
    The headline just proves that Tim Cook knows how to play the game. There's no way he actually believes that the talks were very open, but saying that they were is crucial to stroking the Chinese politicians.
  4. 2457282 Suspended

    Dec 6, 2012
    Probably true. Also true is how important China is for Apple. This means that like it or not, Tim has got to play the game. And play it well.
  5. El Hikaru macrumors regular

    Dec 3, 2013
    I think Cook is doing the right track talking to them directly. In China, tight relationship is a key to do just about anything. Close relationship is more important than honesty, or legitimacy. There are no contract papers when you rent an apartment, or order batch of merchandises without UCC like regulation. Don't be upset just because Chinese people turn their back on you. You just have not build enough friendship before dealing business with them.
    I leaned from my wife who is a Chinese...
  6. Mums Suspended


    Oct 4, 2011
    China's got most of America's money now - I've seen it myself. China is the new consumer powerhouse. Strange world.
  7. imwoblin macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2007
    Let's just hope Tim Cook doesn't capitulate with the Chinese government and give them an encryption key in exchange for access into the Chinese market.
  8. hkenneth macrumors regular

    Jul 25, 2011
  9. RedOrchestra Suspended

    Aug 13, 2012
    Without a whole lot of censorship, that ain't going to happen.
  10. Parasprite macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2013
    This revealed less about the attacks than I expected. I wonder if Cook originally planned to go there regarding Apple Pay/other business matters and threw this in at the last minute.
  11. Col4bin macrumors 68000


    Oct 2, 2011
    El Segundo
    And by "open" they of course really mean "closed"!
  12. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    It has the most people, so you would expect it to be the biggest market ;).
  13. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    Why not? The Chinese government can have all the encryption keys they like. If they start asking for _decryption_ keys, that's something else. (For example when you use encrypted emails via S/MIME, your encryption keys are actually _public_. Everyone sending you an encrypted emails sends it using _your_ encryption key. The idea is that you are the only person with the decryption key who can read the message).
  14. wankey macrumors 6502a

    Aug 24, 2005
    It's called guanxi
  15. macnisse macrumors 6502

    Jun 26, 2010
  16. jmh600cbr macrumors 6502a


    Feb 14, 2012
    I'm hoping canada is very high on this list also. The infrastructure is absolutely everywhere. I have been paying to tap for everything for about 3 years now.
  17. Pagemakers macrumors 68020


    Mar 28, 2008
    Manchester UK
  18. Edd.Dantes macrumors 6502

    Dec 5, 2007
    There is no game to be played. Not sure what planet some of you live on...

    China censors everything and tracks their people's every move. Apple wants that pie but they already "rolled" over because the iPhone is in China.

    Tim Cook cannot sway Beijing and their ways. This is all fluff. If you think a Chinese user has an equal amount of privacy, just because it's an Apple device, then you're delusional or crazy.

    Tim going to China was as useless as if I had went. It was all for show.
  19. nazaar macrumors 6502a


    Oct 28, 2008
    Com'on Canada.... please don't be like iTunes Radio. Officially in the US, but not in Canada
  20. rish, Oct 25, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2014

    rish macrumors 6502


    Mar 23, 2006
    London UK
    Not strange at all. It's the language of capitalism. We should be very aware and used to that here in the West. You buy key assets therefore you control. End of.
  21. Mums Suspended


    Oct 4, 2011
    Umm... wrong. Japan has only one twelfth the population compared to China, and is still a more powerful market. Germany, France, UK - all much smaller than China. Not understanding your illogical statement.


    Wrong. You neglect to consider the Crown Corporation with its worldwide chain of central banks including the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve. There is no free market anywhere any more, and your understanding of world finance and economy is very shallow.
  22. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    The fact that China is currently the world's largest economy in PPP dollars and that it is the world's second largest economy at current exchange rates, as well as the fact that China and India have been the world's largest economies for most of the last thousand years due to their high populations.

  23. zin Suspended

    May 5, 2010
    United Kingdom
    It is interesting that you consider the poster's understanding of world finance to be shallow when you are simply repeating a conspiracy view that was hijacked by anti-government anarchists a long time ago.
  24. Tech198 macrumors G5

    Mar 21, 2011
    Australia, Perth
    Maybe China was just trying to "fake" it ? Now Tim had also opened the door for privacy and security, what's to stop Chine for easily hacking more if their services ?

    Personally, i will say a quick goodbye to the privacy of Apple... it was short lived, but making it available to (even one of the biggest markets), Tim overlooks something here....

    And no one will know, until it's too late..

    It may be a toss of the coin, but personally, i would value security over and over a big market any day..... It may be the wrong thing to do now, but at least your know your safe. How do we know what China will do with this ?

    I just realized, i wouldn't be a good business person :D so shoot me.

    At the end of the day, when everyone will be attacked, i'll be the only sole survive... even if i don't have any money.
  25. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    They aren't exactly going to put the servers for western countries in China are they. For starters it's too far away for most of them.

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