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Tim Cook Succeeded Steve Jobs as Apple CEO Nine Years Ago Today
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I guess I'm the only one that thinks he did a mediocre job. Mac hardware has floundered under Cook. SIRI is such a colossal mess that he should be fired just for that. OSX have been buggy junk for a decade. The dumb push for maximum miniaturization has made most hardware unrepairable and un-upgradable. Oh well.
Apple Watch? Not much else has really been under Cook. He’s good at making money Jobs always spoke about the intersection of art and technology. I think Cook is missing the art piece.
I miss Jobs though. It hurt me to read his biography after his death and to see how hurtful he was off the stage. But when he was on the stage, wow!
I miss Jobs though. It hurt me to read his biography after his death and to see how hurtful he was off the stage. But when he was on the stage, wow!
I liken Tim to Elon Musk. Elon, smart guy no doubt but a visionary...reinvented the electric vehicle which Porsche invented in 1904. Made a market for it. Tim's work at Apple, imo, was analogous to this. If people consider Elon a visionary for reinventing the electric vehicle market, Tim should be right along side of Elon, in reinventing Apple.
Apple products have been very mediocre since Tim has come on board. The mac line up has devolved from yearly updates for every model to arbitrary releases going on for years, in some cases half a decade between updates. What do we get? Crappy intel integrated graphics garbage, abysmal I/O, dropping build quality (i.e keyboards, cooling, logic boards etc.), with obscenely inflated prices. To say nothing of yesterdays iPhone industrual design, and inferior services like Siri and Apple maps. Apples only success is momentum due to the brand, obscene markup, and breaking into the Chinese market.
I didn’t know Porsche invented the electric vehicle, Ferdinand designed a Hybrid in 1901/4 but Porsche didn’t build their first electric car until 1912 - under its own name. Of course, In 1898, Ferdinand Porsche designed the Egger-Lohner C.2 Phaeton. 1832, Robert Anderson develops the first crude electric vehicle, but it isn't until the 1870s or later that electric cars become practical. Porsche was founded in 1931 yet as an engineer at a very young age was already working and building cars before then.
Porsche has done an incredible and fantastic job with hybrids and their stay an electric.
I fully agree with your your other statements as well.
Now other car manufacturers are making great strides with electric car developments - efficiencies and even giving us glimpses into some habits and traditions we’ve associated with gasoline engines - Ford’s Mustang Mach E Hoonigan reveal just 2 wks ago promises us drifting, burnouts and even a high pitched wine. That part I’m still unsure I can get with. Porsche, Mercedes have had experience in piping engine noise or tuning exhaust noises electronically so maybe we’ll get “fake yet realistic gasoline car noises” in future electrical cars. To pedestrians it’s actually a safe thing at intersections
Cook has done well. Products under his guidance are: Watch, HomePod, iPad Pro, 2020 Mac Pro, AirPods and AirPods Pro. Not bad really.
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Absolutely Scott had to be CEO. He was closer to Steve more than anyone else. He was the father of iOS and iPhone, the key product that skyrocketed Apple. MacOS X Aqua interface, App Store also were his creations.
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There were a few years when Apple wasn't looking so good - no Mac refreshes, Apple abandoning pro customers, keyboard problems. I used PCs and hackintoshes during this time. I'm happy they're back on track now.
You have no idea what you are even talking about....
There was nothing wrong with the first gen Apple TV, I bought one and loved it and you could stream from it to your itunes library whether it be music, video, movies. It made it seamless to put content from computer to tv without cords.
The iPod was a hit the SECOND it came out. Everybody wanted one. I had a first gen iPod 5GB with scroll wheel. Everybody that saw it loved it and wanted one. Why would they make it for windows. The whole point of the ipod was getting people into the Apple Ecosystem. I knew many people who bought a mac just so they could have an iPad and once it became a cultural phenomenon, which it was but since you probably arent in you 30s you wouldnt know how it all went down anyway, they opened it to windows, and even then more people started buying macs instead of windows because itunes wasnt out on windows and in integrated through Rhapsody Music player which was horrible, that alone is the reason we ever got itunes for windows, because steve wanted a good experience when using Apple Products. Also the itunes music store when it first came out was Mac only and not windows and that was way after the ipod worked with windows. If it was a failure just to have it on mac he wouldnt do it again, it was a brilliant strategy.
The titanium and aluminum macs were not extremely flawed, I don't know where you came up with that but everyone I talked to loved them and had no problem, every single person in the Macrumors forum was praising them back then.
Mobileme failed because it was ahead of the time. There wasnt anything wrong with it, people just didnt need it or know about it that much. It was iTools renamed and itunes was free,gave you a free @mac.com address, and had cloud storage called iDrive, the only disappointment with MobileMe was it went with a paid subscription model and everyone was used to having everything free. Believe it or not iMovie iDVD, iTunes, iPhoto were free at one time, then they started charging for the new updates or came with a new mac. That wasnt a failure.
The third gen ipod shuffle might not have been the most well recieved but believe me, people were buying them like crazy. I worked at Fry's Electronics in the Apple section and we couldnt keep ANY iPod in stock, including the 3rd gen iPod shuffle because people were buying them like nuts. We had reserved orders out to a month at the time.
Now itunes ping and the hockey mouse i will give you towards Steve but here are a list of failures under tim cook, Neglecting the Mac line for far too long, selling a 5 year old Macbook pro at the same price as when it was first released. Waiting five years to update macbook pro, Apple watch apple edition for 10,000 dollars, the butterfly keyboards, the crazy stupid prices for the new apple display stand and the crazy amount for the wheels on the new mac pro, the trashcan macbook pro, doing away with the head phone jack on iphones, taking way to long to try to make the iPad a competitor to the Surface and other two in ones. No touch screen on a mac even though Apple mainstreamed touch screens in the first place and last but not least by any means the god awful touchbar....
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Are you serious? Tim had NOTHING to do with the app store, ios, iphone MacOS X or the aqua interface. The only thing he had to do with that was distribution and possibly pricing. I don't know where you got that info from but geez I hate all the stuff about fake news but you literally posted fake news..
Nice story but the mac refreshes being underwhelming weren't a new thing at all. Go and look at the iterations before Steve passed and they're not too dissimilar.
The only things that have changed in that department are:
- Intel getting significantly slower at releasing updates
- Cook not having the same charm that Steve had to be able to sell a poor upgrade as if its the must have thing of that year
For build issues I take you back to the iPhone 4 antenna, the crappy mighty mouse nipple, the plastic snapping on the white macbooks, the major screen burn issues on the 2007 iMac. The abnormal rate of hard drive failures in 2007 - 2010 iMacs.
People seem to have a very short memory.
Nah for me, I can enjoy having multiple Sawtooth, G5 towers and several MacPros from Job's era. Those tower are Job's legacy. Under Tim, he approved trash can design which left Mac Pro suffer for years, 2019 model was better but it had no same value like previous tower.
I get what you are saying. I used to upgrade every year or 2 depending on the device. But now I only get a new iPhone / watch when I really need to.
I dread buying new Macs, they are always a let down, dodgy keyboards, bad GPUs or my current favourite the Mini where you can't use any of the USB ports as it interferes with the Bluetooth / WiFi.
The new MacPro could have tempted me, but with no Nvidia support and extremely high prices for what you get I just built a PC instead that is more powerful than Apple could hope to sell for the same price.
They are not the company they were and they are definitely not driving innovation anymore, just doing what successful companies with monopolies do, selling the same product year on year until the market shifts and they start falling behind.
It will really be weird when the Cook era outlasts the Steve Jobs post-NeXT era of Apple. 9/97-8/11
Five more years ya think?
Five more years ya think?
9 years already?
where did the years go
mr cook is good choice
r.i.p. mr jobs - you must be proud of aapl wherever you are
where did the years go
mr cook is good choice
r.i.p. mr jobs - you must be proud of aapl wherever you are