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No, they wouldn't. Deleting Uber from the App Store would have inconvenienced Apple's customers. It's easy to ban a small-time developer, not so easy when your customers would be heavily impacted.
I bet uber would fix the problems real, damn quick though! Maybe they could sell some front page ads to Lyft while Uber fixes their sh**.

This shows that App Store rules are a f#%* sham. If your 30% is big enough, Apple won't make you follow the rules.. they'll just ask nicely. If your big enough like other privacy invading companies they'll delay rules for years. If you're a small dev that steps on few toes, you're out, your app and account executed lock, stock, and barrel with no appeals process. We get more than one post a month about devs with far smaller infractions.
 
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When it comes down to hitting a pedestrian or an oncoming car, what would an autonomous vehicle decide was better?

Yep, many people think this is a major problem with autonomous cars that's going to have to be dealt with, sooner or later.

If a kid darts out in front of a car, a human driver is usually going to avoid them at all costs... even if it means slamming their car into something else or driving into a ditch. Heck, many people have already done this for even pets in the road.

This first time a child in the street is killed by a self-driving car that could've easily avoided her by hitting say, a parked car instead, there will be a public backlash and a cry for programming that puts outsiders above occupants at times. Then it becomes a moral quagmire determining what combinations of people are worth more than others.
 
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I deleted Uber ages ago because they are a horrid company. This is just not a surprise. I'll stick to Lyft because oh hey, their drivers don't treat me like garbage.
 
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Here's where I am conflicted. I love the service, even as I find some of their practices deplorable, and as long as Uber continues to operate in my country, I will never use another taxi for as long as I live.

The taxi companies really have only themselves to blame for becoming so lazy and complacent and allowing themselves to be disrupted by a better, more efficient service. The uber drivers I have encountered are way more polite, knowledgeable and have a better attitude overall compared to the taxi drivers I have come across.

Here in LA, taxis can only be called in advance. The last time me and mother tried to use a taxi from a train station back in 2011, the taxi bailed on us and left us standing at the station for 3-4 hours at night in a rain storm. Never. Again.

Uber is convenient and easily accessible using an app, and you can find a few Uber drivers even in far flung suburbs. Combined with using cheap rail transit/express buses for long distance you can easily get around nowadays without a car.
 
If a kid darts out in front of a car, a human driver is usually going to avoid them at all costs... even if it means slamming their car into something else or driving into a ditch. Heck, many people have already done this for even pets in the road.

Data? I have seen humans swerve blindly to avoid a ped. I've never seen a human consciously choose to self-destruct.

But, if "self-destruct" is what society thinks is best in that situation, just program it into the car's algorithm. Make it a legal requirement if that's the universal consensus.
 
First, the name calling invalidates your entire "argument". Impossible to discuss without some Tim Cook bashing meme or name calling for some people.

The CEO has a balancing act here and seems to have done his job. The app was changed to conform to the rules. Whether you "believe" they received special treatment is irrelevant; cook acted in good faith. This is the same "good faith" displayed to devs when their apps violate the agreement.
LOL! Ya....good faith....tell that to the developers that get nothing but a "you've been removed from the App Store" message. I'm sure they will worship Tim and Apple and be totally cool that others get special treatment. And the Apple apologist movement treks on.
 
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First, the name calling invalidates your entire "argument". Impossible to discuss without some Tim Cook bashing meme or name calling for some people.

The CEO has a balancing act here and seems to have done his job. The app was changed to conform to the rules. Whether you "believe" they received special treatment is irrelevant; cook acted in good faith. This is the same "good faith" displayed to devs when their apps violate the agreement.
Flux devs or Dash devs werent invited to the Apple campus over tea to get a second chance.

And its obvious they recieved special treatment. Apple should show the "courage" to remove the app from the store until they revoke their 5 minute tracking policy. Who knows what other code they are misusing.
 
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Flux devs or Dash devs werent invited to the Apple campus over tea to get a second chance.

And its obvious they recieved special treatment. Apple should show the "courage" to remove the app from the store until they revoke their 5 minute tracking policy. Who knows what other code they are misusing.
What apple/cook did, imo, was the right thing and took "courage" to call out the CEO of uber to fix the issue. If you take exception you could delete uber from your idevices and use the android version. Who knows what that android app is doing.
 
Here's where I am conflicted. I love the service, even as I find some of their practices deplorable, and as long as Uber continues to operate in my country, I will never use another taxi for as long as I live.

The taxi companies really have only themselves to blame for becoming so lazy and complacent and allowing themselves to be disrupted by a better, more efficient service. The uber drivers I have encountered are way more polite, knowledgeable and have a better attitude overall compared to the taxi drivers I have come across.

Or just use Lyft or another alternative. Uber is a truly horrendous company.
 
LOL! Ya....good faith....tell that to the developers that get nothing but a "you've been removed from the App Store" message. I'm sure they will worship Tim and Apple and be totally cool that others get special treatment. And the Apple apologist movement treks on.
I'm sorry, I missed the message you were attempting to send because of the weak straw man argument and name calling you were using.
 
what about if instead of UBER it was a small developer without much money doing this ?

it would have been banned forever.

Tim Cook the biggest hypocrite the tech world has ever seen
 
Data? I have seen humans swerve blindly to avoid a ped. I've never seen a human consciously choose to self-destruct.

I didn't say self-destruct on purpose. But yes, rather than hit a child, people will often swerve into something else and take their chances, even if the chances are slim. After all, they're in the two ton vehicle, not in front of it like the kid.

As for programming it into the vehicle with parameters, I'm left thinking of "I, Robot" with Will Smith where the robots programming told it to save him instead of the girl, simply because he had better slightly better chances.
 
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Which would a human driver choose?
Hopefully the one with the least amount of casualties.
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What are you trying to convey in this post? Did you know that autonomous hardware has to go through 1,000,000 miles of PERFECT testing before its allowed to be used on the road. If I had a person vs a machine that had .2 seconds to decide whether to hit a ped or a car I would probably rely on the car more often since it can at least make a decision in that time.
You can trust whichever you like but I don't trust people or computers making a life or death choice. 1,000,000,000 miles of testing means nothing if there is still an accident based on SOFTWARE.
 
Here's where I am conflicted. I love the service, even as I find some of their practices deplorable, and as long as Uber continues to operate in my country, I will never use another taxi for as long as I live.

The taxi companies really have only themselves to blame for becoming so lazy and complacent and allowing themselves to be disrupted by a better, more efficient service. The uber drivers I have encountered are way more polite, knowledgeable and have a better attitude overall compared to the taxi drivers I have come across.
Genuinely curious.. AFAIK, you're not a fan of Samsung at all. Yet, it seems like you're willing to give Uber a "free pass" simply because you have no other alternative. Is it.. fair to say that much?



I think you're being a bit hard on taxi services. The Uber idea was always going to trump anything else and was always going to be done by someone outside of the taxi industry.

I have never got an Uber and don't plan on doing so. I expect they'll have some serious competition sometime soon and I will look at using a competitor. I just hear too many stories about Uber that steers me clear of them.
They really could've done more to keep the likes of Uber and Lyft from getting too far into the market.

OTOH, things like restrictions are still necessary (even if too restrictive), as it seems Uber would pretty much allow any crackpot to drive a car. People were worried about Note 7s catching fire... imagine being in the vehicle driven by some unsavory drivers! Your life could just as easily be in jeopardy in such cases!
 
This first time a child in the street is killed by a self-driving car that could've easily avoided her by hitting say, a parked car instead, there will be a public backlash and a cry for programming that puts outsiders above occupants at times. Then it becomes a moral quagmire determining what combinations of people are worth more than others.

And then a kid inside the car will be killed by the car choosing the outsider over the occupant, and there will be outrage in the other direction.

I'd like my car to defend me and my family first, others second. That's how everyone else would drive.
 
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