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Apple's in good shape and will continue to be for years more, even if revenue actually starts to fall.
Well, Apple true believers would tend to buy Apple stock. Explains the unusual defensiveness of the company in this and other product owner forums, even over customers having real problems with products or speculative statements from analysts.
I think apples strategy on raising prices on phones was done the wrong way. Apple realizes that after a certain point phones are fast enough and upgraded because of speed and camera increases get less and less.
After the 6s phone have been very very fast and useable 3+ years later totally fine.
This wasn't the case with the new phones- original was horribly slow as well as the 3g. The 4 was a decent bump and the 4s. Phones have gotten too good so apple raises prices and puts better materials in their phones(oled, dual camera's, stainless steel). Apple saw the slow in upgrading and they improved the phones material cost went up and they raised prices too much. Too much to the point that a starting price of 1000$ for a smaller storage phone is just way too high. The competition has oled phones for 600-800$ all over the board.
I think apple shot themselves in the foot with prices and we will DEFINITELY see a price cut next year on the phones.
The way apple should of increased phone prices was with storage only.
The plus size phones have always been expensive I think my 6+ with highest storage was 850$ new which was 2014.
A starting price of 1000$ is wrong. IT can go passed that with storage options but the XS and XS max should start under 900$. I think a 256 max phone should be 900 with a 64 gig starting price of 800(128 gig for 850).
Upcharging because there is no 128 gig premium phone 150$ doesn't sit well with me. Especially when they release an XR for 750(64 gig) with double storage at 50$ more.
I mean common you can add twice the storage for 50$ more but you force the premium phone xs users from a 64-256 because you know the majority of people will choose the 128 gig like they had in the previous phones. upcharging 150$ is just ridiculous.
Apple needs to work on customer satisfaction is what they need. They need to make the customers feel ok with their purchase and I have not since the X. The plus sizes phones where already pushing it. They can include a fast charger and a usb-c cable in the box with the DAMN dongle they removed from their 1000$ phones. Its just little things that scream GREEEEEED.
Theres a reason why old mom and pop stores stay in business. People feel good going to the same place they always have for the same service they always get. Apple needs to learn from that and be better to their customers.
After the 6s phone have been very very fast and useable 3+ years later totally fine.
This wasn't the case with the new phones- original was horribly slow as well as the 3g. The 4 was a decent bump and the 4s. Phones have gotten too good so apple raises prices and puts better materials in their phones(oled, dual camera's, stainless steel). Apple saw the slow in upgrading and they improved the phones material cost went up and they raised prices too much. Too much to the point that a starting price of 1000$ for a smaller storage phone is just way too high. The competition has oled phones for 600-800$ all over the board.
I think apple shot themselves in the foot with prices and we will DEFINITELY see a price cut next year on the phones.
The way apple should of increased phone prices was with storage only.
The plus size phones have always been expensive I think my 6+ with highest storage was 850$ new which was 2014.
A starting price of 1000$ is wrong. IT can go passed that with storage options but the XS and XS max should start under 900$. I think a 256 max phone should be 900 with a 64 gig starting price of 800(128 gig for 850).
Upcharging because there is no 128 gig premium phone 150$ doesn't sit well with me. Especially when they release an XR for 750(64 gig) with double storage at 50$ more.
I mean common you can add twice the storage for 50$ more but you force the premium phone xs users from a 64-256 because you know the majority of people will choose the 128 gig like they had in the previous phones. upcharging 150$ is just ridiculous.
Apple needs to work on customer satisfaction is what they need. They need to make the customers feel ok with their purchase and I have not since the X. The plus sizes phones where already pushing it. They can include a fast charger and a usb-c cable in the box with the DAMN dongle they removed from their 1000$ phones. Its just little things that scream GREEEEEED.
Theres a reason why old mom and pop stores stay in business. People feel good going to the same place they always have for the same service they always get. Apple needs to learn from that and be better to their customers.
Well the dongle can work I guess if you want to stick to wired headphones. But if emf is a concern, I dunno if the differential between wired and wireless is significant. Is it? I mean you’d have to live in a Faraday cage to avoid emf these days. I understand the inverse square relationship thing a bit but I’m surprised that it matters to some people actually.
All the saying that all the problems lay in China because their economics is going down is just rubbish. It’s an excuse to the fact that people are starting to see that iPhones aren’t king anymore. You can have so much more value for money with other brands these days that the iPhone is starting to look like a sitting duck.
Stagnant development in soft- and hardware has finally taking its toll. Unless Apple isn’t going to speed up, it’s done business. Wait for MWC in Barcelona this February and you’ll see how far Apple is actually getting behind. Mid-range androids already offer what the top of the iPhone line does at a fraction of the price. While services on android are actually better than what Apple has to offer without the eco trap.
Will Apple go out of business? No. But it definitely has to show more focus and speed up development. It’s soft- and hardware has become an embarrassment for a company with such deep pockets.
We definitely need a leader with a vision and passion for technology at Apple. Look what Satya Nadella did for Microsoft since 2014 and see what Tim Cook did for Apple since 2012. Apple made extraordinary profits at the expense of its customers while totally eroding its hard- and software.
Economic slowdown my ass. Competition has caught up and is overhauling Apple in a rapid speed. People want value for money.
Eroding your customerbase by relying on your brandname from the past and not giving value for money in return is shortsided and shareholder thinking. Apple is going downhill and they deserve it.
It's ludicrous to claim that Apple is going downhill just because they had to readjust their expected earnings slightly downwards for a quarter. So they are projected to earn 5 billion less. That tells us nothing, besides that Apple sold maybe 6% fewer iPhones in a 3-month span vs the previous year.
It's okay to be unhappy with certain Apple practices such as higher pricing or not including a fast charger or extension cable with their products, and still acknowledge that Apple will go on to be successful despite / because of it.
In order to understand and contextualise your anology which shop was this that you are referring to as otherwise anyone could pull any argument they like ina. Debate without having to substantiate facts
How do you prove apples user base is eroding? I bought a max recently. Impulse buy, great phone.
Love my apple products. $84 billion has to be put in context. Apple will go on successfully.
China is just one piece of the puzzle. I suspect that Apple expected to get more from China and over forecasted.
What I am looking forward to is how Apple handles this.
What ground breaking innovation has the competition offered up? More memory? Sd card reader? Pop up flash? Hole in the right side vs notch? Finger print reader on back? Or under glass? Consistent support? More pixels? All variations on a theme with little innovation to be found.
Maybe that’s why most android phones sell as a mid-range. They are all in competition with themselves, while attempting to dissect Samsung.
When you consider how much of those $ 84 billion will go to shareholders and how much of that actually goes to R&D you’ll understand the poor state of the iPhone vs the competition and the sad, embarrassing state their hard- and software is in. What’s surprising to me is why it took so long this is happening. 2019 will be the year Apple has to prove it’s still a worthy company. With MWC in Barcelona around the corner and seeing what the competition has to offer, I’m holding my breath.
What poor state of the iphone vs the competition? There hasn't been anything new or innovative in android-land in a while, unless one considers a pop-up flash innovative. What embarrassing state of the hardware and software?
What took so long for it to happen? Apple missed it guidance but still raked in 84B? What do you think the competition will offer in MWC? Bigger SD cards.
The definition of innovation is clearly fluid.
Have you seen the latest from Huawei lately? Seen the leaks of the galaxy S10?
Then look at the specs and compare them to the Apple offerings and compare price. Also compare the level of services outside the USA. Apple is in no way competitive anymore.
Yes I have. But so what?
With the Samsung it seems that innovation resides in more memory, which is why I said the definition of innovation is fluid.
Specs are the means, user experience is the end.
Most consumers couldn’t distinguish the 1080p display of the pocophone against the supposedly inferior display of the iPhone XR. This should tell you that specs alone don’t always tell the whole story.
Many android OEMs typically tout bigger numbers on paper because that’s the only real way they can differentiate their products. More ram, more cameras, faked benchmarks, even if this doesn’t necessarily result in a better experience for the end user.
For instance, I don’t consider 10 gb of ram on a phone something worth boasting about. If anything, it ought to be a mark of shame, because you are basically admitting that your software is that bloated and inefficient.
Then there are the software gimmicks, because these OEMs have no real ecosystem to take advantage of. Does anyone even use Dex?
Meanwhile, Apple continues to do what it does best: take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.
My Airpods pair seamlessly to my iPhone, iPad or Apple Watch. My 5s got its 5th year of software updates. The writing experience on my iPad Pro is second to none. Airdrop amongst my Apple devices. A face scanner which offers real security. Custom processors with Secure Enclave and desktop-class performance. An App Store which continues to attract the best developers.
Now that’s meaningful innovation I can get behind.
My opinion is different and my opinion is that Apple is overpriced and falling far behind with what the competition has to offer.Specs are the means, user experience is the end.
Most consumers couldn’t distinguish the 1080p display of the pocophone against the supposedly inferior display of the iPhone XR. This should tell you that specs alone don’t always tell the whole story.
Many android OEMs typically tout bigger numbers on paper because that’s the only real way they can differentiate their products. More ram, more cameras, faked benchmarks, even if this doesn’t necessarily result in a better experience for the end user.
For instance, I don’t consider 10 gb of ram on a phone something worth boasting about. If anything, it ought to be a mark of shame, because you are basically admitting that your software is that bloated and inefficient.
Then there are the software gimmicks, because these OEMs have no real ecosystem to take advantage of. Does anyone even use Dex?
Meanwhile, Apple continues to do what it does best: take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.
My Airpods pair seamlessly to my iPhone, iPad or Apple Watch. My 5s got its 5th year of software updates. The writing experience on my iPad Pro is second to none. Airdrop amongst my Apple devices. A face scanner which offers real security. Custom processors with Secure Enclave and desktop-class performance. An App Store which continues to attract the best developers.
Now that’s meaningful innovation I can get behind.
Subjective, general opinion. My subjective, general opinion is apple products are worth the price and I’m loving my max.
Overpriced yes but what is the comp doing that makes apple behind?
When it comes to tablets and smart watches apple are miles ahead of android same when it comes to their Bluetooth air pods. No comp is close when it comes to these areas.
Face ID Is still miles ahead of the comp in terms of being secure and working consistently in different settings.
Of course there are certain features in android which i wish iPhones had like spilt screen/always on display/file management/secure folder and on screen widgets.
Overall though apple is on par with what android has to offer from a technology standpoint.
Apple is years behind in screen tech. I don't think the 'X' design will attract much switchers if the 2019 design stays almost the same. Oled has been offered standard now on almost any midrange Android Phones. Services Apple is certainly lacking not to mention Siri, maps. iMessage is only compelling when you live in the USA as are are most closed Apple services.
Together with minimal very expensive storage options I think they'll find it hard to attract any new people to the platform. I see the switching going the other way around. Most of my friends who were on iPhone have switched to Huawei or Galaxy phones and don't regret at anything at all.
Apples lcds are better than most android oled screens. While my max has an oled if the phone came with an lcd screen I would have been happy. “Apple being years behind” is a straw man. In fact your entire post is subjective coupled with some anecdotal information (which I’m just noting that is what it is)
They gained 100M new active devices in the last 12 months. Show me what customer base is eroding with data.
Seriously, just stop. You need to know your data or you're just riffing with your own opinions.
I love when a company reports 1 negative to their otherwise extremely positive story and people start saying "SEE, SEE....THE WHOLE BUSINESS MODEL IS FLAWED."
This is a revenue shortfall primarily due to iPhone in China. Other Apple businesses and markets did extremely well and price increases have not impacted those areas.
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Ah yes, more anecdotal "my friends" data.
People are not switching. 100M new units in the installed base, growing to 1.4B.
"Years behind in screen tech." Based on what? It's an OLED Samsung/LG panel that is actually designed in a way many Android phones STILL haven't matched because they all have chins. They are color accurate to an industry leading standard and consistently test either the best or among the best displays in the industry. Or do you think DXOmark has nothing on your subjectivity and anecdotal data?
The services business grew 25% y/y to $10.8B in 90 days. That's a business almost the size of the entire Walt Disney company.