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We could all have been in the running if he had planned things that way, heck, he could even have made a special Golden Ticket App where whoever solved all the Apple related puzzles first would win the position.

Anyway, all the best to Tim.

No, you hide the golden ticket inside of MacBook Air's or iPad's :D
 
Whether you close with "I jest", it is still a poor stereotype to toss out. I think his orientation is certainly fair game for discussion, if only for another role model and example to troubled gay teens that they're not "alone". The more we come to realize that we are surrounded by normal, contributing members of society that are gay, the more accepted and less shunned these youth will feel.

This. And why mentioning it makes sense.
 
Oh, and another thing that would have been more significant news-wise:

Steven Jobs stepped down and Tim Cook didn't get the CEO spot. If that happened, wow. That would probably hurt Apple immensely if not cripple them.
 
Tim's been running the show for quite a while now. He'll do fine.

He's got the most talented group in tech on his team.

The only concern is the possible lack of this:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/2...les-vic-gundotra-on-a-sunday-about-this-icon/

Steve Jobs' ferocious attention to detail, no-holds-barred leadership, and unyielding vision (vision despite criticism, vision despite the ignorance of the industry) has to continue. He combined a**hole + talent in an amazing way. I hope that sort hungriness and demanding style of leadership persists at Apple.

Apple is successful because the company sticks to a vision. Apple goes their own way. No focus groups, no consulting the public (eve if it does happen it's kept to a stark minimum.) Just giving consumers what Apple decides they want, and then - PRESTO - Consumers demand more of it.

On it

Jonathan Ive

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Tim looks like he is up to the challenge, remember steve will probably be an office door away. so i believe apple won't change, we will have to wait and see.
 
Of course some people will bring it up in inappropriate or immature ways but the fact that he is gay is not totally unremarkable. I think it is very cool that an openly gay man has earned the CEO position of one of the most powerful companies on the planet, can you imagine that happening even 20 years ago?

It's significant because it makes him an excellent role model for any gay male who is concerned about his hopes of advancing in a professional environment. Just like women in leadership roles serve as role models.

Two good points, IMO. It shouldn't be significant except as a role model.

Tim Cook made #1 on Out Magazine's 2011 Power 50 List of most influential LGBT Americans.

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Let's see what Apple looks like in 5 years...no doom and gloom here by me even though a second look at my post sounds a tad negative.

But I've heard the "I want you to be confident that Apple is not going to change. I cherish and celebrate Apple's unique principles and values. Steve built a company and culture that is unlike any other in the world and we are going to stay true to that--it is in our DNA." speech numerous times before in other companies and/or reading CEO resignations in the press.

Let's face it, Apple has been up and down since inception...as many companies are...especially technology companies.

I'd like to see what Apple does in the future for:

-iPhone development
-Mac pricing and more models
-iPad

Those are the only 3 items that I think Apple truly makes...the iPods are a commodity and have been for years. iTunes sells music but it could vaporize like any other software/service when something else comes along.

I'd also like to see what Apple is going to dream up next...maybe something in tv land or general appliance integration (like all those automated refrigerators we've been hearing about for 15 years).

I'm sure the next few years will be easy as Jobs has basically set the stage for the above 3 current products (and hence their roadmaps 36 months out are already set in stone I am sure)...let's see what happens when Tim really has to make some decisions.
 
Though he is Gay, I don't see how that is relevant. He is now "One of the most powerful man in Silicon Valley," the gay part doesn't have to be included.

I disagree. In my opinion, this is the progression of understanding and maturity:

First, there is hate, discrimination, bias, etc.

Second, there is "color blindness" or "political correctness". Don't say he's gay! Why mention it! I'd better down rank anyone that mentions he's gay! Oh god, don't call that guy a "Mexican" or "Chinese"! We're all the same.

Lastly, there is ACKNOWLEDGMENT and appreciation of our differences, understanding of where we came from, but without letting it lead to hate. This is the most nuanced and difficult place to arrive at.

YES, black people and Asian people and white people are all different. EQUAL,, but different. It'd be ridiculous to sweep our differences under the carpet and say that a Japanese person is the same as a Frenchman. Let's see our differences, appreciate them, and move on with our business.

The fact is, homosexuals are persecuted the world over, and are still discriminated against today. OF COURSE it's worth mentioning that Tim Cook, a homosexual, is now the CEO of the world's most valuable tech company. It would be unthinkable 20 years ago. The fact that he's homosexual is not relevant to his job performance, capability, etc. But it's worth mentioning as a marker of the progress we've made as a society.
 
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Whether you close with "I jest", it is still a poor stereotype to toss out. I think his orientation is certainly fair game for discussion, if only for another role model and example to troubled gay teens that they're not "alone". The more we come to realize that we are surrounded by normal, contributing members of society that are gay, the more accepted and less shunned these youth will feel.

-29 on my joke. :D

"MacRumours: The most sensitive message board on the internet."
 
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Tim's been running the show for quite a while now. He'll do fine.

He's got the most talented group in tech on his team.

The only concern is the possible lack of this:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/2...les-vic-gundotra-on-a-sunday-about-this-icon/

Steve Jobs' ferocious attention to detail, no-holds-barred leadership, and unyielding vision (vision despite criticism, vision despite the ignorance of the industry) has to continue. He combined a**hole + talent in an amazing way. I hope that sort hungriness and demanding style of leadership persists at Apple.

Apple is successful because the company sticks to a vision. Apple goes their own way. No focus groups, no consulting the public (eve if it does happen it's kept to a stark minimum.) Just giving consumers what Apple decides they want, and then - PRESTO - Consumers demand more of it.


not true at all

all the idevices collect metrics behind the scenes on how people use the devices and send it back to apple or it's uploaded at the genius bar
 
Now the most powerful gay man in Silicon Valley.

Maybe they will go back to the rainbow apple logo!
 
I disagree. In my opinion, this is the progression of understanding and maturity:

First, there is hate, discrimination, bias, etc.

Second, there is "color blindness" or "political correctness". Don't say he's gay! Why mention it! I'd better down rank anyone that mentions he's gay! Oh god, don't call that guy a "Mexican" or "Chinese"! We're all the same.

Lastly, there is ACKNOWLEDGMENT and appreciation of our differences, understanding of where we came from, but without letting it lead to hate. This is the most nuanced and difficult place to arrive at.

YES, black people and Asian people and white people are all different. EQUAL,, but different. Let's see our differences, appreciate them, and move on with our business.

The fact is, homosexuals are persecuted the world over, and are still discriminated against today. OF COURSE it's worth mentioning that Tim Cook, a homosexual, is now the CEO of the world's most valuable tech company. It would be unthinkable 20 years ago. The fact that he's homosexual is not relevant to his job performance, capability, etc. But it's worth mentioning as a marker of the progress we've made as a society.

The fact that him being homosexual is not relevant to his job performance, capability etc. is worth mentioning as a maker of the progress we need to make as a society. :- )
 
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he is only half black.

This is such an ignorant remark. So you think racist kids during his childhood or "skinheads" treated him as a "white" kid because of his geneology. He posseses the physical traits of a "black" man, and as such was discriminated against as a "black" man. As if the bigots in our society treated him as a white man due to the race of one of his parents. Your "half black" comment would suggest society would give consideration to what is on the inside figuratively or (literally in this case). But we all know, unfortunately, that people are judged all too frequently by what's on the outside. On the outside, regardless of his geneology, bigots see Obama simply as a "black" man, or not as a "white" man.
 
not true at all

all the idevices collect metrics behind the scenes on how people use the devices and send it back to apple or it's uploaded at the genius bar

It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them.

Steve Jobs BusinessWeek, May 25 1998
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*sigh*, leave it to gay people to make a big deal out of Tim's sexual orientation. Notice how it's the gay forum members that are finding this relevent, the rest of us don't know and frankly don't care about Tim's sexual orientation.

It does not matter.
 
I agree with Tim when he says Apple is not going to change ... Steve stepping down will not change Apple ... the company has vision and we shall all see how innovative they will be.

looking forward to the future Apple :D
 
Absolutely

This is such an ignorant remark. So you think racist kids during his childhood or "skinheads" treated him as a "white" kid because of his geneology. He posseses the physical traits of a "black" man, and as such was discriminated against as a "black" man. As if the bigots in our society treated him as a white man due to the race of one of his parents. Your "half black" comment would suggest society would give consideration to what is on the inside figuratively or (literally in this case). But we all know, unfortunately, that people are judged all too frequently by what's on the outside. On the outside, regardless of his geneology, bigots see Obama simply as a "black" man, or not as a "white" man.

If you are suggesting that Steve Jobs should run for president then I couldn't agree more. He definitely has my vote, even though I'm English.
( Prime minister and American legal system may disagree, but heck with all that formality, Steve for president all the way!)
 
I don't mean to single out your post but I just don't get this line of thinking. Apple was hardly a company run by one before today nor will it be after. Why would Cook change anything? Apple has pretty much been firing on all cylinders for years now. THey have a strategy and they are executing it, regardless who sits in the corner office.

I think (and I admit there is no proof) that Steve Jobs had a few strong aversions that were mainly his. "Who want's a stylus?" is what he said when they released the first iPhone. Not having a micro USB port on a phone. Not having a white iPhone because the color wasnt perfect in his view. There is the one button mouse. There were others that I just now don't remember.

With Steve much less involved in these decisions I hope his aversion to some things doesn't matter anymore and other people can actually get their ideas the realized.

But you are correct, I don't expect major changes. Just small things like a real stylus.:)
 
What has changed, however, is that Jobs is not coming back. This, i and others, read as Jobs (sad as it may be) doesnt have that much longer to live.

Plain and simple.

Not really. He will still show up, just not signing the checks. The fact that he's still going to be CoB, and still on the Disney board says he's not on his deathbed.
 
*sigh*, leave it to gay people to make a big deal out of Tim's sexual orientation. Notice how it's the gay forum members that are finding this relevent, the rest of us don't know and frankly don't care about Tim's sexual orientation.

It does not matter.

It simply doesn't matter to you. That is far from meaning "it does not matter". Not everyone is wise enough to understand the difference.
 
with Jobs still being Chairman, who is to say they won't tag him for Keynotes?

Not trying to be negative, but it would be my guess we won't see Jobs on the stage anymore at this point for a couple of reasons. First off I wish him the best and hope he can overcome the cancer, however most believe that he is not getting better and his health is getting worse. I mean there is a certain point where people in declining health either don't want to or can't put themselves in front of a crowd. Second, if he appears it almost overshadows the new Apple leadership and shows a lack of confidence whether real or perceived. Apple must go forward showing 100% confidence in their new leadership. Going forward you will see Tim Cook and Phil Schiller being the ones on the stage making introductions and talking about the company.

I wish Steve well in his retirement and as Chairman he will still have a say, however Cook and his team are now running the company.
 
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