Tim Cook Visits iPhone X Supplier, Normandy Cemetery, and 'My Little Paris' Startup on French Trip [Updated]

[tgara]

The sight of all those crosses and realizing the heroic lost lives they represent remind me not to be complacent about the resurgent embrace of fascist thought seeping into society today from any extreme of the political spectrum.

I can’t imagine the emotional impact visiting that site in person must have. I hope for a chance to visit it myself someday. Well done to Tim Cook for paying his respects there.

I've been there. It's a very solemn place, beautiful, overlooking Omaha beach. And yes, it is quite emotional. Quiet and neatly kept, like all US cemeteries. I'm sure Tim was moved by it. It's hard not to be.

Nearby is Pont du Hoc where the US Rangers scaled cliffs under withering fire by the Germans.

 

[MachCrit]

well.. he looks taller than everybody else in all of those pictures.

Shorter than the girls while slaughtering the poor, innocent chicken... I was just wondering, always thought that he was tall.

 

[citysnaps]

Get to work Tim.

He is working. That's part of his job.

 

[Zombie Acorn]

He is working. That's part of his job.

He's basically just iterating on what was handed to him. This will work for a decade or so.

 

[citysnaps]

Normandy ? Has Cook ever been to Arlington Cemetery ...... Given his Social stances on various topic, I don't get why he turned up to Normandy Cemetery , or how its connected to Apple. Its like he thinks he is royalty or the President of USA - kinda place they would go to on a trip.

Though if you are going to share a pic, take the hands out of your pocket

Start ups or Suppliers, sure, I get the PR spin here.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had visited Arlington Cemetery. Millions of Americans, including myself, have.

Also, since Cook was already in Normandy visiting a component supplier, why not, as an American, visit and pay respects at American Cemetery where many Americans are buried helping Europeans fight WWII. I certainly would, and would go far out of my way to, if in a similar situation.

 

[kingpushup]

my original post was just a silly joke, but since you’ve turned it into a real argument..

The fact that you call Macron’s ( and other european leaders ) call for unified corporate tax system a “Nationalistic hardline rethoric” and comparing it to Trump just shows that you know absolutely squat about world politics. Maybe as much as Trump. You obviously don’t know what the word “nationalist” means in Europe. Calling Macron a nationalist calling to his base would make anyone roll on the floor laughing over here. As much as calling Bernie Sanders a hardcore Tea Party Republican. In Europe, nationalist parties are AGAINST Europe, not FOR Europe.

Google/Amazon/Apple have little to no investment in Europe ( except Apple in Ireland ). And they are largely profiting from tax loopholes. And if you think Apple or Google or Amzon are going to withdraw their products and services from Europe if they pay their taxes, then i have an Eiffel tower to sell you ( cheap price, genuine article, satisfaction guaranteed )

As a silly joke it was cute. In the US where Trump is wipping up a fever, its less funny. I am sorry for jumping to conclusions, sorry bud.

On Politics. Language is regional and cohort-specific, understood, such that “nationalistic” may vary in meaning. I would substitute non-global” and I can admit that we may never get to a final conclusion wrt the chicken-or-egg competing interests of the EU’s survival vav corporations’ multinational relationships; these ontological units cause us to study thru fundamentally different prisms (apples and oranges). Macron is still looking backward and threatening by executive power, rather than looking forward and constructing tougher enforcement on future tax years. If we agree on anything, the EU desperately needs enforcement powers (US original constitution failed for similar lacking) and I very much see the global value of an EU.

On Corporations. Tech companies are present in multiple nations. They interact with these diverse markets. The result is hw/sw that responds to pain points experienced by these unique groups, which results in purhases and profit.

Separately on “loopholes.” Gaps and multiuse provisions are not usually exploited overnight, but are felt out over time. They are not typically accidents either, rather being constructed intentionally for a specific purpose at a slecific time, or else they are removed or adjusted by subsequent legislation or judicial interpretation. The EU has allowed many flexes in many areas to be used by many countries for the purpose of attracting cash flow that would have flowed elsewhere but for the growingly accepted treatment of said certain areas. Pretty simple.

So, Macron can say Ima Boss and threaten to claw back thereby chillin future flows (which you rightly note are not big anyway), or he can look to build a bridge with tech companies by showing he would never look backwards ex poste facto to change a somewhat settled understanding. He can demonstrate a go-forward carrot-and-stick approach that gives the market confidence in future agreements, he can make specific agreements with Apple/etc for investment, and he can focus the remainder of his energy on this topic as you suggest: lets get EU harmony provisions active wrt multiple countries varied interpretations and lets address the growing need for EU enforcement powers.

 

[Soccertess]

Tim's life as CEO.. parties, photo ops, political engagements, and dongles

Steve's life as CEO.. Develop a kick ass company with amazing products.

 

[riverfreak]

Did he pay for the personal part of his airfare?

Uh, he's a CEO. Not an elected or appointed official using public funds. But you knew the difference, right?

I have visited Normandy and I can tell you it is a very humbling experience, as is when you visit Dachau in Germany..... A lot of good people lost their lives, so we could live a better life...

You should check out Hiroshima, too. Actually, there's a lot of people in positions of power that should visit Hiroshima.

 

[kyleh22]

shouldn't the title here read:
Tim Cook Visits iPhone X Supplier, Normandy Cemetery, and 'My Little Paris' Startup on France Trip.

 

[Glideslope]

You sure about that ? I would have guessed he flies in a private jet. No need to own one, the fare can be barely more expensive than 1st class these days. I’m sure he can afford it.

I stand corrected. Just did some quick checking. He apparently recently (this spring) contracted with NetJets. Sorry about the misinformation.

 

[CB1234]

Uh, he's a CEO. Not an elected or appointed official using public funds. But you knew the difference, right?

You should check out Hiroshima, too. Actually, there's a lot of people in positions of power that should visit Hiroshima.

Hiroshima is on my bucket list.....

Guns and bombs don’t take sides, they kill both sides indiscriminately…

 

[Jakexb]

Did he pay for the personal part of his airfare?

What

 

[MH01]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had visited Arlington Cemetery. Millions of Americans, including myself, have.

Also, since Cook was already in Normandy visiting a component supplier, why not, as an American, visit and pay respects at American Cemetery where many Americans are buried helping Europeans fight WWII. I certainly would, and would go far out of my way to, if in a similar situation.

Ive been to both - the point I'm making , I did not claim it as business related. It was personal . Hence the question, how is Normandy cemetery related to Apple ?

When heads of state visit France, its related, given the landings during WW2, and common place to visit, if their troops were involved. So apart from Tim running for president , how is his role as CEO of Apple in any way related to Normandy cemetery? Does Tim think he is that's important that he represents Americans ? Genuine question .

He is more than welcome to clock out as CEO and make a personal visit in my opinion.
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Tim's life as CEO.. parties, photo ops, political engagements, and dongles

Steve's life as CEO.. Develop a kick ass company with amazing products.

One worked their butt off for the company and avoided the celebrity lifestyle .

The other cannot even deliver a keynote , and thinks they are a celebrity.

Wonder why Apple products are loosing their spark, Tim just has no time away from his celebrity life style to spend time on product decision , other than rubber stamping what is put in front of him and increasing the prices

 

[Jakexb]

Don't know his personal feelings, but if he went to Normandy the city without visiting Normandy the cemetery, people would have criticized him. If people in the US have ever heard of Normandy, it's in the context of WWII.

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

Ahhh... Normandy... Such a beautiful place with friendly people. Even more friendly than those in Paris. The warmth of the the French people makes me want to go back there and talk with them more, in my broken French, learn from them their rich history, and give my gratitude for their help in the founding of our country.

I had a good time in France, and I think a large part of it was the great people I met there, from the people that helped me when I was stuck in an intersection in Paris to those in the metro that guided me to the Louvre, to the waitress that asked me if I really wanted radishes, or something more delicious (I did... the steak was much better...). Even jokes I made about the toast, fries, and salad dressing were well received.

 

[groove-agent]

I don't think stock prices are an indicator of well Apple is actually doing, rather people's perception of the company.

People crap on Tim because Apple has been pretty negligent in the Mac line, which for older Apple users, is (was) their core product. Now all you see from Tim other than the usual keynotes, is his philanthropy. When the company appears neglected and you're constantly seen doing things other than managing the company, it looks bad. Yes, I agree Tim is doing fine, but not great.

I think true Apple users see Apple for what it is - an Apple without Steve. It's just not the same. Tim can run a company, but not lead it like Steve. They need someone who is really passionate about Apple and all its products, more so than philanthropy.

I've owned more Macs than I can count. They were a godsend from the PCs I used back in the day. This year, I have purchased two PCs, and I'm looking to now replace my 2012 cMBP (which has been awesome) with a Dell XPS 15. I don't want to, but it's time for a new laptop and the current MBPs are way overpriced (value wise), and riddled with keyboard problems. It's saddening.

Jesus Christ, can you guys give it a rest?

I swear to God, Cook could find a cure for cancer and you guys would find yet another reason to s*** on him. As an Apple stock holder, he’s doing just fine.

 

[meaning-matters]

And each of those names on the Vietnam War memorial and each of those crosses in Normandy Cemetery represent not just one life lost but all the lives of all the people who loved and needed and wanted desperately for that soldier to come back to them and who had to adjust to life without them. I think that’s part of what we feel when we behold places like this: the weight of all those lives lost and all those lives changed as a result of loss.

Very well said. I also think about the demons at the top that organize wars to gain power and wealth and the soldiers that believe the lies and kill overseas in the so called name of freedom or democracy.

 

[citysnaps]

Ive been to both - the point I'm making , I did not claim it as business related. It was personal . Hence the question, how is Normandy cemetery related to Apple ?

When heads of state visit France, its related, given the landings during WW2, and common place to visit, if their troops were involved. So apart from Tim running for president , how is his role as CEO of Apple in any way related to Normandy cemetery? Does Tim think he is that's important that he represents Americans ? Genuine question .

He is more than welcome to clock out as CEO and make a personal visit in my opinion.

It has nothing to do with Apple. Even Tim Cook is entitled to some free time when traveling on business, like anyone else. He chose to spend some of that personal time honoring American soldiers killed during WWII.

During his free time he may have also gone to a museum or two, a few restaurants, etc.

 

[5105973]

Very well said. I also think about the demons at the top that organize wars to gain power and wealth and the soldiers that believe the lies and kill overseas in the so called name of freedom or democracy.

I don’t think soldiers necessarily believe lies as an impetus for what they do. The ones who were drafted had no say in the matter, really. And people join the military for many reasons that actually have very little to do with a desire for combat. It can be the only opportunity for employment and/or an education for a great many people. Some are actually drawn to the service part, like what we are seeing our military do in hurricane relief in Puerto Rico. Others seek the discipline of a military life to help them overcome a chaotic upbringing. Some want a chance to see the world and would have no other way to manage it. I’ve heard all these reasons over the course of my life.

The armed services provide training that can prepare people for a vast range of civilian careers in medicine, telecommunications, search and rescue, to name just a few. Most of the engineers I worked for at a telco had training in the armed forces that prepared them for the civilian jobs they held, as was the case for my own father.

But I have little doubt there are some very evil people at the top levels of business and the government who collude to profit from war at the cost of human lives, both military and civilian. I can’t even think of one man in particular without feeling a lot of disgust bubbling up in me. People like him will twist all the good intentions people have in going into military service and use it for their own ends.

 

[pat500000]

Tim Cook: You see this? I ain't tolerating with this kind of crap. Where's my boy, Jeff? He needs to handle this.

 

[Cosmosent]

Cook's visit to Eldim is very puzzling ... why would He / Apple want to make it so public ??? ... it's clearly intentional.

Is Eldim the weak link wrt the iPhone X's manufacturing yield issue ???

Is Apple prepping the public, so that when initial iPhone X sales are reported as bleak on Nov 4th, that they (i.e., Apple) have a Ready-made Fall Guy (i.e., Eldim) ???

Or is Cook simply visiting Eldim to find out where the process can be improved ???

Remember, Cook's specialty is "Manufacturing Operations Efficiency".

And why does Cook visit Eldim under the Lime Light of Kuo's recent update stating that Apple has a 2.5 year head start in Facial Recognition (vs the Android camp) ... if it's such a key part of the equation, why then is an $800B company buying from a such EU company, and tipping all this to the world today (i.e., making it so very public) ???

Very puzzling in-deed !

 

[MH01]

It has nothing to do with Apple. Even Tim Cook is entitled to some free time when traveling on business, like anyone else. He chose to spend some of that personal time honoring American soldiers killed during WWII.

During his free time he may have also gone to a museum or two, a few restaurants, etc.

If he did that in outside of work, 100%. So much question is his visit being used by Apple PR? Or is Tim just twitting this on his personal account ? Big difference here.

 

[citysnaps]

If he did that in outside of work, 100%. So much question is his visit being used by Apple PR? Or is Tim just twitting this on his personal account ? Big difference here.

If Apple PR were involved the end result would have been polished and professional. The snapshot of Cook at the cemetery was far from that. Who knows who made it.

In any event, its really reaching to criticize Cook for privately honoring US soldiers buried there.

Curious... Your, "Given his Social stances on various topic, I don't get why he turned up to Normandy Cemetery." Are you implying something with respect to his social stances? That honoring American dead who fought in WWII helping to defend Europe in a time of need is somehow in conflict with who he is as a person?

Which social stances?

 

[PracticalMac]

Oh goodness I need more coffee. I completely misread the headline and thought the iPhone parts supplier was called “Normandy Cemetery.” Goodness. Gave me quite a start.

The sight of all those crosses and realizing the heroic lost lives they represent remind me not to be complacent about the resurgent embrace of fascist thought seeping into society today from any extreme of the political spectrum.

I can’t imagine the emotional impact visiting that site in person must have. I hope for a chance to visit it myself someday. Well done to Tim Cook for paying his respects there.

Want to see impact, see Douaumont ossuary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douaumont_Ossuary

Rather human for a CEO to make trips to cemeteries part of his tour of product related.
And yes, a pointed warning about loose lips.
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If he did that in outside of work, 100%. So much question is his visit being used by Apple PR? Or is Tim just twitting this on his personal account ? Big difference here.

Its the fashion to use personal accounts for business.

 

[MH01]

If Apple PR were involved the end result would have been polished and professional. The snapshot of Cook at the cemetery was far from that. Who knows who made it.

In any event, its really reaching to criticize Cook for privately honoring US soldiers buried there.

Curious... Your, "Given his Social stances on various topic, I don't get why he turned up to Normandy Cemetery." Are you implying something with respect to his social stances? That honoring American dead who fought in WWII helping to defend Europe in a time of need is somehow in conflict with who he is as a person?

Which social stances?

No thanks, not getting pulled into that one. Thank you for Saving US Europeans......

Im sure you can work it out. Feel free to google and find Cooks trip to Arlington ...... or other Cemeteries that Honour war dead..... I found it a humbling experience....