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Time Magazine Names Steve Jobs Among 20 Most Influential Americans of All Time

With all due respect but... top 20... of all time?

I understand that being influential has nothing to do with how much good they have done, how important they were to our society and simply refers to their "influence" and popularity, but still, within the top 20? Top 100 - sure, but 20?

It's just utterly weird to see him amongst Martin Luther King, Albert Enstein, Abraham Lincoln and Louis Armstrong... I can probably think about 50 more influential people before I even start considering Jobs.
 
AustinIllini said:
Sad, but true.
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Disgusting comment. You should honestly be embarrassed you posted that

kdarling said:
Unbelievable. Clearly a bone thrown to today's kids.

Jobs belongs in an influential list for sure, but not within the top 20 of all time.

Might as well also put Ron Popeil in the top 20 list (at least he actually invented some of the stuff he sold).
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I tend to agree.
 
Well-deserved. I think Gates should also be on the list, but probably won't be considered for now since his work is still ongoing.
 
samcraig said:
Disgusting comment. You should honestly be embarrassed you posted that.
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I'm sorry, but it's true. If Steve Jobs were still alive or had died five years ago, he would not be on this list.

I hate Windows, but I know Bill Gates is more deserving than Steve Jobs to be on this list.

I forgot the commandment "Thou shall not sayeth negative things about our lord and savior Steve Jobs". Seriously, wake up, people.
 
kavika411 said:
Hold on, Time, I'm gonna let you finish, but Beyoncé is one of the most influential Americans of all time... OF ALL TIME!
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Really? Of ALL time? You will put Beyonce before Madonna, Whitney or Mariah Carey? :eek:

Edit: But of ALL people, you would want Beyonce's name on the list before Michael Jackson? He definitely had a fair shot at the Top 20 list.
 
kdarling said:
Unbelievable. Clearly a bone thrown to today's kids.

Jobs belongs in an influential list for sure, but not within the top 20 of all time.

Might as well also put Ron Popeil in the top 20 list (at least he actually invented some of the stuff he sold).
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He also invented the infomercial, and what a great contribution that was to American culture and society. It slices! It dices!

I realize you make the little joke, but there's some real truth to it. It's very difficult to accurately assess the importance of anyone's contributions to history so close to the events. We won't know if Jobs really belongs in the pantheon of influential Americans for decades from now, when we can determine how much of what he accomplished had lasting impact. Time is good at selling books but they are lousy at history.
 
macnerd93 said:
Of course :)

In 100 years time he's gonna be talked about in the history books
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Unfortunately, the history books will likely portray him the way he will be presented in the upcoming movie about him. Likely sensationalized fiction. History has always been written by the biased survivors.
 
This is going to sound really picky (and it is, I know) but that Time cover says "People" and according to the article on Mac Rumors the list is of "Americans".

Perhaps it makes it clearer inside the publication? I know that if a magazine here in the UK did that it would be burned in the streets internationally for only including us Brits (slight exaggeration, but you get my point).

I'm not saying a list of Americans only isn't right - Time is a US publication after all - however I think it should make it clear on the cover.

OK. I'll get my coat. I'm going to lots of minus points now I can just feel it. :D

Edit - Oh it's gone! Did Mac Rumors remove the "Vote Down" button just for me?
 
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I want to apologize. I actually read your statement incorrectly. It sounded - at first as if you were suggesting it was sad that Gates wasn't dead (i.e. he should be).

I don't believe in the commandment you presented :)

Sorry about that...


AustinIllini said:
I'm sorry, but it's true. If Steve Jobs were still alive or had died five years ago, he would not be on this list.

I hate Windows, but I know Bill Gates is more deserving than Steve Jobs to be on this list.

I forgot the commandment "Thou shall not sayeth negative things about our lord and savior Steve Jobs". Seriously, wake up, people.
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AJClayton said:
This is going to sound really picky (and it is, I know) but that Time cover says "People" and according to the article on Mac Rumors the list is of "Americans".

Perhaps it makes it clearer inside the publication? I know that if a magazine here in the UK did that it would be burned in the streets internationally for only including us Brits (slight exaggeration, but you get my point).

I'm not saying a list of Americans only isn't right - Time is a US publication after all - however I think it should make it clear on the cover.

OK. I'll get my coat. I'm going to lots of minus points now I can just feel it. :D

Edit - Oh it's gone! Did Mac Rumors remove the "Vote Down" button just for me?
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Time publishes all kinds of lists of this ilk. Here's their international 100 list:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2111975,00.html

BTW, I have not found the full American 100 list. Anybody else?
 
ristlin said:
They may add him soon enough. The guy not only created one of the most successful companies in history, but he is also leading the charge in tackling global problems through his foundation.
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More like padding pockets of the Pharmaceutical companies the Gates Foundation is in bed with.

Do your research... here is one short article. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110919/02495316002/is-gates-foundation-really-looking-new-ways-to-tackle-big-health-problems-when-its-hiring-pharma-execs.shtml
 
samcraig said:
I want to apologize. I actually read your statement incorrectly. It sounded - at first as if you were suggesting it was sad that Gates wasn't dead (i.e. he should be).

I don't believe in the commandment you presented :)

Sorry about that...
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Shoot. My bad. I am really made about Bill Gates not being on the list because of all the time and money he puts into philanthropy.
 
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