Time to Stop and Take a Breath

[Falhófnir]

Since the launch of the iPhone 6/6+ I have never appreciated the camera bump and the antenna lines.

Apple eventually did away with the antenna lines with the 7/7+, but they increased the size of the camera bump on both models.

At a certain point you start to think that Apple considers the camera bump to be a design element. I don't agree with that, I see it as a detraction and I don't appreciate a design with it included.

This is not limited to just Apple for me. I don't care for camera bumps in general so there are plenty of other phones/devices I don't like because of that.

I've been told that it's a design limitation and physics says that the bump must exist. However, the dimensions of the 7/7+ are not different than those of the 6/6+/6s/6s+ and yet Apple increased the size of the camera bump. I realize the 7+ has dual cameras, but they could have replicated the 6s+ camera bump twice (although I hate that look too) rather than creating some lozenge looking thing.

Other manufacturers, such as Huawei with their P10 Plus, can create a dual camera flush with the body of the phone.

So, very simply, Apple purposely chooses to keep the camera bump.

There is nothing I do with my current phone that I could not do with my iPhone 5 running iOS 6.1 in 2012. So, the internals of a phone really have no attraction to me unless said device cannot do basic email, text, light internet browsing and most important of all - phone calls.

Consequently, I can and do base my purchasing decisions on the appearance of a device. And I am not liking at all what I see in the 'leaked' pictures of the new iPhone.

But aren't better photos worth having something on the side of the phone that you rarely see? If you put it in a case it's flush anyway. There isn't any way of making the camera module thinner without reducing sensor size and image quality along with it. Making a phone thick enough to eliminate the bulge would likely spur more complaints about that, and certainly for the plus iPhones make them ridiculously heavy.

One thing I would say is the placement of the camera on iPhones is very sub optimal, it's easy to cover with your finger in the corner like that, it'd be better off about where the Apple logo is.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I apologize but have no idea who Eric is? You mean eyougren? It's all good and I totally get it..people like what they like. It's just the damn iPhone is beautiful lol and to pass just cause of a camera bump is nuts

As has been said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As long as what he buys makes him and his family happy, that is all that truly matters. That goes for all of us.

I am sure if each of us took time to write down what we prefer or have convictions about, it might make others gasp in amazement, while others smile, hear the song of another's soul and understand the uniqueness that is the human spirit.

 

[cnotes2019]

I just bought some jaybirds for my new phones

 

[eyoungren]

But aren't better photos worth having something on the side of the phone that you rarely see? If you put it in a case it's flush anyway. There isn't any way of making the camera module thinner without reducing sensor size and image quality along with it. Making a phone thick enough to eliminate the bulge would likely spur more complaints about that, and certainly for the plus iPhones make them ridiculously heavy.

One thing I would say is the placement of the camera on iPhones is very sub optimal, it's easy to cover with your finger in the corner like that, it'd be better off about where the Apple logo is.

Again, it comes down to usage.

99% of my pictures are about product on store shelves so my wife can see what it is she wants me to buy her from the store.

The other 1% is screen caps so I can show MacRumors users something about my phone.

I don't need what the current cameras provide. My iPhone 5 was and is still plenty good for that. I do have a 6s+ but that wasn't because I wanted one.

Whenever there is an event important enough that pictures matter my wife and I will go down to Walmart and buy one of those disposable box cameras and use that.

We don't take many pictures. In my wife's case that's due to personal privacy and in my case it's an overt objection to constantly being photographed as a child, which still happens against my wishes whenever my parents visit.

I get your argument, it just doesn't apply to me because I don't really use the phone for pictures.

As to cases, well. I'm not a fan of cases. But that's a whole other argument.
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I apologize but have no idea who Eric is? You mean eyougren?

Yes, that's me.

Erik is my first name. The "e" in eyoungren.

 

[Falhófnir]

Again, it comes down to usage.

99% of my pictures are about product on store shelves so my wife can see what it is she wants me to buy her from the store.

The other 1% is screen caps so I can show MacRumors users something about my phone.

I don't need what the current cameras provide. My iPhone 5 was and is still plenty good for that. I do have a 6s+ but that wasn't because I wanted one.

Whenever there is an event important enough that pictures matter my wife and I will go down to Walmart and buy one of those disposable box cameras and use that.

We don't take many pictures. In my wife's case that's due to personal privacy and in my case it's an overt objection to constantly being photographed as a child, which still happens against my wishes whenever my parents visit.

I get your argument, it just doesn't apply to me because I don't really use the phone for pictures.

As to cases, well. I'm not a fan of cases. But that's a whole other argument.

Well it's fair enough of course to not want to use the functionality, and therefore to find the bump annoying (probably mainly so when putting the phone down on a table?) or visually unappealing - personally I thought the iPhone 6/S style bump looked worse than the 7 from the POV it just looks tacked on, at least there's some effort to blend the version on the 7.

But then you have to consider Apple design only one (or two now I guess, plus a size option for one of those) phones for everybody, so it's about what has the most general appeal - obviously most people value better camera over flat phone so that's what Apple go with. Incidentally would it make you happier if the camera was centred? The below is a phone I've owned and i think the camera aesthetic is much more appealing than the iPhone's (plus more functional being out the way of your fingers):

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_925-pictures-5451.php

 

[eyoungren]

Well it's fair enough of course to not want to use the functionality, and therefore to find the bump annoying (probably mainly so when putting the phone down on a table?) or visually unappealing - personally I thought the iPhone 6/S style bump looked worse than the 7 from the POV it just looks tacked on, at least there's some effort to blend the version on the 7.

But then you have to consider Apple design only one (or two now I guess, plus a size option for one of those) phones for everybody, so it's about what has the most general appeal - obviously most people value better camera over flat phone so that's what Apple go with. Incidentally would it make you happier if the camera was centred? The below is a phone I've owned and i think the camera aesthetic is much more appealing than the iPhone's (plus more functional being out the way of your fingers):

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_925-pictures-5451.php

Don't get me wrong. Just because I do not personally like the bump does not mean I think no one else should like it or buy it. I am not advocating that at all. I am just expressing my personal feeling about the aesthetics.

The phone you link to seems to be a much nicer implementation of the camera bump. I guess how much it extrudes (or doesn't) is a factor to me.

Personally, my standard for this is the iPhone 5. The camera is flush and one of the reasons I bought that phone.

Currently I'm looking at the Huawei P10 Plus:

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p10_plus-pictures-8515.php

 

[bigjnyc]

Amen! I got off the Internet all together yesterday, it was getting really out of hand. Just checked back in today hoping the madness was over.

 

[eyedoc2020]

I'll just continue to ignore it and not watch anything on the 12th.

If all the 'leaked' pictures are indicative of what Apple will release I have no interest whatsoever in this event.

I think the ears look on the top of the screen is fugly! Hoping it isn't true and the leaks are incorrect. I am taking a wait and see approach.

 

[Falhófnir]

Don't get me wrong. Just because I do not personally like the bump does not mean I think no one else should like it or buy it. I am not advocating that at all. I am just expressing my personal feeling about the aesthetics.

The phone you link to seems to be a much nicer implementation of the camera bump. I guess how much it extrudes (or doesn't) is a factor to me.

Personally, my standard for this is the iPhone 5. The camera is flush and one of the reasons I bought that phone.

Currently I'm looking at the Huawei P10 Plus:

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p10_plus-pictures-8515.php

Yeah that's fair enough, I have to say I'm not overly enamoured with the design myself to be honest, it looks a little 'topheavy' to me with the camera notch only at the top... but then I wouldn't get an 8/X/Edition anyway as I'm not spending £1k+ on a phone, it's just not worth it to me as I'd not do anything with 3D/VR/AR (though I do like a camera that takes good snaps and vids) and I've already been there with oled and can't say I'm all that impressed, unless Apple have worked with Samsung to overcome the characteristics I don't like.

Yeah I think overall it sticks out as much as on the 7, but has a much shallower slope so it looks flatter. I think it's still one of my favourite phone designs I've owned tbh, and it felt really good in the hand as well.

The 5/S/SE are probably the most beautiful iPhones to date, I'd definitely agree to that, the mm precision and full glass/aluminium design still looks great. I guess the lack of bump is because their size allowed a thicker body without feeling too chunky in the hand - even with the 6S module in the SE. Maybe it'd be worth seeing if they update the SE next spring if you're looking to upgrade from a 5? Or are you set on a larger screen this time around?

That is a very neat looking design by comparison to what Apple Samsung etc are offering - looks like it also combines images from the two cameras unlike the implementation on the iPhone (which IMO wastes much of the potential of a dual set up as the secondary camera is only good for well-lit scenes and isn't OIS)

 

[eyoungren]

Maybe it'd be worth seeing if they update the SE next spring if you're looking to upgrade from a 5? Or are you set on a larger screen this time around?

Well, I still have my 5, but it's not currently my primary phone.

For my primary phone I have a 6s+. Which sounds hypocritical, I know, but I didn't get it by choice. I have it due to a series of circumstances in 2016 that led to my porting out from Sprint.

It will be time to upgrade in early 2018 which is why I am looking at the P10 Plus.

 

[titrau]

English is my 2nd language

I am cousin of Ceo samsung ,,,, it too complicated pronounce a word