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Tivos business is selling subs for its service that lets you set timers, record shows easily, etc.

In the streaming on demand world the TiVo sub has no place. Why is TiVo all in on it? What could they do to streaming that is unique? For example Netflix won’t allow Apple to try to include it in their tv app.

They’re not going to make money selling 50 dollar streaming app boxes. Amazon and roku have that market.

Basically it’s a dying company. I could almost get behind a TiVo for locals over air. But I’m starting to think locals and those 4 major tv networks are dying as well. Can’t remember the last I watched a current local network show other than a college game.
 
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I have a 6-tuner TiVo in the living room and a TiVo mini + Apple TV in most of the bedrooms/office. I was looking forward to selling the TiVo minis and being able to do everything on the Apple TV.

This is exactly my situation and why I was hoping this app would see the light of day. Using the Apple TV for everything instead of switching between it and the TiVo mini would be so much more convenient. Even in the main room with the main TiVo, I think we'd keep it permanently on the Apple TV input if this app were a reality.

Too bad.

It bugs the hell out of me that any live content on most streaming devices don’t have basic pause and rewind features that DVRs had for 20 years.

Yeah, we tried DirecTV Now for a few months to see if it could replace cable, but it was laughably bad compared to any remotely decent DVR. "Pausing" live tv didn't mean you could come back and resume right there, it literally just stopped playing; when you resumed, you were back at live and missed anything from when you were gone. DVR functionality was in beta and horrible as well. At least we got a couple of $105 4K Apple TVs out of the deal!
 
Tivo still exists? I'm not trying to troll or be a smart ass with this post.

I simply thought that with DVRs being as prevalent as they are, whether you rent one from your provider or buy your own.....combined with the ability to record on demand, that it was kind of a dead idea.

Admittedly......I'm sure Tivo has made some changes to try and remain competitive. I haven't kept up with their progress. That said, maybe its because they are no longer a player. Whether you "cord cut" or not, when was the last time Tivo was in the game?
 
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so, in other words "this is on the back burner waiting to be cooked" (...providing there is sufficient fuel)

Plex needs to transcode as well (locally), but Tivo app is the set back for doing this on server..
 
As a VERY longtime user of TiVo, the company is always flirting on the edge of being truly wonderful and then they do some bone-headed thing to ruin it. I don't see why I would want a TiVo app on my AppleTV, but I sure would like an AppleTV+ and Disney+ app on my TiVo. THE STUPID TiVo+ is a an annoying joke and and the pre-roll ads for a PAID service is outrageous. I would cut the cord in a second and leave TiVo and Comcast if it wasn't for the SKIP commercials feature and the HORRIBLE Apple TV remote.

Well, I can certainly agree the Apple REMOTE is a resounding POS, and the dumbest engineering design the world has ever seen.
 
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Probably doesn't matter. People who want a TiVo already have one, and are slowly but surely coming to the realization that its time to start thinking about switching it out. The laggy interface, the lack of any on demand content, the lousy iOS app, the frozen in time app set (HBO Go but no HBO Now for example, despite the fact that the latter launched 4 years ago). Anybody waiting for Disney+ support is crazy. Get a streaming device, start using the services and over time just stop using the TiVo.
EXACTLY...
 
I’m, obviously, super disappointed those apps got canned. The Tivo Mini works well, but it’s more expensive than most anything else, so would have been nice to be able to stream to cheaper devices.

TiVo just doesn’t get it...users don’t want a TiVo app for the Apple TV. They want an Apple TV app for the TiVo. Simplicity.

I’d like that, but nowhere near as much as apps for other streaming devices, which is immediately start using multiple times per day. And that’s not up to Tivo, while releasing those apps is.

Exactly. Why on Earth can't I watch Disney+ on my TiVo yet?

because Disney hasn’t released it. They weren’t even going to support firetv until the last minute, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. It SHOULDbe supported fine on this Tivo streaming stick, but of course that doesn’t help those of us who actions their main product.

They need to understand that cord cutters are not their market, and focus on those who still use Cable TV.

they already do support cable, sodon’t need to shift anything, and obviously “cord cutters” who care about tv are likely to own a Tivo, so it would be silly not to continue to support us.

TiVo still exists?

No, people don’t like tv anymore, that’s so 1950s 🙄

Probably doesn't matter. People who want a TiVo already have one, and are slowly but surely coming to the realization that its time to start thinking about switching it out.

For what?

The laggy interface

The interface has always been fast, and is still fast.

the lack of any on demand content, the lousy iOS app, the frozen in time app set

Not sure what the former means, the iOS app works great for me and always has, and while I’d like it to be better as a streaming device, that’s really incidental. I’d own it regardless of that..it’s a dvr, which is what I need. Sure it would be cool to not need a second device, but those can be literally $40 for a good one.

start using the services and over time just stop using the TiVo.

I’ve been using streaming services for over a decade, but it can’t decrease my need for a Tivo.

I started with a Series 2 and then went Series 3 HD, but once Comcast rolled out the X1 DVR, the service was stable enough that I used the TiVo less and less and finally just gave it away and never looked back. And with Comcast, hardware upgrades were (effectively) bundled into my bill (the X1 had four tuners whereas I would have had to buy a new TiVo Series 4 and a new subscription to get four tuners).

Which would have been both cheaper and better than renting Comcast’s nonsense.

I want to put my vote in for the TiVo app for Apple TV. As others have said, it would be nice to watch from other locations and not have to buy another TiVo device.

About time someone says it, geez,mtv hating people on here lol

I am curious about this TiVo stream, however.Would this be something like YouTube TV? Would it record shows in the cloud and allow us to watch from anywhere? That would certainly be way better than having the hardware!

It’s just another streaming box, like a Roku or firetv or Apple TV. It does use custom Tivo software, which might be nice, as might the Tivo-like remote (though the firetv and Roku remotes are fine).

it’s running on AndroidTV, making it the cheapest AndroidTV device from a “normal” name brand company, which might theoretically be an advantage, versus $150 for nvidia’s.

YouTube TV should run on it, and sling tv is integrated into the Tivo menu system out of the box (so theoretically other companies could do that too, but their apps should run regardless)

Damn. I was really hoping for the aTV app ... and a Bluetooth TiVo remote for the aTV.

oooooh, I like the Tivo remote for an Apple TV idea! That AppleTV remote is wrong on multiple levels, and a Tivo remote + that app would be awesome! Well...actually m come to think of it, you can use a Tivo IR remote with an Apple TV, which I’d be likely to do if I bought one!

The “we have to transcode” excuse is also BS. While it would be way more efficient to sling h.264 around the house than MPEG-2, the aTV has plenty of power to play MPEG-2...

It’s not entirely BS, apparently. Earlier they said they had to limit streams to these apps a bit to leave processing power for the mini’s, so maybe there’s just some weirdness there to be able to support different platforms simultaneously.

and I’m not sure if AppleTV could support MPEG-2 or not. Without hardware support it requires a lot of power (more than my iPad Air 2 comfortably has), and also I don’t know that Apple would even let them.

POSSIBLY the two newest FireTVs could just handle the mpeg-2 stream though, as they just got hardware mpeg-2 support, so maybe... which would be cool.

of course the bolt can already handle two streams to iOS devices quite well, and we already saw demos of these apps a year ago, so I don’t know why they can’t just support them at least at the level iOS does.

Why the heck does the TiVo have to transcode video before being able to stream it to other devices? The video is stored as a standard MPEG-2 or MPEG-4 transport stream that all the listed devices should be able to decode.

they have to because the devices they’d be streaming to can’t handle MPEG-2. The possible exception would be just the two newest fire TVs from last year, which added mpeg-2 support (though I have no idea if it would be easy to actually support that or not, plus it wouldn’t run on most firetvs then).

Hell, the older TiVo units (like the Roamio) have a far slower CPU and less memory than devices like the Apple TV.

yes, but unlike AppleTV, they support mpeg-2.
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TiVo is still a thing? I remember that from like decades ago but I can’t see why anyone would have it now....

why wouldn’t we? Did you think tv wasn’t a thing?
 
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TiVo is still a thing? I remember that from like decades ago but I can’t see why anyone would have it now....
In my house, utilizing our already paid-for TiVo system is less expensive (and gives a much better user experience) than either using the cable company's NVR or switching to a streaming TV service.

The only recurring monthly equipment cost we have for our 6-tuner TiVo in the living room + four TiVo Minis in the other rooms is $4.99 to rent a single cable card.

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Oh yes...heaven forbid that a company listen to it’s customers and give them a "bunch of things people want”. Much better to consider them a “distraction” and ignore them instead. 🙄

But, they have you already. TiVo is only interested in growing their customer base. That's why they will fail. When owning something becomes a labor instead of a joy, that's when people leave.
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In my house, utilizing our already paid-for TiVo system is less expensive (and gives a much better user experience) than either using the cable company's NVR or switching to a streaming TV service.

The only recurring monthly equipment cost we have for our 6-tuner/5 room TiVo system is $4.99 to rent a cable card.

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How about the other rooms in your house? Like a bedroom.
 
Tivo still exists? I'm not trying to troll or be a smart ass with this post.

I simply thought that with DVRs being as prevalent as they are, whether you rent one from your provider or buy your own.....combined with the ability to record on demand, that it was kind of a dead idea.

Admittedly......I'm sure Tivo has made some changes to try and remain competitive. I haven't kept up with their progress. That said, maybe its because they are no longer a player. Whether you "cord cut" or not, when was the last time Tivo was in the game?

I'm not sure how many Cable providers use TiVo as their DVR UI, but I know the two in my area do. I would think there are many other smaller operators using it. It's not a big deal anymore, but it seems they have found ways to remain somewhat relevant in the market. I think TiVo is a great UI and is really a well thought out system.

Who's still recording cable TV?

Although the number of people that purchase cable TV has been declining over the years millions of people still have it. So who's still recording cable TV? Millions of people.
 
I only keep my Tivo Bolt around because it is by far the easiest way to watch OTA TV (dont have cable anymore). Every time I think about getting rid of it, the user experience of anything else will be lower.

I wont invest in their products anymore, but as a DVR, it's really hard to get rid of
 
TiVo is still a thing? I remember that from like decades ago but I can’t see why anyone would have it now....

One big market is older people who still watch regular TV (not streaming). My mother LOVES her TiVo Roamio OTA and couldn't live without it. She doesn't want to pay for cable and loves being able to record her shows. Any time there's an issue with it, I get a call (usually I tell her to unplug and plug it back in and it's fixed.)

I suspect the market for regular broadcast TV will continue to shrink (except for sports) and eventually the TiVo will be no more. But for now there's a sizable population of older people who love their TiVos!
 
I am a new TiVo customer. I purchased the Black Friday deal with lifetime service with a TiVo mini device. Before doing this, we tried a few streaming services with cloud DVR. No matter which service, there were so many problems with fast foreword and rewind. Even cable services no longer include hard drives in their DVR boxes so they’ve moved to cloud also. TiVo was the only option for a fluid experience through and through. We have been very happy with the service so far. I cannot stand the Siri remote for Apple TV so much I use the old silver remote for a better experience. Call me archaic, but it works better and more reliably.
 
TiVo just doesn’t get it...users don’t want a TiVo app for the Apple TV. They want an Apple TV app for the TiVo. Simplicity.

I will respectfully disagree! *I* want an OTA / DVR solution that leverages my TV as the only UI. That said, I do understand the "TV App on TiVo" desire, but surely it can work both ways to address consumer preferences.
 
I will respectfully disagree! *I* want an OTA / DVR solution that leverages my TV as the only UI. That said, I do understand the "TV App on TiVo" desire, but surely it can work both ways to address consumer preferences.
I have heard good things about Channels, which basically does what you are looking for. Requires a bit of DIY to setup your DVR.
 
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How and why is TiVo still relevant nowadays? Who's still recording cable TV?

I am, along with millions of others. I greatly prefer the consistent interface of my DirecTV DVRs for recording network content, the low latency of FF and REW functions, the ability to keep programs for as long as I want, the ability to skip commercials, etc.

When I stream programs from online sources it all feels kinda clumsy, with slightly different interfaces on every app, inconsistent FF and REW functions. Some times streaming a program on one device will mark it as 'watched' on all the others, sometimes it won't, sometimes it will remember my place, sometimes it won't.

I thought Apple was going to fix the consistency problem via the AppleTV app, but all it is is a portal to open the third party apps. That's not what I'm looking for. I was a day one adopter of TiVo, and while I gave up on it years ago, I understand why many people still prefer it.
 
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I am a new TiVo customer. I purchased the Black Friday deal with lifetime service with a TiVo mini device. Before doing this, we tried a few streaming services with cloud DVR. No matter which service, there were so many problems with fast foreword and rewind. Even cable services no longer include hard drives in their DVR boxes so they’ve moved to cloud also. TiVo was the only option for a fluid experience through and through. We have been very happy with the service so far. I cannot stand the Siri remote for Apple TV so much I use the old silver remote for a better experience. Call me archaic, but it works better and more reliably.
This is really it. I think an entire generation has basically moved on from a traditional linear cable/DVR experience, but there is really no alternative to a native DVR for live television.

The streaming boxes are fine for just watching netflix and other paid on-demand content, but the creature comforts of a watching television with a traditional DVR platform like TiVo are hard to give up.

We've been happy with using TiVo Roamio and TiVio minis for OTA channels and figuring out everything else via AppleTV/Roku - so I highly recommend that.
 
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because Disney hasn’t released it. They weren’t even going to support firetv until the last minute, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. It SHOULDbe supported fine on this Tivo streaming stick, but of course that doesn’t help those of us who actions their main product.

Disney+ is on Amazon Fire Stick, smart TVs, Chromecast, game consoles, and even Roku. TiVo can already stream stream Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, etc. That's not a valid excuse.

I am a new TiVo customer. I purchased the Black Friday deal with lifetime service with a TiVo mini device. Before doing this, we tried a few streaming services with cloud DVR. No matter which service, there were so many problems with fast foreword and rewind. Even cable services no longer include hard drives in their DVR boxes so they’ve moved to cloud also. TiVo was the only option for a fluid experience through and through. We have been very happy with the service so far. I cannot stand the Siri remote for Apple TV so much I use the old silver remote for a better experience. Call me archaic, but it works better and more reliably.

Exactly. Cable company DVRs I've tried have been dreadful.
 
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