Tizen or Android

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by jrswizzle, Jun 5, 2014.

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If Samsung went full Tizen what would you do?

  1. Stick with Samsung

    20.0%
  2. Switch to a different Android device

    52.0%
  3. Switch to a different OS (iOS, WP)

    28.0%
  1. jrswizzle macrumors 603

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    Just like the poll says, if Samsung were to completely adopt Tizen across their entire lineup (hypothetical of course), would you still go for a Samsung device or would you ditch them for a different Android (or alternative)?

    I'm curious how much of Samsung's popularity has to do with Android (somewhat behind the scenes) and how much of it has to do with their actual software features and offerings.
     
  2. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

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    Won't touch tizen at all. Cannot stand touchwiz for more than a minute.
     
  3. Switchback666 macrumors 68000

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    Im looking to get my hands on a Samsung Z to give it a try, Samsung with full control of hardware and software like Apple it can only be a better/smooth experience.
     
  4. Phil A. Moderator

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    I like Samsung devices (I've had an S3, S4, S5, Note 2 and Note 3) but I'd move to another Android phone in a heartbeat if they dropped it for Tizen
     
  5. jamezr macrumors G4

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    Lets know when you get one....would love to read some feedback on the UI and hardware blend.....
     
  6. Dontazemebro macrumors 68020

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    I'd give it a shot just to see what they were about but I wouldn't tie myself down to their ecosystem. I don't think Tizen will have much success, they already tried it with Bada and that went sour fast, so if they think they're going to have an Apple like cult-following, I highly doubt it.
     
  7. jrswizzle thread starter macrumors 603

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    Hmm but how popular was the brand before Bada. At this point, there is arguably no more popular brand in the world when it comes to smartphones.

    I'm just curious if that popularity might go to their heads a bit and what it could do.

    On the positive side, more control over software means better integration with hardware ala Apple and a much smoother experience.

    BUT

    We all see what Samsung's software looks like - not the features mind you - but TouchWiz is a bloated mess that many try to ditch as soon as possible. Thing is, the masses accept TouchWiz without a thought - much like people talk about Apple and iOS being accepted despite it's shortcomings.

    Samsung has reached (and perhaps passed) the Apple-level of popularity (overall - the iPhone is still the single best selling smartphone in the world). With that popularity, they may feel (and be correct) they can make the move.

    Which brings up another question - where would that leave Android?

    (This is all hypothetical of course - but it beats arguing about the same old crap all the time :D).
     
  8. Dontazemebro macrumors 68020

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    Yeah it is a pretty good discussion and you might have a point. With their crazy marketing blitz Samsung is literally in every household. I guess I'd really have to see what they bring to the table but if it's anything like Samsung hub, Samsung music, magazine ui etc. I don't see the appeal. There's nothing that really stands out about their in house software. For me, it's the feature set that comes with their devices that I enjoy.
     
  9. Switchback666 macrumors 68000

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    Thats how i see it, most people in forums dont like touchwiz but the masses love it or simply dont care and still buy it.

    My only problem with touchwiz is with the design :) all over the place and with the new ui tweaks imo got better and of course it can only improve.

    Samsung is basically Android at this point, they can def move everyone to tizen and most wont even know it aslong they can get devs on board; things will def be interesting in the future lol makes me want to carry more than 1 phone :eek:
     
  10. jrswizzle thread starter macrumors 603

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    I'm with you - Tizen run Samsung devices would pretty much kill ANY chance, however small, of me using a Samsung device again.

    At least with TouchWiz, I can flash to stock Android....but if Tizen sucks, you're screwed.

    Honestly, I'd almost rather Samsung go this route - I think they would take a small hit but would likely remain very popular. I also think it would give others in the Android world more room to grow and create A TON of competition that doesn't exist right now.

    Android in 2014 is Samsung and then everyone else.....not a lot of competition at the top. Just a bunch of formerly popular brands fighting to stay alive. Hard to innovate when you're just trying to survive.

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    Haha makes me want to carry 3 or 4.....:D

    Ehh, maybe not CARRY but....
     
  11. Dontazemebro macrumors 68020

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    A good question is, will you be able to flash a build of Android on a Tizen device? From every indication Tizen is supposed to be even more open than Android (as they claim) and tech heads eat up that kind of stuff.
     
  12. Lloydbm41 macrumors 68040

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    Tizen is just an Android knockoff. Samsung is just looking for a way to have an entirely closed ecosystem a la Apple.

    One day Samsung might realize they don't have to BE Apple to be a success. They really innovated to compete with Apple when they made the S3 and Note 1. Then its like they hit a dead end and have done nothing new, just rehashing the same design template 50 different ways.
     
  13. MRU, Jun 5, 2014
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    Too early to tell anything about Tizen to vote in a poll.

    Give it time .....


    But remember this.

    1) people associate Touchwiz with Samsung. Most samsung users are likely unaware of what OS Touchwiz is running over.

    Tizen looking and working just like Touchwiz on android would mean many folks wouldn't know the difference.

    2) android apps can work on tizen without much trouble and Samsung are pushing to get more apps on its store.

    3) tizen could actually be a better performing OS as it's newly built rather than carrying baggage of 5 years on android building up bloated services.


    Let's just wait and see.

    Hands on impressions

     
  14. Vegastouch, Jun 5, 2014
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    How can we answer a question like that when we have no way to even try Tizen yet? Right now i dont care about Tizen and im more interested in a Nokia Windows phone in addition to Android.

    Touchwiz as a launcher sucks so i use Nova but i dont mind TW at all with the other implements . The calender is awesome and the dialer is fine so i only hate the launcher.
     
  15. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Exactly my thoughts. I have zero experience with it, so I can't judge. Only thing to really judge off is app support. Many would not want to be early adopters and wait for apps.
     
  16. Vegastouch macrumors 603

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    Well sure if you have all Samsung and Apple devices. Im not the guy to buy the same brand. I buy what i like and i have a few Samsung things like a Fridge and TVs and a old DVD player but i dont have a laptop or a Tablet or a phone from them.

    As for Touchwiz, see my post above.

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    Samsung has a app store and has for a long while so i doubt that will be an issue.
     
  17. Robster3 macrumors 68000

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    Having had both, i much prefer TW on my S5 more than i did iOS on my 5S.

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    I use nova too and agree with the dialer and calendar.
     
  18. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    It seems really late in the game to be introducing a new OS to what feels like a saturated market.
     
  19. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Not really...

    Samsung devices are recognisable / synominous to general consumers because of Touchwiz and Samsung's S-Apps more than the specific version if android that it's running in top of.

    Give folks the near exact same experience on a Touchwiz tizen device and many casual consumer folks will be oblivious to the difference under the hood, or care, as long as it does everything their other Touchwiz device did.
     
  20. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Tizen or Android


    Yeah but I have a hard time believing users will simply give up the Play store for S beam.
     
  21. Stuntman06 macrumors 6502a

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    It's really too early to tell. I don't think Tizen devices are planned for North America in the near future. I think it is only for certain limited markets.
     
  22. Oohara macrumors 68020

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    I can only bear Samsung's UIs as long as I can hide them behind custom Android launchers. Given how TouchWiz has looked to date, I'd be forced to wait until they fire the manatees and hire some actual human designers, possibly even competent ones, before I could even consider using a Tizen device.
     
  23. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Tizens version of it actually looks more refined (not hard I know) ...
     
  24. AxoNeuron macrumors 65816

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    I'd rather stick with iOS. Tizen just doesn't have the broad base that iOS and Android currently have, and doesn't have enough benefit to outweigh that lack of support. I cannot stand Samsung. I really haven't seen Samsung smartphones do anything truly revolutionary. My ancient iPhone 4S could take my heart rate just as well using a free app from the app store, I don't see what is so innovative about their new S5, asides from the fact that it looks like Samsung got a great deal on the same material used to make golf balls.
     
  25. tjl3 macrumors 6502a

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    There was an interesting graphic that I saw the other day, where Samsung made up 65% of all Android phones, with Galaxy S phones making up about 30% of all Android phones and Galaxy S4 (so obviously this was captured before the S5 was released) made up 10% of all Android phones. That is a scary statistic if you think about it. Almost 30% of their Android-share, which is dedicated to their non flagship line, could be replaced w/ Tizen and Google could be on the losing end of this.

    Yes, but Samsung can also be looking at it as this. People buy iPhone for iOS in addition to their marketing, popularity, cool factor, etc. Apple profits off of having their own closed system, whether it is from the App Store, iTunes, dedicated iOS developers, etc. Google makes a killing off of everyone buying Samsung Android smartphones. A killing that Samsung could very well reap if software was entirely in their court. Not only this, they would not be at the mercy of Google controlling software. As a company, there is huge growth potential. And they already have the userbase, 65% of the share, that likely even bigger is way more than Apple, way more than Google, way more than MS.
     

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