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Lol, you guys are ridiculous. It's assertive statements like this that makes people like the OP think you guys have all the answers.

You have absolutely no idea if the next revision of the Macbook Pro will be worth it, none whatsoever. So please stop talking like you do.

Based on apple's track record for upgrades, their usual 1.5 - 2x faster revisions each year. I'm willing to bet a sizable sum of money that it will be worth it.
 
Based on apple's track record for upgrades, their usual 1.5 - 2x faster revisions each year. I'm willing to bet a sizable sum of money that it will be worth it.

Apple's "upgrades" are a direct function of the most recent chipset/processors available by Intel.

It just so happens that Apple's upgrade schedule allows for the inclusion of Intels recent chipset/processor.

With the delay of Ivy Bridge nothing is certain.
 
Apple's "upgrades" are a direct function of the most recent chipset/processors available by Intel.

It just so happens that Apple's upgrade schedule allows for the inclusion of Intels recent chipset/processor.

With the delay of Ivy Bridge nothing is certain.

It wouldn't make sense to release macbook pros without Ivy Bridge only to have them come out a month later. That would be a terrible business move for Apple.

Like it or not, Intel's timeline does influence the schedule of Apple's Mac releases. This is one of they reasons they have been looking into AMD. Even if they never use an AMD chip in their notebooks, they may end up BUYING AMD - because it's the only company that came even close to competing with Intel, and AMD has experience making chips. They could add a significant Boost to the apple Chip line...

Maybe we will see A6, A7, etc. for iPhone and iPad and see something like X6 and X7 for their desktop and laptop lines. For apple, a move away from intel while maintaining PC compatibility would be awesome. Macs could gain significant performance and battery life improvements, depending on what happens. Of course that's all speculation, but my main point is that apple *does* depend on Intel for chips atm.
 
It wouldn't make sense to release macbook pros without Ivy Bridge only to have them come out a month later. That would be a terrible business move for Apple.

Like it or not, Intel's timeline does influence the schedule of Apple's Mac releases. This is one of they reasons they have been looking into AMD. Even if they never use an AMD chip in their notebooks, they may end up BUYING AMD - because it's the only company that came even close to competing with Intel, and AMD has experience making chips. They could add a significant Boost to the apple Chip line...

Maybe we will see A6, A7, etc. for iPhone and iPad and see something like X6 and X7 for their desktop and laptop lines. For apple, a move away from intel while maintaining PC compatibility would be awesome. Macs could gain significant performance and battery life improvements, depending on what happens. Of course that's all speculation, but my main point is that apple *does* depend on Intel for chips atm.
I see. So if Ivy Bridge doesn't come out until let's say, December 2012. What will Apple do?
 
It wouldn't make sense to release macbook pros without Ivy Bridge only to have them come out a month later. That would be a terrible business move for Apple.

Like it or not, Intel's timeline does influence the schedule of Apple's Mac releases. This is one of they reasons they have been looking into AMD. Even if they never use an AMD chip in their notebooks, they may end up BUYING AMD - because it's the only company that came even close to competing with Intel, and AMD has experience making chips. They could add a significant Boost to the apple Chip line...

Maybe we will see A6, A7, etc. for iPhone and iPad and see something like X6 and X7 for their desktop and laptop lines. For apple, a move away from intel while maintaining PC compatibility would be awesome. Macs could gain significant performance and battery life improvements, depending on what happens. Of course that's all speculation, but my main point is that apple *does* depend on Intel for chips atm.

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about.

You talk as if all Apple has to do is knock at Intel's door for some processors (the minute they're available) and start selling Macbooks the following day.

Before Apple (Or any company rather) releases a new product, it has to be tested extensively (Takes a lot of time), it has to be documented (Manuals, Warranty Cards, etc), it has to be packaged (Design/Illustration on the Box), and lastly it has to be shipped (Various worldwide locations for a coinciding launch).

Do you think Apple is going to hold off on all these things because Intel couldn't get a bloody processor in time?

Even when Intel gets Ivy Bridge ready, it takes time to draw up Purchase Orders and all the mandatory paperwork involved in transactions on this scale.

Also, as the other guy said ... If Intel doesn't get Ivy Bridge ready till next year. What do you think Apple is going to do? Risk its profit?

Please, stop speaking so authoritatively on things you aren't well versed in. There is no evidence whatsoever that that next revision of the Macbook Pro will come with Ivy Bridge.

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It wouldn't make sense to release macbook pros without Ivy Bridge only to have them come out a month later. That would be a terrible business move for Apple.

Oh and please enlighten me, how exactly is it a bad business move for Apple to skip out on Ivy Bridge for the next revision?

If I recall right, Apple was the last of all PC manufacturers to get on board the i5/i7 processor train, and yet they're still here with the highest Market Capital of them all.

Please explain to me how it will affect their business from a profits standpoint. Since you seem to know all about bad business moves.
 
Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about.

You talk as if all Apple has to do is knock at Intel's door for some processors (the minute they're available) and start selling Macbooks the following day.

Before Apple (Or any company rather) releases a new product, it has to be tested extensively (Takes a lot of time), it has to be documented (Manuals, Warranty Cards, etc), it has to be packaged (Design/Illustration on the Box), and lastly it has to be shipped (Various worldwide locations for a coinciding launch).

Do you think Apple is going to hold off on all these things because Intel couldn't get a bloody processor in time?

Even when Intel gets Ivy Bridge ready, it takes time to draw up Purchase Orders and all the mandatory paperwork involved in transactions on this scale.

Also, as the other guy said ... If Intel doesn't get Ivy Bridge ready till next year. What do you think Apple is going to do? Risk its profit?

Please, stop speaking so authoritatively on things you aren't well versed in. There is no evidence whatsoever that that next revision of the Macbook Pro will come with Ivy Bridge.

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Oh and please enlighten me, how exactly is it a bad business move for Apple to skip out on Ivy Bridge for the next revision?

If I recall right, Apple was the last of all PC manufacturers to get on board the i5/i7 processor train, and yet they're still here with the highest Market Capital of them all.

Please explain to me how it will affect their business from a profits standpoint. Since you seem to know all about bad business moves.

Jeez. Flame much??
And it would be a bad business move because PRO users need that processing power. It's one thing to get it last, and still have it. It's another thing entirely to not get it at all for another YEAR. Since macbook pro revisions usually come yearly (with the exception of spec bumps), unless there was a significant upgrade to the macbook pro, the "pro" people would NOT be happy.

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about.

You talk as if all Apple has to do is knock at Intel's door for some processors (the minute they're available) and start selling Macbooks the following day.

If you read above, I said "influence" not *control*. Please check the dictionary and realize that influence is NOT the equivalent of control.
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I see. So if Ivy Bridge doesn't come out until let's say, December 2012. What will Apple do?

They would release a new macbook pro, and then do a spec bump or something when Ivy Bridge was available.

However, if it *is* about to come out in the next month or so, Apple will know (because Intel will have already started producing an inventory) and then apple would wait for a reasonable amount of time).
 
OP, if you can make due with your MB I'd wait since you won't be starting school for several months. If you're at a breaking point with your current MB though (I can imagine the lagging is frustrating), I don't see any harm in buying now. The current MBPs are excellent.
 
Jeez. Flame much??
And it would be a bad business move because PRO users need that processing power. It's one thing to get it last, and still have it. It's another thing entirely to not get it at all for another YEAR. Since macbook pro revisions usually come yearly (with the exception of spec bumps), unless there was a significant upgrade to the macbook pro, the "pro" people would NOT be happy.

For all intents and purposes the "Pro" moniker is marketing jargon.

The Macbook Pro is a computer, nothing more, nothing less. Some computers meet the needs of certain professionals and some don't.

So you're suggesting that Apple should miss out on their projected profits just because some "Pro people" will be unhappy that Apple's new offering is only slightly better than their current computer?

Profit is the blood line of a corporation and it comes from sales. Now, when they miss their profit projections, stock price comes down and investors are not happy.

It may come as a shock to you but Apple cares more about its investors than its customers.

They would release a new macbook pro, and then do a spec bump or something when Ivy Bridge was available.

However, if it *is* about to come out in the next month or so, Apple will know (because Intel will have already started producing an inventory) and then apple would wait for a reasonable amount of time).

Exactly.

So you cannot say for certain that the next Macbook Pro will have Ivy Bridge. Apple cannot allow such profit altering decisions to hinge on the off chance that Intel might have parts ready or not.

They have to go on making computers, that's what they're in business for!
 
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