To everyone who thinks they dont have a reception problem

[kre62]

There is a measured 20+ db decrease in signal on the iphone4 when the antennae is bridged. If you are relying on the bar display alone to tell you if you have the problem, you are not getting the whole story. If you have a strong signal already, the signal attenuation will still put you in the 5 bar range. This does not mean that you dont have the problem.

See this chart for details:

 

[LordOBoogie]

Yawn.

 

[chrmjenkins]

You don't have a problem if you're in an area where the signal is strong enough to offset any attenuation.

Why couldn't you discuss this in the 234234 existing threads?

 

[kre62]

Doesn't seem like the signal champions are getting the picture. So this thread is especially for them.

 

[chrmjenkins]

Doesn't seem like the signal champions are getting the picture. So this thread is especially for them.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[LordOBoogie]

Doesn't seem like the signal champions are getting the picture. So this thread is especially for them.

Dollface, I'm pretty sure you are the one "not getting the picture." GAH.

 

[kre62]

Why dont you enlighten me as to what picture I dont get, kiddo

I just saw ten people proclaim they dont have the issue cause they cant get the phone to "drop one bar". Obviously people aren't getting it. Luckily Im here.

Dollface, I'm pretty sure you are the one "not getting the picture." GAH.

 

[LordOBoogie]

Why dont you enlighten me as to what picture I dont get, kiddo

I just saw ten people proclaim they dont have the issue cause they cant get the phone to "drop one bar". Obviously people aren't getting it. Luckily Im here.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[tknice]

Why dont you enlighten me as to what picture I dont get, kiddo

I just saw ten people proclaim they dont have the issue cause they cant get the phone to "drop one bar". Obviously people aren't getting it. Luckily Im here.

works fine for me.

 

[Mikey86uk]

i honestly dont have this problem.

but just for the sake of this topic, lets pretend i do

 

[LordOBoogie]

works fine for me.

Me, too. Never dropped a call and have perfect reception.

But I love newbies who drop in to "enlighten" us all. Hahaha. My favorite kind of newbie.

 

[kre62]

How do you know you dont have it? Have you measured the signal itself using a signal meter? The point is the bars wont tell you.

i honestly dont have this problem.

but just for the sake of this topic, lets pretend i do

 

[stevenisHAUNTED]

I don't have a reception problem, sorry.

I have yet to have a dropped call. I'm sure I won't get one of those until I reach an area that has absolutely no service.

I don't get why people rely on the display.
If it works, GOOD and if it doesn't well then there is your notification of the kind of signal you have.

 

[brentsg]

Why dont you enlighten me as to what picture I dont get, kiddo

I just saw ten people proclaim they dont have the issue cause they cant get the phone to "drop one bar". Obviously people aren't getting it. Luckily Im here.

Macrumors needs to just stop allowing new accounts to be created, just until things settle down. It's just getting ridiculous with the trolls.

If I touch my phone in all the dirty places, but my data is still fast.. and my calls don't drop.. and my call quality isn't affected.. then I have NO problem. I couldn't care less about dB, attenuation, or anything else.

 

[kre62]

New to this forum is meaningless. I'm positive, based on your responses, that I am much more well informed on this then you. You "dont have the problem", yet I'm willing to guess you are basing that on no perceived drop in bars. Which I just debunked as an accurate measure. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Me, too. Never dropped a call and have perfect reception.

But I love newbies who drop in to "enlighten" us all. Hahaha. My favorite kind of newbie.

 

[brentsg]

How do you know you dont have it? Have you measured the signal itself using a signal meter? The point is the bars wont tell you.

The point is that a signal meter isn't needed.

If the phone works well then why would the user want to take a signal meter to it? To see if some arbitrary meaningless number goes down? Why?

 

[kre62]

Its fast because you are in a good signal area. That doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. It does, and when you go to a low signal area, you will be affected.

Macrumors needs to just stop allowing new accounts to be created, just until things settle down. It's just getting ridiculous with the trolls.

If I touch my phone in all the dirty places, but my data is still fast.. and my calls don't drop.. and my call quality isn't affected.. then I have NO problem. I couldn't care less about dB, attenuation, or anything else.

 

[LordOBoogie]

New to this forum is meaningless. I'm positive, based on your responses, that I am much more well informed on this then you. You "dont have the problem", yet I'm willing to guess you are basing that on no perceived drop in bars. Which I just debunked as an accurate measure. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Bless your little troll heart. How cute that you think you know what you are talking about. Aww. Everyone pat the little troll on the head.

 

[kre62]

Because its a true issue and a true hardware flaw. Dont be passive, demand it be fixed.

The point is that a signal meter isn't needed.

If the phone works well then why would the user want to take a signal meter to it? To see if some arbitrary meaningless number goes down? Why?

 

[LordOBoogie]

Do you even have an iPhone? I'm guessing not.

 

[kre62]

Present a well reasoned argument that refutes my claims and ill be happy to discuss this further with you.

Bless your little troll heart. How cute that you think you know what you are talking about. Aww. Everyone pat the little troll on the head.

 

[Buddhaluver]

I live in the hills and I still have at least 3 bars all day.

 

[thep33t]

So you are telling me I have to go out of my way to get to a bad signal area. move my phone from its case, AND hold the phone in a kung-fu-like awkward grip in order to show a loss in signal or a dropped call!?

Maybe If I go snorkeling with it it will get enough salt water on it to fix the issue overall...

 

[rburly]

Those of us with consistently dropped calls are just tired of posting about it and are waiting for Apple to get off their "hold it different" position.

 

[LordOBoogie]

Macrumors needs to just stop allowing new accounts to be created, just until things settle down. It's just getting ridiculous with the trolls.

If I touch my phone in all the dirty places, but my data is still fast.. and my calls don't drop.. and my call quality isn't affected.. then I have NO problem. I couldn't care less about dB, attenuation, or anything else.

Read this again and please shut up.

Thanks in advance!