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Because its a true issue and a true hardware flaw. Dont be passive, demand it be fixed.

Why? It works well where I use it. Hell I drove all around Illinois farm country with no civilization in sight a week ago and the thing was flawless. Based on all the trolls here, I was convinced that I was going to see some signal issues. Nope.

Life is full of all kinds of worries. If hooking a signal meter to your phone is high on your priority list, then good for you. That's awesome!
 
I, and Im sure others, have no problem with you saying it doesnt affect you personally, but that doesn't mean the issue exists. I know you are saying so what, if it doesnt affect you then who cares? But thats a passive aggressive approach. We need to demand apple fix this engineering flaw. It will affect many users, especially those who dont use cases.

And if you go on a trip to a place with low signal, it will all of a sudden affect your day.

So you are telling me I have to go out of my way to get to a bad signal area. move my phone from its case, AND hold the phone in a kung-fu-like awkward grip in order to show a loss in signal or a dropped call!?

Maybe If I go snorkeling with it it will get enough salt water on it to fix the issue overall...
 
How do you know you dont have it? Have you measured the signal itself using a signal meter? The point is the bars wont tell you.

So when the bars are (admittedly - falsely) fine, the call quality is fine, no calls are being dropped and the data throughput is fine, where EXACTLY do you see the problem?

of course there IS a signal attenuation, but if you can't notice, feel, see, taste, smell or perceive it in any way, does it really matter then?

or do you have a problem with people who are lucky enough to not have these problems (to a perceivable degree) to be happy? if so, shame on you!
 
Why? It works well where I use it. Hell I drove all around Illinois farm country with no civilization in sight a week ago and the thing was flawless. Based on all the trolls here, I was convinced that I was going to see some signal issues. Nope.

Life is full of all kinds of worries. If hooking a signal meter to your phone is high on your priority list, then good for you. That's awesome!

Haha. This is great.

So he still hasn't answered the big question:
Trolly McTrollerson, do you even own an iPhone 4?
 
Did you even read the first post? 5 bars after death grip does not mean you don't have the problem.

Well, all I know is when I "death grip" my phone, I stay at 5 bars, so it must be fine.
 
I asked you for a carefully reasoned argument, and you have yet to provide one. Anyone reading this thread would peg you as the troll, trust me. Look at your childish posts.

Haha. This is great.

So he still hasn't answered the big question:
Trolly McTrollerson, do you even own an iPhone 4?
 
Mine drops from 5 to one bar at my house. But in another part of town it doesn't drop at all. I believe it is due to signal strength. I just got my phone yesterday also...
 
Right, see chart in first post for validation of your findings.

Mine drops from 5 to one bar at my house. But in another part of town it doesn't drop at all. I believe it is due to signal strength. I just got my phone yesterday also...
 
All im saying is the issue is there. If its not currently affecting you great. But if you ever move or travel to a low signal area, all of a sudden it will affect you, and you will wish you would have been more aggressive in getting Apple to fix it.

Thats all I'm saying.

So when the bars are (admittedly - falsely) fine, the call quality is fine, no calls are being dropped and the data throughput is fine, where EXACTLY do you see the problem?

of course there IS a signal attenuation, but if you can't notice, feel, see, taste, smell or perceive it in any way, does it really matter then?

or do you have a problem with people who are lucky enough to not have these problems (to a perceivable degree) to be happy? if so, shame on you!
 
Anyone reading this thread would peg you as the troll, trust me. Look at your childish posts.

Nah, still sticking with the guy coming in here, claiming people are too dumb to realize stuff, stating the obvious (like 2 weeks late btw)

All im saying is the issue is there. If its not currently affecting you great. But if you ever move or travel to a low signal area, all of a sudden it will affect you, and you will wish you would have been more aggressive in getting Apple to fix it.

Thats all I'm saying.

Yeah, great, you said it, stop being a missionary about it shoving it down people's throats.
 
Dude theres like 5 people in this thread alone who came in here to say their bars dont drop. Obviously people aren't getting the message. Especially this lordoboogie guy.

Nah, still sticking with the guy coming in here, claiming people are too dumb to realize stuff, stating the obvious (like 2 weeks late btw)



Yeah, great, you said it, stop being a missionary about it shoving it down people's throats.
 
I, and Im sure others, have no problem with you saying it doesnt affect you personally, but that doesn't mean the issue exists. I know you are saying so what, if it doesnt affect you then who cares? But thats a passive aggressive approach. We need to demand apple fix this engineering flaw. It will affect many users, especially those who dont use cases.

And if you go on a trip to a place with low signal, it will all of a sudden affect your day.

Incorrect.

If I go to a place with no signal, hold my phone awkwardly (for me at least), and then remove my case, I will experience issues.

Until ALL three, plus sweaty hands ;o are accomplished, I will enjoy better calling in my low signal areas compared to my 3g.
 
Right. You will experience issues. Because the issue exists. Thanks for the validation.

Incorrect.

If I go to a place with no signal, hold my phone awkwardly (for me at least), and then remove my case, I will experience issues.

Until ALL three, plus sweaty hands ;o are accomplished, I will enjoy better calling in my low signal areas compared to my 3g.
 
This is thread is awesome for all of its trolly goodness. If it weren't so funny, I'd report him for being a putz.

I'm not going to communicate with you until you confirm whether or not you have an iPhone 4. Which you clearly do not. So that's that, then, isn't it?

Putz.
 
Dude theres like 5 people in this thread alone who came in here to say their bars dont drop. Obviously people aren't getting the message. Especially this lordoboogie guy.

And you're telling them "yeah, they don't, but they WOULD ...."

would should could tomato tomato

be gone, pest
 
Right. You will experience issues. Because the issue exists. Thanks for the validation.

its only a validation of people who like to hold their cell phones in a way that 1. results in the phone flying out of your hand from gripping it too hard or 2. holding it in such a way that is not normally comfortable.

My phone doesnt lose reception when I'm holding it normally in a regular reception area. Even better, when i have zero bars in a bad reception area, i am able to maintain a call and use my phone...you know...rather than gripping it and staring at it like some obsessive compulsive.

People who are staring at their bars aren't making calls.

The true test is to actually use the phone while calling in a normal gripping position.
 
Lets say you buy a 4 wheel drive truck. Month after month you just drive it around town. One day you go to the mountains. You try to engage the 4WD. it wont engage at all, you are stuck in 2WD and cant get up the mountain. Would you care?

The truck didn't do something it was represented to do, and when you needed it in a certain situation it failed you.

Why "deal" with a known defect just because it isn't currently affecting you? You never know what will happen in the future. Lets get this thing fixed.

And you're telling them "yeah, they don't, but they WOULD ...."

would should could tomato tomato

be gone, pest
 
its only a validation of people who like to hold their cell phones in a way that 1. results in the phone flying out of your hand from gripping it too hard or 2. holding it in such a way that is not normally comfortable.

My phone doesnt lose reception when I'm holding it normally in a regular reception area. Even better, when i have zero bars in a bad reception area, i am able to maintain a call and use my phone...you know...rather than gripping it and staring at it like some obsessive compulsive.

People who are staring at their bars aren't making calls.

The true test is to actually use the phone while calling in a normal gripping position.

Who are you to decide how people hold their phones? Such assumptions are so ignorant.
 
So you are telling me I have to go out of my way to get to a bad signal area. move my phone from its case, AND hold the phone in a kung-fu-like awkward grip in order to show a loss in signal or a dropped call!?

Maybe If I go snorkeling with it it will get enough salt water on it to fix the issue overall...

I can't hold my phone the way i have been holding iPhones from the beginning. It's frankly annoying. I think the OP is trying to get people to acknowledge this issue. It's really annoying to hear people post about how there is no issue or they don't have the problem as if it doesn't exist. The problem does exist and I don't like my bumper and i want to use the phone the way i have been using the my iPhone for 3 years now. Consider yourself lucky if you live in a good coverage area and don't have this problem.
 
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