To rMBP Owners Who Have ML

macNewbie02

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Mar 4, 2012
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Hey,

I have retina base model. When I wake up from sleep after few hours of sleep the screen opens right away but it takes 3-5 seconds until I can see the mouse pointer and use it using the trackpad. In Lion I remember I could use the trackpad instantly, however if I'm not mistaken after I opened up the lid I had to press a button in order to wake up the machine and it took 2 seconds until the screen was on(maybe it's just a trade off).

How much time does it take you from wake time until you can move your mouse pointer using the trackpad?

Please copy here your comment and also add your hibernation mode number using the following command:

pmset -g | grep hibernate

Mine is in hibernatemode 3.

P.S:
I'm already updated with the latest SMC version 2.3f32.
I'm running ML after formatting my partition and freshly installing ML.
In addition, if I enter sleep mode for not so long, let's say 15 minutes, everything is instant.
I closed all apps before entering to sleep, and even did a reboot and immediately enetered sleep mode - no help.
 
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ANTONkoolaid

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Hey,

I have retina base model. When I wake up from sleep after few hours of sleep the screen opens right away but it takes 3-5 seconds until I can see the mouse pointer and use it using the trackpad. In Lion I remember I could use the trackpad instantly, however if I'm not mistaken after I open up the lid I had to press a button in order to wake up the machine and it took 2 seconds until the screen was on(maybe it's just a trade off).

How much time does it take you from wake time until you can move your mouse pointer using the trackpad?

Thanks
Same exact time as you. I installed ML immediately when I got my rMBP last week though so I didn't know if it was something with the retina screen needing a second or two to get going. Sometimes my screen is black for a few seconds, sometimes it is crazy pixelated for a few seconds. Regardless it is always beautiful after those few seconds...
 

TibookAktive

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May 27, 2010
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Hey,

I have retina base model. When I wake up from sleep after few hours of sleep the screen opens right away but it takes 3-5 seconds until I can see the mouse pointer and use it using the trackpad. In Lion I remember I could use the trackpad instantly, however if I'm not mistaken after I open up the lid I had to press a button in order to wake up the machine and it took 2 seconds until the screen was on(maybe it's just a trade off).

How much time does it take you from wake time until you can move your mouse pointer using the trackpad?

Thanks
I'm not seeing that delay, maybe within 0.5s of opening the screen I am at the password prompt to unlock my rMBP on ML. I have a 2.7/16/512, but I can't imagine that's the reason. Maybe mine isn't in a "deep sleep" or something...

Have you got a lot of third party utilities running in the background that might use a lot of CPU to resume before giving the power back to ML so you can use the laptop again? *clutching at straws a bit here, sorry*

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Same exact time as you. I installed ML immediately when I got my rMBP last week though so I didn't know if it was something with the retina screen needing a second or two to get going. Sometimes my screen is black for a few seconds, sometimes it is crazy pixelated for a few seconds. Regardless it is always beautiful after those few seconds...
I have had the crazy pixelation a few times too, thought I was special. Apparently everybody gets a free "oh my god my screens broke" moment from Apple once in a while, very considerate.
 

macNewbie02

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Mar 4, 2012
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I'm not seeing that delay, maybe within 0.5s of opening the screen I am at the password prompt to unlock my rMBP on ML. I have a 2.7/16/512, but I can't imagine that's the reason. Maybe mine isn't in a "deep sleep" or something...

Have you got a lot of third party utilities running in the background that might use a lot of CPU to resume before giving the power back to ML so you can use the laptop again? *clutching at straws a bit here, sorry*

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I have had the crazy pixelation a few times too, thought I was special. Apparently everybody gets a free "oh my god my screens broke" moment from Apple once in a while, very considerate.
No, I close all applications prior to sleeping and I even did a fresh reboot before sleep.
 

TheMacBookPro

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May 9, 2008
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I was getting a few seconds of non-responsiveness for a few seconds after opening the lid. The screen would turn on, but the clock still showed the time when I closed the lid and it look a few seconds to 'update' and let me actually do anything on the computer.

Then I installed the SMC update (which enabled Power Nap) and that lag disappeared. When I open the lid, the screen is already on and computer is ready for use by the time I get the screen to the correct angle.

I clean installed DP4, upgraded to GM and installed the SMC update over that fwiw.
 

thatguy215

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Jun 13, 2012
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I've been noticing this problem lately too. For me, it only happens if i let it sleep for over a couple of hours.
 

TibookAktive

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May 27, 2010
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No, I close all applications prior to sleeping and I even did a fresh reboot before sleep.
Is your ML installed over the fresh copy of Lion that came with your rMBP? Or did you restore your old version of Lion from a time machine backup (or similar) onto your new rMBP before upgrading to ML? Just trying to rule out a lot of legacy stuff from a well used old Lion install sitting in the background causing slowdowns.

Just wondering as mine is the fresh copy of Lion that the rMBP came pre-installed with and then simply upgraded to ML.

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I was getting a few seconds of non-responsiveness for a few seconds after opening the lid. The screen would turn on, but the clock still showed the time when I closed the lid and it look a few seconds to 'update' and let me actually do anything on the computer.

Then I installed the SMC update (which enabled Power Nap) and that lag disappeared. When I open the lid, the screen is already on and computer is ready for use by the time I get the screen to the correct angle.

I clean installed DP4, upgraded to GM and installed the SMC update over that fwiw.
I have also installed the SMC update if that turns out to be a key factor.
 

andothfc

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Jul 11, 2008
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When you load an iOS app, it immediately shows a placeholder screen while the actual app loads. It makes it feel more responsive. Apple is doing a similar thing with Mountain Lion, according to several reports I've seen online.
 

macNewbie02

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Mar 4, 2012
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Is your ML installed over the fresh copy of Lion that came with your rMBP? Or did you restore your old version of Lion from a time machine backup (or similar) onto your new rMBP before upgrading to ML? Just trying to rule out a lot of legacy stuff from a well used old Lion install sitting in the background causing slowdowns.

Just wondering as mine is the fresh copy of Lion that the rMBP came pre-installed with and then simply upgraded to ML.

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I have also installed the SMC update if that turns out to be a key factor.
Just edited my initial post: "I'm running ML after formatting my partition and freshly installing ML."
 

jeutie

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Jul 9, 2011
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I'm experiencing the same delay when waking from sleep. Don't have the device with me now but will post it's hibernation settings whenever I can. (I am experiencing it on a fresh install of Mountain Lion with the Powernap update installed though it was present on Lion with all updates installed as well.)

If I close the lid, count to 20 and re-open it, it'll be instant. I guess it is some sort of deep sleep mode but my old 2010 MBP did not have this issue. It's just a minor annoyance though.
 
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pianodude123

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Hey,

I have retina base model. When I wake up from sleep after few hours of sleep the screen opens right away but it takes 3-5 seconds until I can see the mouse pointer and use it using the trackpad. In Lion I remember I could use the trackpad instantly, however if I'm not mistaken after I opened up the lid I had to press a button in order to wake up the machine and it took 2 seconds until the screen was on(maybe it's just a trade off).

How much time does it take you from wake time until you can move your mouse pointer using the trackpad?

Please copy here your comment and also add your hibernation mode number using the following command:

pmset -g | grep hibernate

Mine is in hibernatemode 3.

P.S:
I'm already updated with the latest SMC version 2.3f32.
I'm running ML after formatting my partition and freshly installing ML.
In addition, if I enter sleep mode for not so long, let's say 15 minutes, everything is instant.
I closed all apps before entering to sleep, and even did a reboot and immediately enetered sleep mode - no help.
I was just about to start a thread on this... i'm glad you asked!

My issue is that I am extremely disappointed that I have an SSD machine and it doesn't wake up instantly like my non-ssd 13" MBP did. What happens is I get a little fuzzy image for about a half of a second, then the screen goes dark, refreshes, and asks me for my password (normal)
 

cstm

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Jul 1, 2012
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i don't have a delay, within a second when the lid is up I have the login screen
 

vanc

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Nov 21, 2007
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I can confirm it takes a few seconds for login prompt after "Deep Sleep". If my rMBP sleeps for a shorter time, the login is available almost immediately.
 

AZREOSpecialist

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Mar 15, 2009
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Pardon the goofy question, but why is this a problem? When I wake my RMBP from sleep, it takes a couple seconds for the display to light up asking for a password. It is what it is.

Hey,

I have retina base model. When I wake up from sleep after few hours of sleep the screen opens right away but it takes 3-5 seconds until I can see the mouse pointer and use it using the trackpad. In Lion I remember I could use the trackpad instantly, however if I'm not mistaken after I opened up the lid I had to press a button in order to wake up the machine and it took 2 seconds until the screen was on(maybe it's just a trade off).

How much time does it take you from wake time until you can move your mouse pointer using the trackpad?

Please copy here your comment and also add your hibernation mode number using the following command:

pmset -g | grep hibernate

Mine is in hibernatemode 3.

P.S:
I'm already updated with the latest SMC version 2.3f32.
I'm running ML after formatting my partition and freshly installing ML.
In addition, if I enter sleep mode for not so long, let's say 15 minutes, everything is instant.
I closed all apps before entering to sleep, and even did a reboot and immediately enetered sleep mode - no help.
 

macNewbie02

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Original poster
Mar 4, 2012
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Pardon the goofy question, but why is this a problem? When I wake my RMBP from sleep, it takes a couple seconds for the display to light up asking for a password. It is what it is.
Few seconds after sleep isn't really bothering to be honest, (not like safari lag scrolling zoomed in which IS bothering). I guess if that is what it is then so be it :)
 
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mobile-caffeine

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Apr 13, 2010
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I'm having a similar thing except my screen will flicker and flash a blue screen for a split second than my desktop will appear. I've even noticed it if I restart the computer. I don't have my password enabled at login so I can't say if it doesn't happen when I'm asked to log in. I'm sure it will be patched if it has to do with it sleeping. But one thing I have tried is turning off power nap and it has no effect
 

mr callahan

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Aug 6, 2012
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When you load an iOS app, it immediately shows a placeholder screen while the actual app loads. It makes it feel more responsive. Apple is doing a similar thing with Mountain Lion, according to several reports I've seen online.

I would agree with this statement. And the reason being is that it does just that, but just a bit too much. I am personally the type of person that when I see the screen on and mouse moving at the login screen, I'm ready to get going. This is also judging by the fact that the rest of the time the computer is very snappy through processes. It just seems out of place for the computer to feel like its lagging.

I have another computer that takes maybe a second or two longer to wake from sleep. But that's ok because the computer does not turn the screen on to login before it is actually able to be used.

It's all psychological and I truly believe if they delayed the time it took the screen to turn on for a second or two longer, the reduction in lag/loading time wouldn't be nearly as noticeable and annoying to as many as it is currently.

I find the best source of relief from this annoyance is to remember the times when computers took way longer to boot up. :D
 

n8s

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Jul 18, 2012
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I have the delay for sure most of the time, but mine is even worse in that after a really long sleep (overnight) when I wake my rMbp, the screen will come on and the keyboard will light up, but the trackpad and keyboard are completely unresponsive. I have to plug in a usb mouse to safely shutdown and reboot or just hard power off the machine. This is def a big problem!
 

M5RahuL

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Hibernatemode 3

Close the lid at night and when I open in the AM, the clock takes about 2 - 3 seconds to update but the screen is lit up, and the ability to type my password is instant. No lag or wait.

After I upgraded to ML, I did a full wipe / re-install because I wanted a fresh/clean install of ML.
 

JohnGrey

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Apr 21, 2012
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Same thing happens to me. I believe it's something in the SMC PowerNap update because it didn't happen before then, and my rMBP has had ML since the GM was seeded.