Try modding your car engine, then go and complain about anything else going wrong in the car. I guarantee you they would say the same thing Apple said about voiding the warranty
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To those complained about bricked iPhones and 3rd party apps
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Try modding your car engine, then go and complain about anything else going wrong in the car. I guarantee you they would say the same thing Apple said about voiding the warranty
Yep, all together now. Apple didn't brick anything the users did.
If you hacked your phone and ran the update then its 100% your fault.
Yea, but most people still don't understand the Apple viewpoint of computing, be it traditional or appliance - You do thinkgs Apple's way. I have an iPhone, and I think the integration with OS X is great - that's why I use it. Much better than trying to shoe horn the Windows Mobile platform into my now completely OS X world.
On the other hand, it is a computer.... small that it maybe, it is a computer. Apple's excuses for not supporting 3rd party apps just suck. I'd be fine if they just told the truth: We haven't completed the APIs to the point where we can fully support internal development. That we be ok.... This "take down the network" and other security excuses are an insult to the intelligence of the user abse. But then again most computer users are clueless... this isn't 1985 anymore where most technology users had a clue.
If that option had been available a month ago, I would have. Now I have the iphone and like it al lot, including the phone. If the iphone breaks down, i'll probably get a touch and a phone.
But, first of all, the laws were to protect carriers that SUBSIDIZE a phone. AT&T does not subsidize the phone at all, and even yet, they force you into a 2 year contract.
Also, with subsidized phones, they are sold only by the carrier and activated by it before leaving the store.
AT&T is not the only place that sell the phone. Apple sells them...
So lets see the list:
1. Phone not subsidized.
2. Phone exclusive to AT&T.
3. Must be on an AT&T contract for 2 years.
And to sum it all up:
4. Phone will NEVER be unlocked, nor functional (not only the phone but the iPod part too) if not on an active AT&T line.
Sounds to me like unfair business practices...
That's like GM saying you can only purchase gas for their cars from Marathon stations. Using anyone else's gas you void the warranty, and they can refuse servicing the vehicle in any way (even if you are paying for it).
lol, thats a nice comparison
you changed the engine, of course the maker won't be responsible for the engine since they didn't make it.
now, do any of us open the iPhone and changed the cpu? display? touch screen? flash chip? speaker?
bogus.
I hate analogies. If your point holds to the iPhone make it about phones instead of some vague comparison about other products or industries.
Even so, your argument doesn't hold. If my alternator goes, they won't blame the tinted windows. In order to deny warranty service, they need to show that that mod had an affect on the damaged component or system.
In this case it's hardware defect vs software mod.
Hasn't this subject been beaten to death? If you bricked your iPhone after all the warnings, then you have issues with basic common sense. If you think that Apple will support this then you are in for a rude awakening.
Bad example. The law states that in order for a manufacturer to refuse warranty repair, they have to prove that an aftermarket part directly led to the failure. As this is usually more hassle than it's worth, and the dealers don't really care since they'll get paid by the manufacturer either way, it's almost a non-issue. I've chipped my engine, have an aftermarket exhaust, audio system, wheels, etc. and have never had an issue with warranty repair.
I think there's a middle-ground here. My iPhone is jailbroken to run third party apps on it. We're just talking software now. You'll always be able to go into recovery mode and restore the software to virgin state. If I should experience a hardware failure such as, say, the screen dying, there's no reason not to expect full warranty service. If you bought a Mac, chose to run Linux on it and the hard drive died, don't you think that should be covered? Linux didn't cause the failure. Software wouldn't cause a hardware failure on an iPhone.
Unlocking, in my eyes, is a pretty different issue. When it involves modifying the baseband, that would be akin to altering the EFI in a Mac. At that level, alterations could easily (and did, in the case of the iPhone) cause serious problems. It, in effect, altered the hardware instructions that can't be undone with restoring the software. This is what caused the bricking, and I don't feel much sympathy here. If you have an issue with the AT&T deal, either don't buy the phone, or take Apple to court if you think it's an illegal practice. But don't complain when you make hardware-level alterations that cause problems.
umm... did you even read the context of my comment?
It was a reply to
Honestly I'm OK with my phone getting bricked if something Apple does inadvertently affects it, but I am talking about INTENTIONALLY attempts to brick consumer devices.
I guess that's OK with you.
I agree, but this thread is titled "To those complained about bricked iPhones and 3rd party apps". Unfortunately a significant number of bricked phones are not unlocked.
In either case I don't think Apple can be responsible for a software brick due to hacking. unless it was intentional on their part. I feel if you are hacking your phone, you have the liability of keep the software working unless/until you revert back to a factory state. However if a hardware issue occurs, I cant understand them turning the end user away.
You seem confused PLEASE READ THE TREAD. That wasn't my claim. In fact I made comments to the contrary. I was responding to clevin and other's position that we should expect and accept intentional bricking from Apple if they choose to do so.
I agree with the statement 100%. All the knowledge we needed we had, and you defied it, you deserve it. Thats your problem.