To those who say the next iPhone will fail etc, etc.
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ixodes
macrumors 601
The iPhone 5 will succeed just like the prior models.
Apple has too much momentum, a unique cult like following, press that write fawning articles, and droves of vain people who must have the "cool" product with the Apple logo.
All of this is not to say that the iPhone 5 will not be a good phone, but as the followers say, "it's not about the specs" it's about the experience.
In this case the experience is not so much about the phone, but about falling in line with the great American tradition of buying what your friends have.
Consumerism at it's finest.
Apple has too much momentum, a unique cult like following, press that write fawning articles, and droves of vain people who must have the "cool" product with the Apple logo.
All of this is not to say that the iPhone 5 will not be a good phone, but as the followers say, "it's not about the specs" it's about the experience.
In this case the experience is not so much about the phone, but about falling in line with the great American tradition of buying what your friends have.
Consumerism at it's finest.
irDigital0l
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Well Apple does that already with the 'minor' updated phones (3GS, 4S, etc.)
Plus I have a two year contract so I see no reasons to spend money to buy a phone every year.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
What if the current model wasn't on track to be ready in a few months. What about the fact that the longer they wait, the more sales they lose? There are probably a million factors that go into these decisions that you and I will never know. For us to question them w/o all the necessary data is kind of silly.
Personally, I sold my 4 for $420 and paid $299+tax for the 4s. So I got the incremental upgrade you complain about and made money (of course I extended my agreement, but its not like I wouldn't have service anyway). Did you lose money by upgrading?
And sure, it's all marketing. Isn't everything?
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I don't think the "s" models were ever meant to indicate a minor upgrade. I think they only indicate a form factor change.
If you're on a 2 year cycle, why worry about it?
Sedrick
macrumors 68030
Well, if nothing else, I got the OP to cough up some actual sales figures instead of doing a google image search of random crowds. No one doubts the crowds at iPhone releases.
To the OP's point, though, of course the next iPhone won't fail. No one with an ounce of common sense thinks that's even a remote possibility.
I would like to see a sales slump on this one though. Apple could do with just a bit of humble pie. Maybe make them try harder instead of spending all their time in the courts.
I have heard/read one helluva lot more complaints about this new phone compared to past ones though. And you think it's bad around here, just go to some sites that aren't Apple fan sites and it really gets ugly. Just read the youtube comments on this latest iPhone 5 video...
To the OP's point, though, of course the next iPhone won't fail. No one with an ounce of common sense thinks that's even a remote possibility.
I would like to see a sales slump on this one though. Apple could do with just a bit of humble pie. Maybe make them try harder instead of spending all their time in the courts.
I have heard/read one helluva lot more complaints about this new phone compared to past ones though. And you think it's bad around here, just go to some sites that aren't Apple fan sites and it really gets ugly. Just read the youtube comments on this latest iPhone 5 video...
ixodes
macrumors 601
I'm in awe of this breathtaking new iPhone 5. Notice how different it is. How fresh, new, and unlike anything we've see before.
You've got to admire the work of J. Ive... not everyone could make a rectangle look so stunning. It makes my _OLD_ iPhone 4S, look positively outdated.
You've got to admire the work of J. Ive... not everyone could make a rectangle look so stunning. It makes my _OLD_ iPhone 4S, look positively outdated.
While I agree that we don't have all the facts, surely you don't believe that Apple couldn't have included more in the 4S. That is the textbook definition of just getting by. I honestly would have rather had Apple release a software update for Siri and the antennae fix and brand it as an improved iPhone 4 than call it a completely new phone.
As for upgrading, no I wasn't willing to waste any money or time to upgrade just for Siri.
gpatrick15
macrumors regular
Apple releases these incremental updates because it knows that everyone will buy them. At this point, it doesn't matter what they release, millions will queue up to buy it. The Boy Genius Report will write an orgasmic review of it. And it'll be the best selling single phone once again.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
What more would they include? Given Apple's nature to wait on technologies to improve, there isn't a lot more for them to add. Unless you secretly work for Apple and know about some super-secret tech they've completed and decided not to let us have so they can be greedy and launch it on us later.
No, what's happening here is a combination of things. Some people are just upset because they want new aesthetics every time. Get over it, not practical and not sustainable. Some want a bigger screen. I can understand their desire, but to say Apple doesn't innovate because they didn't get the screen they want is an illogical argument because screen size is not innovation. Some want features they've seen on other devices. Unless Apple wants the tables turned on them in court, they can only get away with a little of this at a time. Some want NFC and if Jim Dalrymple is to be believed, we aren't getting it. I doubt Apple is leaving out just to hold out on us.
What I've seen from Apple consistently is first and foremost they stick to having a narrow focus and doing what they do well as best three can. Second, they upgrade the parts (CPU, memory, etc) every time. And when they feel strongly about a particular function/feature, they go all out. Retina display, Siri, etc. unfortunately Siri was probably rushed to market....although I use and appreciate it.
But unless you can point out some outstanding feature or function that Apple has left out and can provide proof of why it was left out, you're all just making assumptions and whining about things you probably don't have all the proper information on.
For me, that feature is a notification LED. Can't imagine why they won't include one. Probably something in their design culture.
Want300
macrumors 65816
Yea, I forgot how different it was until I got my old iPhone 3G back 2 months ago to sell. They picture quality... is SOOOO different.
LOL +1
because no other manufacturer releases only 1 phone model a year. Like comparing apples to oranges.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
I'm sorry but I just don't see why Apple couldn't have released the form factor that will most likely be the next iPhone last year. Stretching the screen doesn't require any new technology that wasn't available last year. And for the LED notification light, great call. I miss that the most from my Galaxy Nexus.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
I don't see it as an upgrade, more of a design theory change.
Personally I see a bigger screen as an upgrade (but not these huge 5.3 in screens. At that point its almost hindering). However, fair enough and to each his own.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
Either way, I don't think it was a matter of Apple just holding out. Perhaps the decision to go 16:9 came very recently (last 18-24 months). It would take time to work out the design and manufacturing from their 3 display providers.
sneaky butcher
macrumors 6502
dude seriously, there's only 1 reason apple increased screen size and that is because the competition forced them to.
point is regardless if the iphone is free or $50 people still took it over any cheap or FREE android Phone any day ahaha.
sneaky butcher
macrumors 6502
iphone 5 did good
bigger screen and facetime over 3g! wow imagine in 3 years time iphone might get widgets too !!
bigger screen and facetime over 3g! wow imagine in 3 years time iphone might get widgets too !!
Wrathwitch
macrumors 65816
The next gen iPhone will not fail regardless of anything. The screen is not different enough to deter skeptics of the bigger screen and the size will not be that dramatically different that it will change how people use or handle their phone. Despite what people fear.
Add to this that Apple only gives up the goods once per year, people are always excited for the new release.
Hell I went with the S3 and although I have no intention of changing it for the new iPhone I am still excited about the hype! It's just fun!
Add to this that Apple only gives up the goods once per year, people are always excited for the new release.
Hell I went with the S3 and although I have no intention of changing it for the new iPhone I am still excited about the hype! It's just fun!
You're attempt (yes attempt) at sarcasm isn't up to snuff. You show one side of a device that is completely redesigned and comment how it looks the same. How about you show picutes of the top, bottom, back, THEN you would have a true comparison. So for you sarcasm = FAIL
ixodes
macrumors 601
Sarcasm? What's that ?
You may not have appreciated it, no worries I don't post to be popular
All kidding aside I was just having a little fun with the one singular image I came across. Their were no others.
ixodes
macrumors 601
I don't.
But we need an interesting design to discuss since the rumored iPhone is so boring & bland.
It makes me crave an interesting, fresh design like we got from J. Ive when Apple redesigned the MBA in 2010. Now that was some exciting work on his part.