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I remember using 10.0, starting early learning how to code for it in Builder then 10.1 came only cost £15 since I had 10.0 and remember it wasn’t until after Jaguar release the next version it was ready for all users and the next two releases is when things picked up fast and now today it’s full throttle macOS years ahead of Windows we’re the old macOS 7-9 we’re years behind Windows as Microsoft was finally leading at that time today Apple & Google are the leaders
 
10.3 was the first version of OSX that I daily drove. Upgraded without hesitation to every version until 10.11 - at which point things started to break thanks to SIP. 10.14 is possibly the end of the line for me with the Macintosh platform as my primary.

Everything at 10.15 and beyond looks like it will be limited to just a web browser and word processor casual use.
 
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10.3 was the first version of OSX that I daily drove. Upgraded without hesitation to every version until 10.11 - at which point things started to break thanks to SIP. 10.14 is possibly the end of the line for me with the Macintosh platform as my primary.

Everything at 10.15 and beyond looks like it will be limited to just a web browser and word processor casual use.
True, but...ouch.
 
10.3 was the first version of OSX that I daily drove. Upgraded without hesitation to every version until 10.11 - at which point things started to break thanks to SIP. 10.14 is possibly the end of the line for me with the Macintosh platform as my primary.

Everything at 10.15 and beyond looks like it will be limited to just a web browser and word processor casual use.
@1madman1 , Just curious, what are your biggest pain points w/ SIP breaking things?
 
Everything at 10.15 and beyond looks like it will be limited to just a web browser and word processor casual use.
Hordes of programmers know how false this is. MBPs are extremely popular among developers, and they are great devices. Photo and Video editors mostly use Macs too. Big Sur hasn’t changed that.
 
Hordes of programmers know how false this is. MBPs are extremely popular among developers, and they are great devices. Photo and Video editors mostly use Macs too. Big Sur hasn’t changed that.
Big Sur does change things if all your peripherals and software stop working, some of which have no replacements. 90% of the software I use apart from what comes bundled with the OS does not work in anything newer than 10.14.
 
Big Sur does change things if all your peripherals and software stop working, some of which have no replacements. 90% of the software I use apart from what comes bundled with the OS does not work in anything newer than 10.14.
You must have very specialized software then. What programs are you using that don’t work? Are the developers just giving up on the Mac in the future or are they releasing new versions for the new OS and the Apple Silicon processors?
 
Yes, Snow Leopard was amazing OS. But everybody keeps forgeting that it was buggy at first. Only after all these updates it became solid as a rock.

My first of the favorites was Mac Panther OS. It was first OS that was nice, clean, minimal and very stable compared to what was on the market. I would agree that they should drop yearly release cycles. This benefits nobody. OS is a matured platform that need just regular updates. I don't want any radical changes..
Nothing beats Tiger though!
 
Is Tiger more stable than Panther? Probably yes.

But with my QEMU experiments, I've found Panther (and Jaguar) to be much more faster and responsive than Tiger and anything after Tiger. Too bad that Panther does not have the excellent TenFourFox browser.

Leopard is terribly slow.

The scenario may (and should) be completely different when we install them on the real thing. Here, Tiger most probably is the winner.
 
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Don’t punch me, but I actually liked Windows 98 SE and 2000 back then, before moving on to Apple side and get Snow Leopard, back in 2009/2010. Along with Windows For Workgroups 3.11 (which was my main system when I was a little kid), these three Windows versions were my favorite. The other versions are complete (censored) and garbage.

How could you like Windows 98? don't you remember the sudden blue screen of deaths? Explorer? the viruses?

Why did you switch to mac then?!
 
I want the colors back - why is every thing so Grey in the Finder..
Seems pretty colourful to me
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How could you like Windows 98? don't you remember the sudden blue screen of deaths? Explorer? the viruses?

Why did you switch to mac then?!

Q1: Windows 98SE, when correctly set up, does not give me a bsod. But I’ve had more bsods with vista, 7 and 8 than I could count for 98. However, 95 had much more.

Q2: The iPhone drove me to this. That and a friends influence on me to get one. I am not a diehard fan of any; I like the strengths of both worlds. My entire childhood was filled with Windows games; my professional life is all on macOS. Times change, the world changes. I might switch to a Linux distro in the future. Who knows?
 
Q1: Windows 98SE, when correctly set up, does not give me a bsod. But I’ve had more bsods with vista, 7 and 8 than I could count for 98. However, 95 had much more.

Q2: The iPhone drove me to this. That and a friends influence on me to get one. I am not a diehard fan of any; I like the strengths of both worlds. My entire childhood was filled with Windows games; my professional life is all on macOS. Times change, the world changes. I might switch to a Linux distro in the future. Who knows?

98SE was pretty solid, and Im one of those folks that had no problems running ME either and loved it until I moved to 2000. My DOSBox Windows setup runs 98SE. 98 though.. Installed that when it launched and due to something not working, decided to use the 'rollback' feature to go back to my 95 install. Yeah that was the first and LAST time I ever used the rollback feature.

2000 was awesome, especially when it became feasible for audio production work. I ended up moving to a blue and white G3 around the time XP came out when someone decided that 100% Windows based me was 'the new Mac support guy' at work. When I told them I started out with Apple computers I guess they didn't realize I meant my ][e and ][c..
 
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Yeah, 2000 was rock solid. If I can recall correctly, from 1990 to 1995 I've been using Win 3.x, and 95 to 98 used 95, from 98 to 2000 I used 98 and later, Windows 2000 Professional (I've skipped Me because it was $#*%$*%$). And next on list was XP... Vista... rollback to XP... I was a few weeks with Windows 7 when my dad came with two MacBook Pros in 2009/2010, both Snow Leopard powered, and I got one of them. 11 years ago was my turning point to an Apple ecosystem life. Very good decade for me and my computers. I now have a second-hand 2013 rMBP 13", an 2017 iPad Pro, 2017 iPhone X and the 4th gen Watch. Recently, my dad gifted me his old 1st gen iPod nano.

I am also hearing impaired since I was born. In 2007, I got a cochlear implant from Cochlear Americas, and I was able not only to hear, but also be more social and have better interaction at work. However, I still had one problem - nothing I had tried before was able to let me wake up at the right time to start the day. Until I got the Apple Watch - the vibration is enough to wake me up early and on time to start my day with a breakfast and remote work.

I have not seen or done a serious work in a Windows computer for the last three years. Period. Last time I ever done professional work with Windows was in a government health institute, around 2015.

However, I have a Windows 10 VM for the sole purpose of doing work receipts to my clients (my government does not have a mac version for that) for my work as an independent UI/UX designer and a few retro games like Grand Prix 4, Flight Simulator 98 and Counter-Strike 1.6. I have many more retro DOS/Windows games in x86 emulators, thanks to UTM on iOS/macOS.

The 2010 MBP wasn't my first interaction - I did some photoshop homeworks with a G3 blue iMac around 2003/2004, the lab at university had a few G3 macs. The G3 and OS X Tiger was my first ever interaction with an Apple computer. I think it was Tiger (or Panther?) OS X Jaguar because it had the Aqua interface.

Currently, I am enjoying some time fiddling with macOS 9.2.2 and amazed with it's simplicity how good it was. I tried to make a QEMU VM of Rhapsody DR2, but ultimately failed to do that. Might try again OS X Panther or Tiger just for fun.

I'm basically just another story of an Windows user converted in an Apple user. However I am still fond of my childhood memories playing games within Windows, so during the pandemic I had a lot of interest in retro gaming and emulators.
 
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Remember how some versions of the OS couldn't be installed on older hardware because of a lack of a certain kind of graphics processor? It's not like we're talking about a game here. This is an operating system. It used to be that an operating system would scale down graphics on older systems. Think about how Windows had its basic 16 color palette at one point for people who had a basic, no-frills system with regular VGA graphics and needed their computer for things like word processing.
If I remember correctly, that was down to the fact that the OS started rendering windows as textures on 3D objects. Using what was considered “game” technology to provide a graphical boost. That OS requirement actually led to decent 3D graphics chips being included in all new Macs. And, the Macs we have today are a direct result of Apple doing things like cutting off older systems that potentially held back progress.
 
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It took Jobs to focus on revamping (and simplifying) the Mac line to buy Apple the time to finish OS X. And, honesty, it wasn't until the iPod came about did Apple finally have the cash to do it right. That was something no previous CEO seemed to have the stomach to do.
They had no stomach to do it because back then, it was largely folks that owned Macs that were buying Macs. If any previous CEO had said to kill the things that Steve Jobs said to kill on his return, that would have turned away those Mac users/owners and caused the market to crater. That would have killed the company. If they hadn’t bought NeXT, I really doubt that Apple would be around today. What needed to be done could only have been done by Steve Jobs.
 
It also provided a first glimpse at the Mac OS X UI on Mac OS 9 (for anyone who wasn't running Mac OS X already) since it used Aqua scrollbars etc.. That was a lot of fun to use at the time, especially once the iPod was released.

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It was even more amazing because i had just installed a cd burner in my Windows ME pc, just got high speed internet and napster had just come out along with the fact I had just installed a cdplayer in my 1992 Camaro z28 along with just getting a 1st gen 5gb iPod and an ibook. Add to that an Fm radio tuner for the iPod and man I was in heaven lol. I don't know how much money I wasted burning cds that year. I remember bringing the iPod to school and everyone thought it was the coolest thing ever since everyone still had sony walkmans and like those expensive 32mb mp3 players.
 
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I want the colors back - why is every thing so Grey in the Finder..
i feel your pane!
everyone should select the colors they feel is perfect for them!
does BigSur or safari have browser options?
i did some tweeking in Mojave were the search was blue, but that was in 2019 and i had to refresh that seting
 
What is surprising is that there are nearly as many California location naming scheme releases as there were the big cat releases. It doesn’t feel like they switched that long ago.
 
if this OSX past celebration is still relevant, I inserted a SSD with mountain lion in place of Mojave and the interface, graphics and depth is much easier to see and faster.
I feel more comfortable.
I might stick to this OSX for a while
 
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