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clayj said:
Tom Cruise has LOST IT.

From my perspective - he never HAD it to lose in the first place.

My hope is that War of the World flames out and we hear little to nothing from this over-blown, predictable hack for quite some time.
 
jared,

thanks for the link, i was finally able to see it without msbs.

i think tom is actually losing it. he reads research papers? r u kidding me?
 
OldManJimbo said:
My hope is that War of the World flames out and we hear little to nothing from this over-blown, predictable hack for quite some time.

Seems unlikely, considering he's one of the most powerful people in the movie industry. Maybe if it comes out that he hooked Katie up to a brainwashing device. It would have to be something pretty bad.
 
Les Kern said:
Let's see... been to the Vatican lately? Think St. Pauls Catherdral was built from thin air and not off the backs of the poor? So 600K from someone who HAS it is different than 100.00 from someone who doesn't? Come read the letters from our local church wondering where the tithe is, that you're not reaching the "goal", recommending 10% of your yearly salary. Talk to my Grandmother, who was denied "membership" in the local church (Maryland Synod) because she had a "gasp!" divorce. Watch as Cardinal Law tries to cover up pedophile priests' dirty work by moving them from parish to parish, always signing the letters "Your's in Christ". It's all crap, so
What the HECK is your point? Mine is is that they are ALL cults. So there, I said it.

Good for you! I hope you feel better, have a cookie! :p
 
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scientologists, jehovah witnesses, mormons, hasidic jews, Rajneesh, Amish, islamic fundamentalists, opus dei, raelians, evangelists, heaven's gate, hindu, wicca, druids, [insert your favourite cult/sect/religion]...

it comes down to two simple questions:

1. do you still believe in Santa Klaus?
2. why not?
 
Don't panic said:
scientologists, jehovah witnesses, mormons, hasidic jews, Rajneesh, Amish, islamic fundamentalists, opus dei, raelians, evangelists, heaven's gate, hindu, wicca, druids, [insert your favourite cult/sect/religion]...

it comes down to two simple questions:

1. do you still believe in Santa Klaus?
2. why not?

Shallow lives breed shallow people.
 
keysersoze said:
Tom Cruise is just a nut.

I think he lost his mind right about the time he had his mid-life crisis.

The man is just out of his f***ing mind.
And almost out of his hair.
 

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jared_kipe said:
I had a theory, and it was just confirmed.

SoccerBoy- You have one post, so let me get this strait, you JOINED the forum to say that this thread was pointless. Wow.

Italian Artist- You have 4 posts, all in this thread. Wow.

And lastly Restless~native- You have more than 1/2 of your posts in here, so I don't have a problem. Just mighty peculiar that so many n00bs took notice to this one particular thread.

and SoccerBoy's sig falls smack dab in ths dissussion.
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Classic.
 
Italian Artist said:
Actually, I happened to be doing a Google search without the intention of coming up on this. However, upon reading the idiocy and the unwarranted criticizing that was occurring, I decided to give you guys some competition. Also, since when does typing a couple of posts in the beginning qualify anyone as a noob?! I am not going to begin to insult anyone on the matter, because I know I wouldn't want someone to be insulting me. However, I know that the many lot of you are criticizing Tom on one interview. And what's more, I bet some of you are simply backing up others on here, without any actual experience or knowingness in the matter! Also, on the matter of Scientology, can anyone tell me what it is, 'cause I'm confused. I mean, what's Scientology about?

I was critical of Scientology because all the information publicly available makes the religion a cult based on the delusions of grandeur from a man who lied about his military record, publicly stated he wanted to start a religion and got into a pissing contest about psychology. Scientology fits into all the definitions of a cult, including the requirement to spend money in order to attain enlightenment.
I'm not criticizing Tom Cruise—interesting you use his first name, like you know the guy—because of an interview, I'm criticizing anyone who depends on charlatans for their spiritual advances. If you don't know what Scientology is, then how can you call other postings "idiocy" and "unwarranted critici[sm]."
As for the "noob" comment you will be a "noob" until you become a regular, hence the nature of forums.
 
I was always taught to treat religion like body odor,
If you got it, keep it to yourself, because if you let out the funk, you are guaranteed to offend.
 
jared_kipe said:
Glanced through, are you aware that there are no lasting side effects to almost any drug? Oh and that your body clenses itself in a day or two of almost anything?

That's not true at all. Let me address your statements one by one:

1) are you aware that there are no lasting side effects to almost any drug?

- A drug from a group of drugs called statins used to lower cholesterol called lovastatin not only lowers cholesterol, but has also been shown to provoke certain cancerous cells to commit apoptosis (kill themselves). That's pretty lasting.
- Dictionary.com defines drugs as "A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication." Therefore, synthetically produced GH (growth hormone) used to treat dwarfism can lead to increased muscle mass and metabolism while it's being taken, but it also leads to permanent abnormal peripheral bone growth if used to treat people who have passed puberty.
- the antibiotic tetracycline used widely in the early part of the last century killed bacteria, but one permanent side effect is that it also permanently stains teeth a permanent ugly shade of yellow and can't be completely removed.
- many studies have shown that certain psychological drugs like lsd, ecstasy, ritalin, etc. may cause permanent physiological damage to the brain and lead to neural atrophy (degeneration).
-the list goes on and on

2)your body clenses itself in a day or two of almost anything

- That may be true for many compounds, but there are MANY exceptions. The strangely folded proteins called prions that are found in cows with mad cow disease aren't living organisms. They're just really weird proteins created by mistake but once they are in your system, they induce your body to make more and are not likely to be cleansed, ever.
- Heavy metals like lead, arsenic, aluminum collect in the fat of almost all multicellular organisms and the concentration increases as you go up the food chain. In humans, things like high aluminum concentrations have been linked with alzheimer's disease.
- Whether a body is able to cleanse itself of a compound depends entirely on how fast it's coming in and how fast it's being excreted. For some things, like urea, cholesterol, CO2, etc. it's really high, but for other things like the heavy metals, it's so abysmally slow that ingesting even the tinest amounts would take the body months or years to secrete.

Disclaimer: I'm not favoring scientology here, and I'm definitely not a wacko scientologist, but I would have to agree with the notion that our society is too chemically dependent.

The drugs in psychiatry, or pretty much any other medical field, for that matter, are not very well understood. Researchers and physicians have no idea how the majority of the drugs being prescribed today work exactly mechanistically. That is why there is so much need for clinical testing as well as the fact that new uses are frequently discovered for an old drug.

Given a choice, I would avoid taking drugs for anything unless I absolutely needed it. That means no aspirin/ibuprofen for pain killing or to prevent heart attacks (ibuprofen has been recently shown to increase certain cancer rates), no antibiotics unless I'm really in trouble, etc.
 
topicolo said:
Given a choice, I would avoid taking drugs for anything unless I absolutely needed it. That means no aspirin/ibuprofen for pain killing or to prevent heart attacks (ibuprofen has been recently shown to increase certain cancer rates), no antibiotics unless I'm really in trouble, etc.

i found that surfing like a madman through macrumors cures colds, the flu, and even trigger point

i can attest to that since i am free of all of those problems

but i do have this nagging drowsy feeling all day long ;)
 
Attack of the APA...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050627/people_nm/cruise_psychiatrists_dc

"It is irresponsible for Mr. Cruise to use his movie publicity tour to promote his own ideological views and deter people with mental illness from getting the care they need," APA President Dr. Steven Sharfstein said in a statement. “Rigorous, published, peer-reviewed research clearly demonstrates that treatment (of mental illness) works," the APA statement said. "It is unfortunate that in the face of this remarkable scientific and clinical progress that a small number of individuals and groups persist in questioning its legitimacy."

As for the lasting effects of drugs. I said most, and nearly, it was obvious I don't mean every drug for every thing. Maybe people could consider huffing to be a drug, and they might be right from the temporary side effects. But it kills brain cells faster than listening to Tom Cruise rant. And those are cells I can never get back.
 
jefhatfield said:
i found that surfing like a madman through macrumors cures colds, the flu, and even trigger point

i can attest to that since i am free of all of those problems

but i do have this nagging drowsy feeling all day long ;)


Classic. Now all you need is a payscale, the necessary tax forms, and an evil alien warlord (you could use Bill Gates) and you have a religion. Oh, and an initial at the front of your name, like M. Jef Hatfield.
Congratulations!
 
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If Tom Cruise and Katie keep this up they'll be as attractive a movie couple as Beniffer.

And we all know how that'll help out the box office receipts.

Of course the college version of pin the tail of the ass will replace Jeniffer Lopez's ass with Tom Cruise's face.
 
anonymous161 said:
Classic. Now all you need is a payscale, the necessary tax forms, and an evil alien warlord (you could use Bill Gates) and you have a religion. Oh, and an initial at the front of your name, like M. Jef Hatfield.
Congratulations!
Wouldn't that be copyright infringement? ;)
 
Scientific Proof?

What's interesting about Cruise's argument is this...

He contends that medical science cannot prove the existence of chemical imbalances or demonstrate the effectiveness of drugs such as Prozac and Ritalin.

YET

He readily accepts Scientology's contention that the cause of all human unhappiness is "engrams" implanted in the human psyche 75 million years ago by an alien.
 
mac_2005 said:
What's interesting about Cruise's argument is this...

He contends that medical science cannot prove the existence of chemical imbalances or demonstrate the effectiveness of drugs such as Prozac and Ritalin.

YET

He readily accepts Scientology's contention that the cause of all human unhappiness is "engrams" implanted in the human psyche 75 million years ago by an alien.

Because it calms him down and makes him happy when he gets his audits...

Never mind the audits are essentially a flashy mood ring and the audit is completed when he is calmed down and happy...

I snap my fingers to keep away the alligators...
 
MongoTheGeek said:
Because it calms him down and makes him happy when he gets his audits...

Never mind the audits are essentially a flashy mood ring and the audit is completed when he is calmed down and happy...

I snap my fingers to keep away the alligators...

I'm reminded of the Simpsons...

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.

Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.

Homer: Thank you, dear.

Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.

Homer: Oh, how does it work?

Lisa: It doesn't work.

Homer: Uh-huh.

Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.

Homer: Uh-huh.

Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?

[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]

Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
 
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