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Tom Hanks Discusses 'Heartbreaking' Shift of WWII Film Greyhound From Theatrical Blockbuster to Apple TV+ Exclusive
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Well, you must since you took the time to respond. Comments like this on forums always crack me up. Couldn't the same be said for most of what gets posted here? Yet here we are.
Oh wow, it’s almost like..I was speaking extemporaneously, sharing my thoughts in the moment, and then..at the end of my comment...I shared my revelation that...oh, gosh, this doesn’t even matter, does it?
But I agree with you, most of this site is frivolous. I love Apple, so I enjoy reading articles about it, and reading comments about the articles. I despise the hideous nastiness of so many people on here (I can‘t understand why they subject themselves to the misery of reading and commenting on Apple news when it clearly causes them so much pain...or does it?!).
So, you can take back your condescending “comments like this on forums always crack me up” remark, save it for use elsewhere. I’m not some dense cretin who doesn’t realize how his comments may be negatively interpreted. I just like, albeit rarely, jotting down my thoughts.
The cinema is horrible place - there's no film i've enjoyed more at the cinema than at home - the strangers just make it worse. So does the noise, naff sound, rubbish projector and blurry image, the price, the crap snacks. They're going down the pan and good riddance, won't be missed by many.
Sure. But not everyone is able to afford or even care enough to buy a setup like yours. Most would just watch it on their tiny iPhone/iPad screen, over dinner, or bedtime, or poo-poo time using their AirPods and lose most of the sound detail, let alone Atmos effect.
Streaming business allows you to do just that, while the theaters ensure you watch in on a big screen in an almost meditative environment. And that’s what Hanks was complaining about.
Basic 4K HDR means crap stereo speakers too. Everybody has different setups, thus different perspective of the film. If you’re an artist producing a piece of art, you’d want everyone to enjoy it at its full glory, fullfiling a certain minimum standard. Hence his disappointment.
Indeed. This is exactly what I do.
Room design first. Equipment last.
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Theatres don't have distracting noise coming from 100 people. They're tuned to dampen any sound except for the speakers. It's why theatre are quiet when you walk into them.
That’s not how acoustics work. The dampening treatments on the walls don’t prevent you from hearing a sneeze or cough, or the guy behind you fumbling with his bag of skittles. Why do you think movies always start with some request or animation about silencing phones and being quiet during the movie? Acoustic treatments don’t magically suck up all sounds except for what’s coming from the speakers. They only dampen sound reflections off the walls, not sound directly from the source or reflected off other hard surfaces. Nor for that matter do they stop the guy in front of you from checking his phone and texting.
Found the “audiophile” with self-proclaimed golden-ears lmao.
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Hanks is angry that his film won't get the "big screen" treatment. Meanwhile, thousands are angry that their loved ones have already died, as a result of public exposure (such as attending big screen theaters, crowded beaches, etc)
Yes and that's why theaters are so quiet. The dampening removes all reflected sounds. The only sound left are the ones coming from the source, which have an inverse square log effect on their loudness.
And yet still doesn’t solve the problems of hearing people people behind or in front of you whispering or eating, or someone three rows from you coughing, sneezing, phone ringing, etc. You give theaters far too much credit for what they actually are. Well treated no doubt, but the treatments don’t remove even close to all reflected sounds from the room, nor those from the source, which you continue to ignore as an issue. What you’re talking about is an anechoic chamber, which a theater is not, nor is it really possible considering practical constraints. You’re still going to get reflections off a myriad of other surfaces: metal railings, lights, plastic seat backs, people, etc.
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The distance between my house and the impolite people in the theater completely dampens their noise. I'll keep watching at home, where the popcorn costs pennies and the rental is just a few bucks.
I don't understand why he didn't just wait. Do what Marvel is doing....wait.
Some entertainment companies are acting like its now or never for putting out content people will see in the theaters. Not to sound insensitive but there will be life post covid19.
Some entertainment companies are acting like its now or never for putting out content people will see in the theaters. Not to sound insensitive but there will be life post covid19.
Good movies work on every screen...
it is interesting that Apple TV+ has a say in the background of the interview. Meaning that they didn't only bought the rights, but also do all the PR of the movie. They only want to show movies, if they have control over the marketing/PR and promotion of it.
it is interesting that Apple TV+ has a say in the background of the interview. Meaning that they didn't only bought the rights, but also do all the PR of the movie. They only want to show movies, if they have control over the marketing/PR and promotion of it.
I would rather watch at home on my S__S___ 65 sized curved TV with Bose 5.1 surround sound streaming 4K (at 90+ Mbps stream rate) via my Apple TV in front of my warm fire on a cold winter night, eating a pizza that costs the price of a bucket of popcorn while stretched out on my comfy sofa minus the presence of strangers and cinema advertising.
Why is Apple supposedly the bad guy? Hamilton just came out this weekend. Fantastic. Now, they could have held off, waited until next year for a big theatrical screening. But they chose to take the Disney Plus deal. Their perspective is, they have lots of money. They want everybody to have a chance to watch it. Here, Apple outbid everybody else to get a Hollywood release with Tom Hanks. That means there were no theater deals available. Well, you won't lose money, Tom.
Well, what can I say? If that's your experience, I'm sorry you have such crap cinemas and terrible people where you live. My experience, a few exceptions aside, is pretty much the opposite.
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Oh wow, it’s almost like..I was speaking extemporaneously, sharing my thoughts in the moment, and then..at the end of my comment...I shared my revelation that...oh, gosh, this doesn’t even matter, does it?
But I agree with you, most of this site is frivolous. I love Apple, so I enjoy reading articles about it, and reading comments about the articles. I despise the hideous nastiness of so many people on here (I can‘t understand why they subject themselves to the misery of reading and commenting on Apple news when it clearly causes them so much pain...or does it?!).
So, you can take back your condescending “comments like this on forums always crack me up” remark, save it for use elsewhere. I’m not some dense cretin who doesn’t realize how his comments may be negatively interpreted. I just like, albeit rarely, jotting down my thoughts.
No need to explain yourself. And no need for me to take my comment back either.
But then I'd have to support that things are falling down and not up because of gravity as well. Everyone knows. And similarly, what you say would only work if you (your eyes and brain) have no external point of reference to deduct viewing distance to the screen. You always have, because the screen is illuminating part of the room and frame, which in turn gives you a reference of distance to the screen and therefore screen size. Here's a good start (you can find more with the search function): https://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-screens/3087028-bigger-screen-vs-sitting-closer.html. There are also peer-reviewed scientific publications available. I'll leave searching for those to you and others interested in it (be warned, you'll most likely have to pay to access those).
No worries, we're looking for something different. I'm looking for the best movie experience with the highest quality audio and video. You're looking for a social experience, watching a movie with strangers.
Sorry, that is wrong. Dampening should not remove all reflected sound. That would be the equivalent of sitting in a anechoic chamber. You do not want this, it sound's horrible. Anechoic chambers are for measuring performance of a speaker without the influence of the room. Another option would be to perform near field measurements with NF scanner systems (https://www.klippel.de/products/rd-system/modules/nfs-near-field-scanner.html). What you want is a mix of direct, reflected sound and a reverberation time (RT60, -60dB or 1/1,000,000 of it's original energy) that is within the recommended limit for the room size. Rule of thumb, first reflections within 30ms are perceived as direct sound, everything above as coming from the room. Here's the recommendation from JBL for their cinema systems:
That is why rooms are simulated with the speaker model that is used and then room treatment is adjusted, usually a mix of diffusors and reflectors, depending on the energy distribution and seating positions in the room. If you look at the Keith Yates theater I liked to in an earlyer post, you can see that part of the design was acoustic coverage. Here's another video what's usually done:
Indeed. At theaters basically everyone gets the same full experience. Also you cant really compare home cinema to the real thing. I too am a nerd with a 65 inch HDR OLED + proper sound and its great. But, I have seen things. I have seen Mad Max. I have seen Avatar in 3D and c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. On gigantic movie screens. It still rocks your world like no TV can.
As long as you don't mind the additional 50db noise floor of the cars traveling near your house and other noises nearby that your house doesn't dampen but theaters do.
